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Old 04-17-2020, 02:26 AM   #451
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Strongly considering picking up this kit and have one question:

I am running a rotated Precision 6062. Because this turbo is oil-cooled and the cylinder 3 port is plugged now, would cylinder 3 now theoretically be running at a higher temp just like cylinder 4?

This is where my ignorance shines through. I lack the knowledge on how the coolant loop now functions when cylinder 3 is plugged due to an oil-cooled turbo. If this area is now at a reduced flow like cylinder 4, I am wondering what the fix would be for cylinder 3.

Appreciate any help on this and apologies for my lack of knowledge on this particular subject.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:48 AM   #452
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The real question is how can they prove the parts you put on caused the failure. And is it legitimate.
Like Car_freak85 said earlier, MMA only covers direct replacement parts. So unless it is a direct replacement, they donít have to. In this situation, regardless how great the part is, you are adding an aftermarket part and altering what is the original design of the engine. Which is why I am wondering if anyone happens to know of any conversation off the record.
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Old 04-17-2020, 06:48 AM   #453
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Like Car_freak85 said earlier, MMA only covers direct replacement parts. So unless it is a direct replacement, they donít have to. In this situation, regardless how great the part is, you are adding an aftermarket part and altering what is the original design of the engine. Which is why I am wondering if anyone happens to know of any conversation off the record.
It really depends on the dealership. A long time ago my car needed a wheel bearing. And it was still under warranty. But the car had 500whp. They could've easily said the added power strained it. But they replaced it and told me dude your car is awesome!
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Old 04-17-2020, 03:14 PM   #454
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Like Car_freak85 said earlier, MMA only covers direct replacement parts. So unless it is a direct replacement, they don’t have to. In this situation, regardless how great the part is, you are adding an aftermarket part and altering what is the original design of the engine. Which is why I am wondering if anyone happens to know of any conversation off the record.
Bingo. You'd have to know the Japanese engineer who designed the twin-turbo EJ engine's cooling circuit to really know the inside scoop (the theory being Dom modeled his part on the cooling circuit nipple present on these TT engines). Maybe @teshimades, the styling designer of the original Impreza, could give us the powertrain engineer's contact information so we could get the final word on all of this?

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It really depends on the dealership.
Partly on the dealer's reporting to the mothership, but the final say lies with the OEM. On a piddling warranty request like a wheel bearing, yeah, probably not a big deal and it'll get pencil whipped. But this cooling mod doesn't mount to a low-buck assembly like the spindle. Anything funny about a dusted engine under warranty is going to draw the Eye of Sauron before the mothership cuts a check to the dealership for the warranty repair.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:15 PM   #455
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/\ Only applies to direct replacement parts like tires, brake pads, piston rings, etc., not hot rodding parts. If you knowingly modify an assembly using parts that were never installed in the first place, that is what voids your warranty.
Not how I remember it, but in all honesty I haven't reviewed that document in probably over 10 years. Sounds like I need to review.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:27 PM   #456
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Basically you can use whatever brand of air filter you prefer, any oil that is the correct grade, silicone wiper blades, etc. <-- It would be on them to prove a like-for-like part caused the failure.

What you can't do is install a Spoolinator turbo kit under warranty and expect Subaru to cover your ring lands. <--Not hard to prove you intentionally modified the warranted assembly with the intent to alter it from its intended design/purpose/whathaveyou, regardless if the part/modification actually caused the failure.

Maintenance is protected under the MMA, hotrodding is not.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:23 PM   #457
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Bingo. You'd have to know the Japanese engineer who designed the twin-turbo EJ engine's cooling circuit to really know the inside scoop (the theory being Dom modeled his part on the cooling circuit nipple present on these TT engines). Maybe @teshimades, the styling designer of the original Impreza, could give us the powertrain engineer's contact information so we could get the final word on all of this?



Partly on the dealer's reporting to the mothership, but the final say lies with the OEM. On a piddling warranty request like a wheel bearing, yeah, probably not a big deal and it'll get pencil whipped. But this cooling mod doesn't mount to a low-buck assembly like the spindle. Anything funny about a dusted engine under warranty is going to draw the Eye of Sauron before the mothership cuts a check to the dealership for the warranty repair.
I can understand if the car came in with no coolant in it. Or a blockage in the added part. But I really don't see them glancing at that and saying nope take it out of here.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:07 PM   #458
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I can understand if the car came in with no coolant in it. Or a blockage in the added part. But I really don't see them glancing at that and saying nope take it out of here.
If we are talking about a $200 repair, maybe not. If we are talking about a >$2,000 repair bill, you can almost certainly bet that they will.
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Old 04-17-2020, 11:37 PM   #459
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If we are talking about a $200 repair, maybe not. If we are talking about a >$2,000 repair bill, you can almost certainly bet that they will.
Idk I bought my car from dealer and it's never been back **** them they're crooks. Even if they do a warranty job on a full engine rebuild they will most likely do a **** job granted it depends on the tech and how he takes pride in his work. But it'll also come down to what the dealers willing to replace. If it's worn out but in spec you better believe they will use it. Me on the other hand no. If I can afford it it's getting replaced if not cars sitting while I daily my nice comfy ua6 Acura lol and I'll still walk all over a wrx on the highway with that to boot!
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Old 05-19-2020, 10:07 PM   #460
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Strongly considering picking up this kit and have one question:



I am running a rotated Precision 6062. Because this turbo is oil-cooled and the cylinder 3 port is plugged now, would cylinder 3 now theoretically be running at a higher temp just like cylinder 4?



This is where my ignorance shines through. I lack the knowledge on how the coolant loop now functions when cylinder 3 is plugged due to an oil-cooled turbo. If this area is now at a reduced flow like cylinder 4, I am wondering what the fix would be for cylinder 3.



Appreciate any help on this and apologies for my lack of knowledge on this particular subject.


Iíd be really curious about this as well.
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