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12-18-2008, 03:59 PM | #1 | |
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67 mpg Honda Fit Hybrid due in 2010
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12-18-2008, 04:45 PM | #2 |
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Awe-some.
I love the Fit and having one to get that good of mileage for hopefully $18k would be an awesome DD. ~~Quentin |
12-18-2008, 04:49 PM | #3 |
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isn't the new insight supposed to come in under $20k?
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12-18-2008, 05:31 PM | #6 |
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But the Insight is built on the Fit platform, modified to be an inch wider and 3" longer.
I have to think that the Insight will be positioned as the "image" hybrid while the Fit Hybrid would hit the "utility" market. But then I've also seen reports that the Fit Hybrid is not destined to come to the US, because Honda's sales figures for the Accord and Civic Hybrids shows that US consumers want hybrids to be "distinctively styled." Personally a Fit Hybrid (magic seats, tall roof, big cargo area, etc) is what I really want, but I'll settle for an Insight. I can't wait yet another year to replace the ol' Forester... |
12-18-2008, 05:51 PM | #7 |
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Yup, that's why the Prius did so much better than the Civic hybrid. Its all about image ...
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12-18-2008, 05:54 PM | #8 |
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But I thought the new 35 MPG CAFE standards were impossible to meet!?!?!?!
What kind of magic or trickery is Honda using to get those numbers??? Here is a sub $20k that DOUBLES that new CAFE standard - standards that are still years and years away. Last edited by Hazdaz; 12-18-2008 at 06:01 PM. |
12-18-2008, 06:29 PM | #9 | |
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A lot of people assume Fits are hybrids already, or that they get astronomical gas mileage because of their small size. A trim that gets more than double the mileage of the current one for a few grand more is awful tempting, even though I'm still not a fan of the GE. -Mike |
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More bad news for the Prius if this car makes it to the US. I wonder what Toyota is planning to fight the these 2 Hondas?
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12-18-2008, 11:07 PM | #11 |
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A buddy of mine has one and doesn't get great gas mileage. I'm sure it doesn't help that he floors it all the time because it has no power though.
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If only honda also put the si engine in the fit.................
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12-19-2008, 03:33 AM | #13 |
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I think the Fit could definitely use more power, but I think 200hp stock is too much for a car like this. I think around 150hp sounds right (similar to the 00-era Si B16A2s), which would be just over a 20% power increase over the 09. This would make the Fit Sport a lot more appealing to people instead of it being mainly an aesthetic/creature comfort upgrade. -Mike |
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12-19-2008, 11:48 AM | #17 | |
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The Fit isn't even 150lbs lighter than a Civic... and the Civic Si is fairly slow by today's standards. 200hp in the Fit would be very, very far from 'too much'.
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The 5spd Fit is rated at the same highway mpg as the 5spd Civic (28/34 mpg vs 26/34 mpg).. and the Civic Si is rated at 21/29. At best I would expect a Fit Si to be rated at 24/32. Being tiny actually hurts aerodynamics on the highway. |
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You must have missed the hybrid part. Sounds like a sweet idea to me.
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fit hybrid makes pretty damn good sense to me. it will sell well.
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As long as it is not much slower than the current Fit, highway passing takes too damn much effort. Current Fit's MPG is just ok (we get about 30mpg mixed), otherwise my wife and I both love it.
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I'd love to see a Fit Si with the 160hp K20 from the RSX/last-gen Si, a distinctive body kit/wheels, and sport suspension. |
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12-19-2008, 02:44 PM | #23 | |
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Beaverboy: true if comparing the non-Si trims, but the Civic Si is about 500 lbs heavier than a Fit. IIRC, I think a K20 would only add about ~100 lbs over the L15A. Power to weight would be close to STI/Evo territory if my Friday afternoon mind math is working correctly. OK, fine, I'll admit it... this would be cool!
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Are you getting this, Honda? I will swear on a stack of holy books, if you bring a 160+ HP Fit and keep it light and nimble, you have a buyer.
Oh, and considering the torque characteristics of electric motors, a fit hybrid *could* be more entertaining than the current iteration... |
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Figure the electric motor is going to add anywhere up to an extra 150 ft*lbs in the low rev range. I suspect it'll be quite engaging enough to drive at up to 60mph or so. As for how they doubled the mileage, it's almost guaranteed this is on the Japanese 10-15 test cycle, which is very gentle. Say, mid-40's EPA08-highway? The 5-sp Fit gets lousy highway mileage because of the gearing. For some unfathomable reason Honda made the gearing even shorter in the redesign. Last edited by Chromer; 12-19-2008 at 03:48 PM. |
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