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Old 11-19-2020, 05:16 PM   #276
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I dig it, but not sure I could live it as a daily, even being childless.

It's definitely a step in the right direction though. Hopefully they can bring it in under $30k.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:18 PM   #277
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The possibility of sitting someone in the backseat is the major reason why one would pick a 2+2 BRZ over an even more sport focused two seater.

Nobody is going to daily drive their kid around in a BRZ, but being and to do it in a pinch is a huge plus. Otherwise I'd just buy a Supra, Corvette, Miata, or some other two seat option.
This is what allowed me to have one for the longest time. I'm not even 5' 8", so a small person could sit behind me even if I was in a casual seating position. If I moved my seat up then a taller person could fit behind me.

Most of the people I drove around were smaller, so it wasn't a huge deal.
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Track tires, wheels and a jack.

They said also a bike w/ one wheel off.
I have a pic somewhere of my BRZ with a bike in it. And also another pic of it full of Costco groceries, along with two other passengers.
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Old 11-19-2020, 06:17 PM   #278
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Road bike fits inside pretty easily. Mountain bike depends on the bike.
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Old 11-19-2020, 06:39 PM   #279
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I need to be able to fit a guitar and amp in it. It is part of why Iíd pick it over a Miata.
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Old 11-19-2020, 06:46 PM   #280
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Track tires, wheels and a jack.
Did that several times with mine. IMO thats the huge selling point over the Miata, you can actually haul stuff with it and use it every day.
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Old 11-19-2020, 07:31 PM   #281
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Road bike fits inside pretty easily. Mountain bike depends on the bike.
Just buy a trailer hitch and rack. So much easier and with mountain bikes you're not loading potentially wet and muddy bikes into the back of the car...
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:04 PM   #282
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Just buy a trailer hitch and rack. So much easier and with mountain bikes you're not loading potentially wet and muddy bikes into the back of the car...

I had the tow hook + 1up tray to carry a bike on my FR-S. I was just confirming that it was possible.


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Old 11-20-2020, 12:00 AM   #283
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This is what allowed me to have one for the longest time. I'm not even 5' 8", so a small person could sit behind me even if I was in a casual seating position. If I moved my seat up then a taller person could fit behind me.
I'm 5'6 on a good day. For all the **** we get and have to deal with for being short (not being able to reach things, people blocking our view at concerts and movie theaters, etc.), it is nice to be able to fit in the driver's seat just about any single car and not have to worry about the seat being too small.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:45 AM   #284
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I'm 5'6 on a good day. For all the **** we get and have to deal with for being short (not being able to reach things, people blocking our view at concerts and movie theaters, etc.), it is nice to be able to fit in the driver's seat just about any single car and not have to worry about the seat being too small.
That's the thing about the BRZ/86 I was telling a tall friend. He's 1" taller than me, I'm 6'2". That 86 drivers seat fits me like a glove. It's comfortable for ze tall man too. I couldn't believe it when I got in it the first time 6-7 years ago. I was so surprised how unlike the S2000 (owned an AP2) it was. Outstanding driving position and great for tall folks.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:36 AM   #285
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I had the tow hook + 1up tray to carry a bike on my FR-S. I was just confirming that it was possible.
Even with the rack it's great to have the option to bring it into the car in case you're driving a bit longer distance and know there will be foul weather.
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:51 AM   #286
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something I didn't notice until just now....

the hill start assist light.

I wonder if they have it on by default in the new BRZ, or if it was just enabled on their testers?
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:06 PM   #287
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Was it the other way around? It lights up while deactivated..? Not sure, but I never use that feature. It is annoying for avid MT drivers like me.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #288
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Was it the other way around? It lights up while deactivated..? Not sure, but I never use that feature. It is annoying for avid MT drivers like me.
On my STi it never lights up when active. I am assuming that if it has the light then its equipped with it though.

Definitely not a selling feature to me. I personally am annoyed by it as well. Its holds the car back when you take off quickly.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:24 PM   #289
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On my STi it never lights up when active. I am assuming that if it has the light then its equipped with it though.

Definitely not a selling feature to me. I personally am annoyed by it as well. Its holds the car back when you take off quickly.
Cool, thanks for confirming. I completely agree on it being very annoying.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:48 PM   #290
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Cool, thanks for confirming. I completely agree on it being very annoying.
After having it on multiple manual WRX/STI, it eventually stopped being that bad. I realized that if you don't press down hard on the brake pedal at a fairly flat location the car wouldn't engage hill holder and I could still rock, or roll back if I wanted.

However, in the snow on a steep incline, HH def helps to save your clutch.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:00 PM   #291
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After having it on multiple manual WRX/STI, it eventually stopped being that bad. I realized that if you don't press down hard on the brake pedal at a fairly flat location the car wouldn't engage hill holder and I could still rock, or roll back if I wanted.

However, in the snow on a steep incline, HH def helps to save your clutch.
Good to hear you found a trick to use hill assist. I'm not sure how hill assist can save the clutch in a half-clutch crawl up a bumpy situation since you are already intentionally slipping your clutch, but if that helps your driving definitely use it.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:26 PM   #292
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Even with the rack it's great to have the option to bring it into the car in case you're driving a bit longer distance and know there will be foul weather.

Yea, if I was traveling somewhere that bike theft was a concern or doing a really long drive, Iíd toss the bike into the car.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:44 PM   #293
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I've never seen the light on my BRZ, I thought I remember that the 'feature' was off by default, and you could get the dealer to turn it on, if you wanted.

on the WRX it annoyed me at first, didn't notice it after a while, and it never annoyed me enough to ask them to turn it off.

when I got the BRZ I noticed it didn't have it, don't miss it at all.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:46 PM   #294
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HH for me in an MT car is the handbrake; I hate HH systems. I also hate E-parking brakes; glad to see the BRZ is keeping a handbrake.
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:49 PM   #295
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HH for me in an MT car is the handbrake; I hate HH systems. I also hate E-parking brakes; glad to see the BRZ is keeping a handbrake.
Agreed on all points.

I hate the e-parking brake on my Golf-R. I don't even use it while parking on flat surface, like in my garage or gas stations, as they are notorious for seizing up on their own.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:10 PM   #296
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I had the tow hook + 1up tray to carry a bike on my FR-S. I was just confirming that it was possible.
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Even with the rack it's great to have the option to bring it into the car in case you're driving a bit longer distance and know there will be foul weather.
Good to know it's possible for those who just need it very occasionally I guess. I'm a year-round mountain biker and I don't care about foul weather... heck, rain on the way home helps clean the mud off...
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:13 PM   #297
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Subaru's HH was quite intrusive in my old wrx. Although I learned how to disengage it pretty quickly.

The Golf R supposedly had it, but I don't think I ever noticed it. It would roll back on a hill, although perhaps at a slower rate than if I just let off the brake without being on the clutch?

I don't care about the electronic parking brake in most cars. This is one that I think deserves a true hand brake though.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:19 PM   #298
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My Mk7 Golf-R has hill assist. It will roll forward or back if I lightly applied the brakes to come to a stop. But it will not roll if I firmly pressed on the brake to come to a full stop. It holds the last brake pressure applied.

I tried it a few times, it's a better program than Subaru's, but I still don't use it. I like neutral to be 100% neutral. Plus the car tells me via parking sensors that she's rolling if I intentionally let go of the brake pedal lightly enough for the car to roll in neutral.
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Old 11-20-2020, 02:38 PM   #299
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My Mk7 Golf-R has hill assist. It will roll forward or back if I lightly applied the brakes to come to a stop. But it will not roll if I firmly pressed on the brake to come to a full stop. It holds the last brake pressure applied.

I tried it a few times, it's a better program than Subaru's, but I still don't use it. I like neutral to be 100% neutral. Plus the car tells me via parking sensors that she's rolling if I intentionally let go of the brake pedal lightly enough for the car to roll in neutral.
I don't think my MK7.5 had it to be honest. I would let off the brake and the car would roll backwards. It definitely did not hold the last brake pressure applied. I turned off the automatic parking sensors for that exact reason... They still trigger on when you put the car in reverse, just not when you roll back on a hill. I wonder if that was a MK7.5 change - they tweaked a bunch of minor things, like how the TCS button functioned.
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Nice choice in rack



Good to know it's possible for those who just need it very occasionally I guess. I'm a year-round mountain biker and I don't care about foul weather... heck, rain on the way home helps clean the mud off...

1up is great. After I no longer needed the tray for my FR-S, I converted it to a hitch carrier for my 4Runner. Eventually, I added two more trays so I could get bikes for the whole family on the hitch or run just a single for when I only had one of my bikes. The single is great because I can get into the cargo area without tumbling the unloaded tray away (which I couldnít do with my old Thule). Plus, this stuff is so well built I donít expect Iíll ever need to buy another hitch carrier.


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