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Old 09-04-2019, 06:58 AM   #1
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Default Fiat Is Killing the 500 Minicar in the U.S.

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Fiat has announced the death of the iconic 500 minicar in the U.S..
The regular 500, convertible 500C, electric 500e, and hot-rod 500 Abarth are all finished after the 2019 model year.

The 500L station wagon, 500X crossover, and 124 Spider sports car all remain in the lineup.

Fiat's spunky 500 minicar—including electric, convertible, and Abarth variants—will not continue on in the North American market for the 2020 model year. Fiat Chrysler unceremoniously announced the death of the brand's iconic two-door model in a 68-word press release.

The revived 500 burst onto the scene in 2007 and is credited with Fiat's resurgence in Europe. It also helped re-launch the Italian marque in North America in 2011 as a 2012 model. It failed to catch on with American consumers despite its fuel-efficient powertrain, too-cute looks, and European novelty. Sales reached a high of 43,772 units in the U.S. in 2012, but fell steeply after that. In recent years, FCA has offered big rebates, slashed the price, and revamped the lineup, but these attempts at gaining traction haven't worked, as FCA only sold 5370 units in all of 2018 and only moved 1692 cars through the first half of 2019.

Despite the fact that the rest of Fiat's lineup is selling even worse than the 500, the maligned 500L station wagon soldiers on for another model year, as does the Jeep Renegade-based 500X crossover and the Mazda Miata-clone 124 Spider.

A facelifted 500 launched in Europe in 2016 but few of that model's improvements made it stateside. The company's reluctance to invest in the North American model should have been our first clue to its impending demise. A full redesign of the car is due shortly and is said to be offered only as an electric car, but it's unclear at this time if FCA plans to bring the next-generation model to our shores.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:29 AM   #2
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It was dead before it got here.

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Old 09-04-2019, 11:18 AM   #3
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So, a 12 year old car that initially sold really well, but has received basically ZERO updates over those 12 years isn't selling well? Refusing to bring over the updates made 3 years ago. And they use those sales numbers to justify axing it?

I'll repeat this again, US Executives have a plan, and it's not consumer choice.

They find a way to kill what they don't like, and execute. Want a manual transmission? Sure, we made 4 of them, all in base model form, and they're located on the moon. Want a cute european style car? Here, buy this one that we haven't changed since 2007. Oh, you don't WANT that car? Well then we'll just stop making it. it was all your fault to begin with.
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Old 09-04-2019, 12:56 PM   #4
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I just looked at the largest Fiat dealer in Colorado. They have 19 Fiats in stock and 7 are 2018 models. 12 of the models are of the regular 500 models. I'm not sure where Fiat is going or if they last for much longer.
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Old 09-04-2019, 01:06 PM   #5
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Fiat's business model is reflected in their sales.
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Old 09-04-2019, 03:03 PM   #6
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Yeah I was going to say they killed it the moment they put the plans in motion to build them.
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:25 AM   #7
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I hope that they can put some effort into Alfa with this restructure. I have to think they are doing better (although same supply issues) with their models.

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I don't see how FCA has the resources to keep the Fiat, Alfa, and Maserati brands going in the US. One or more will drop out in the next 2 to 5 years.
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US Executives have a plan, and it's not consumer choice.

They find a way to kill what they don't like, and execute. Want a manual transmission? Sure, we made 4 of them, all in base model form, and they're located on the moon. Want a cute european style car? Here, buy this one that we haven't changed since 2007. Oh, you don't WANT that car? Well then we'll just stop making it. it was all your fault to begin with.
Hahaha, pretty much sums up my same feelings on the subject.
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One sub compact and one sports car do not make a line up.

Fiat could have succeeded, if they had tried.
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:20 PM   #11
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One sub compact and one sports car do not make a line up.

Fiat could have succeeded, if they had tried.
They should have brought their Tipo over. Although it'd need a little more than the 120 HP that it comes with...

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its returning to USA

As you already know, Fiat has big plans for Europe starting in 2020. The Geneva Motor Show is where the all-new 500e will be unveiled, described as “dolce vita in an electric car” by chief marketing officer Olivier Francois.

The EV has been spied recently undergoing testing in Germany, clad in camouflage but different from the outgoing model. The front and rear bumpers appear to hide a few changes to the exterior design, and as you can tell from the photo gallery, the charging port is where the fuel filler cap is on the ICE-only models with the 0.9-liter TwinAir and 1.2-liter Fire engines.

A radiator can also be seen in the case of one of a total of three prototypes, but what has made us extremely curious is the cockpit. Down the center console, there’s a Jaguar-style rotary gear selector with a few buttons scattered around it. The ones that caught our attention are the 4WD High and 4WD Auto, which suggests that Fiat might be developing an all-wheel-drive system or a dual-motor setup.



On the other hand, the auto start/stop button certainly doesn’t belong there. In all likelihood, those buttons aren’t connected to anything hiding under the skin of the Cinquecento. The instrument cluster, central infotainment system, and the steering wheel also differ from the current-get 500 and 500e twins.

The all-electric city dweller is confirmed to start production in 2020 at the Mirafiori plant in Italy, and Fiat plans to build as many as 80,000 examples of the breed every year to satisfy demand. Fiat Chrysler has also announced an investment of $5.4 billion in electric-vehicle manufacturing in Michigan, meaning that the 500e will return to the U.S. of A. for the 2021 model year.

A model called 500 Giardiniera will join the lineup right after the redesigned 500, and the Panda is also scheduled to undergo a top-to-bottom redesign. The 500X is scheduled to get a replacement as well, and as far as the Tipo is concerned, Fiat may replace the economy model with a crossover.




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