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Old 04-10-2018, 09:41 AM   #51
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That is a hell of a good looking hatch. well done ford. My gosh the tech available in even base model cars is dizzying.

If their really is more room inside and they gave it to the back seats, an ST version may give the GTI some competition. Good job Ford.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:35 AM   #52
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Yeah Ford nailed it. It looks like they copied some Mazda design (inside and out) but I am fine with that as this is probably the best looking hatch to me now.

Curious to see what they do with the ST variant.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:02 AM   #53
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I like that the dash does not appear to be so enormous this go round. Can't wait to see the RS version.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:52 AM   #54
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Oooh me likey. Maybe an ST or RS will be in my future if the next WRX/STI is garbage.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:10 PM   #55
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Yup looks like a Euro Mazda, which I love.

The headlight capsules are massive but the LEDs shrink them. Looks almost McLaren-like.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:52 PM   #56
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If you look into the new focus, the wagon looks amazing.



WE need this ford!
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:10 AM   #57
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Yeah Ford nailed it. It looks like they copied some Mazda design (inside and out) but I am fine with that as this is probably the best looking hatch to me now.

Curious to see what they do with the ST variant.


Here the Rs 4ya 2 lol

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Old 04-11-2018, 09:02 AM   #58
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RS wagon please; or hatch, but I'd prefer the wagon.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:09 AM   #59
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The dash/center stack looks much improved. Hopefully the interior quality is a step up from the previous generation as well.
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Old 04-12-2018, 03:55 AM   #60
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I hope this supposed dual-clutch trans is better than the catastrophic failure they put in the Fiesta.


That tranny was made in China.
The new Focus will be made in China.

...what could go wrong?
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:38 AM   #61
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That tranny was made in China.
The new Focus will be made in China.

...what could go wrong?
Made in China? oooh hard pass; DCT only would be a hard pass, regardless of country of origin, but the article reads like the 6mt will still be offered. Time will tell.
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:27 AM   #62
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That tranny was made in China.
The new Focus will be made in China.

...what could go wrong?
I'm pretty sure the PowerShift transmission was manufactured in Mexico.
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:32 AM   #63
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I think Ford have to go DCT to reach the performance numbers they want. They targeted a 4 second 0-60 with the last car, and the 1-2 shift really kills them in a manual. With an automated gearbox they can do more to optimize launch control and clutch engagement to balance power delivery and avoid wheel slip that's going to slow them down. Then the lightning fast 1-2 shift will save a tenth or two.

All things considered, the DCT likely won't be bad. They did benchmark the PDK in a 991 GT3 while developing the GT, to learn how to make a proper DCT. That was nearly 3 years ago.
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That tranny was made in China.
The new Focus will be made in China.

...what could go wrong?
Why, why you do this Ford? On second thought, I think I know how that decision was made too.


Made in China? No thank.
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Damn the Mazda looks good. Where is the Mazdaspeed 3 with AWD! I really like their cars. The engines and interiors are great.
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:39 PM   #67
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That tranny was made in China.
The new Focus will be made in China.

...what could go wrong?
Yeah, regardless of where it is made I don't want a Ford DCT in my sports car. They should just use the co-devloped 10 speed.

But I would buy the manual anyway so no matter to me.

I read an article that said the new Focus will be produced in China but that some production will shift to Europe as well. So hopefully the ST/RS will be built there, but at this point I am not sure I care if a car is built in Mexico or China or Hungary as long as they are built well.
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Good looking, hopefully the back seat is more usable this time.
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Next-Gen Ford Focus RS Will Bring The Heat On The Hot Hatch Segment

While the all-new Ford Focus was revealed just a few days ago, rendering artists have already come up with what the next Focus RS might look like.
Things look mighty familiar all around, and thatís because Kleber Silva imagined the hot hatch with some of the styling influences of its predecessor. We wouldnít be surprised if most of these will make their way onto the car, along with the roof-mounted wing that is supposed to provide some needed downforce.

Next Ford Focus RS is some three years away

Expected to premiere in 2020, as per a recent report, the future Focus RS will build upon the fourth-generation hatchback, to which it will allegedly add a 48V mild hybrid tech. The turboíd 2.3-liter four-cylinder petrol engine of the current car is believed to be maintained, albeit with a few updates of its own, for a total of 400hp and 576Nm (425lb-ft) of torque.

In addition to the 2021 Ford Focus RS, the digital artist sketched the five-door estate version of the new Focus in the potent trim, with the beefed up body kit, and decided to apply the same treatment to the sedan, too. Now, these are obviously just for kicks, and just in case some of you were wondering what the new compact car would look like as a three-door coupe or a cabriolet, then the renderings below will answer your question.


https://www.carscoops.com/2018/04/ne...h-segment/amp/
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Good looking, hopefully the back seat is more usable this time.
The current RS is more like a 3dr hatch with rear doors for access. I like this very much because the car foot print is smaller. Itís not a large car, and being smaller it has a dramatic effect on handling. Driving it, it feels a few hundred pounds lighter than it is. The rear seats are useable unless you are six feet and some change necessitating moving the drivers seat, seat pan, all the way back. If someone needs to sit behind me, I have to move the seat up and be slightly uncomfortable. Fine for a local drive but 30 minutes or more, nope. 6í or less in the drivers seat, and the rear seats are definitely useable.

I like this though as my favorite body config is a 3 door hatch. VW, was I think the last company to offer a hatchback with 3 doors. Damn shame everything has to be designed for children. Iím surprised the Camaro and Mustang havenít been forced into saloons.
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Next-Gen Ford Focus RS Will Bring The Heat On The Hot Hatch Segment

While the all-new Ford Focus was revealed just a few days ago, rendering artists have already come up with what the next Focus RS might look like.
Things look mighty familiar all around, and thatís because Kleber Silva imagined the hot hatch with some of the styling influences of its predecessor. We wouldnít be surprised if most of these will make their way onto the car, along with the roof-mounted wing that is supposed to provide some needed downforce.

Next Ford Focus RS is some three years away

Expected to premiere in 2020, as per a recent report, the future Focus RS will build upon the fourth-generation hatchback, to which it will allegedly add a 48V mild hybrid tech. The turboíd 2.3-liter four-cylinder petrol engine of the current car is believed to be maintained, albeit with a few updates of its own, for a total of 400hp and 576Nm (425lb-ft) of torque.

In addition to the 2021 Ford Focus RS, the digital artist sketched the five-door estate version of the new Focus in the potent trim, with the beefed up body kit, and decided to apply the same treatment to the sedan, too. Now, these are obviously just for kicks, and just in case some of you were wondering what the new compact car would look like as a three-door coupe or a cabriolet, then the renderings below will answer your question.


https://www.carscoops.com/2018/04/ne...h-segment/amp/
If this car is built in Europe or the U.S. it will likely wind up in my drive way. If it's built in China, no chance. Might just be a good excuse to get into a Tesla.
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Yep the 650 Robots in the Fordís Hangzhou factory are terrible Compared to the Robots in Mexico. Volvos are junk now too. Everybody notices how inferior the CT6 hybrid is compared to the regular Ct6. China uses more automation making higher quality product then North Amierica..
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:43 AM   #73
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Yep the 650 Robots in the Fordís Hangzhou factory are terrible Compared to the Robots in Mexico. Volvos are junk now too. Everybody notices how inferior the CT6 hybrid is compared to the regular Ct6. China uses more automation making higher quality product then North Amierica..
You're free to buy it when it hits our shores. I don't think you will though.
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Yeah, regardless of where it is made I don't want a Ford DCT in my sports car. They should just use the co-devloped 10 speed.

But I would buy the manual anyway so no matter to me.

I read an article that said the new Focus will be produced in China but that some production will shift to Europe as well. So hopefully the ST/RS will be built there, but at this point I am not sure I care if a car is built in Mexico or China or Hungary as long as they are built well.
I highly doubt that 10 speed tranny is going to fit a transverse layout.
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