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Old 02-07-2011, 11:08 AM   #76
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Awesome install! Now, I just have to find some fog light installs for an 09 STI...japanparts doesn't have the assembly.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:29 PM   #77
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Looks like Japan Parts has the two trim pieces if you dont want to cut for that OEM look

Part: 317-055-001

Subaru: 57731G/57731H COVER, REAR BUMPER
Price is for one side so please choose it for RH(57731G) or LH(57731G)

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Old 03-27-2011, 09:27 PM   #78
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Just to add this in here. The way to get the stalk that works right for our cars (LHD) is from Germany or the other Euro areas that have LHD. JDM stalk doesn't work since it will be on the wrong side. I think I have found the combination switch and it is around 280USD. This way, we will have the front and rear fog switches the way it is supposed to be. BUT, you will still need to make your own wiring and relay assembly.
So, the Body Integrated Unit (BIU)...the computer that controls your lights, indications, etc...has a setting for "Rear Fog SW Input" that is set to off on the USDM cars. I have yet to get a straight answer from a Subaru tech as to whether it can be enabled on our cars. If so, then you should be able to use an EDM wiring diagram to finish the wiring. If anyone knows the answer to this question, please let me know.

I've been working on putting a rear fog on my 09 hatch, but I REALLY want to use the OEM switch, so I've been waiting to install until I can get a clear picture of whether or not I can use it.

I got my switch off of eBay, seller was from Latvia. My LHD lamp came from Israel.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:40 PM   #79
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I have a friend who has set up the relays for me. Its a 3 way toggle switch, I can switch it from foglight powered (based off of the front fog lights being on), brake light activated (linked in with the 3rd brake light) or just off.

I learned from friends and their 2010 LGTS, don't mess with BIU... its too expensive to mess up.

Yipee, I also got confirmation from Ralleysport that they have mailed it.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:37 AM   #80
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My idea would be just to not include the BIU. I would just use the stalk switch to go to my own relay and wiring assembly which would join the rear segment that goes to the bulb. I haven't had time to pull everything apart since I don't have the stalk yet in order to see if there are pins populated on the car side. My guess is that there are no wires there.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:20 PM   #81
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Nice found

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Old 03-29-2011, 01:12 AM   #82
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So where did you guys order this from??
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:41 AM   #83
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I have a friend who has set up the relays for me. Its a 3 way toggle switch, I can switch it from foglight powered (based off of the front fog lights being on), brake light activated (linked in with the 3rd brake light) or just off.

I learned from friends and their 2010 LGTS, don't mess with BIU... its too expensive to mess up.

Yipee, I also got confirmation from Ralleysportdirect that they have mailed it.
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So where did you guys order this from??
See above.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:25 PM   #84
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My idea would be just to not include the BIU. I would just use the stalk switch to go to my own relay and wiring assembly which would join the rear segment that goes to the bulb. I haven't had time to pull everything apart since I don't have the stalk yet in order to see if there are pins populated on the car side. My guess is that there are no wires there.
That would be perfect. The OEM switch has the rear fog switch as a spring-loaded function. You turn it to the rear fog position and it springs back to the front fog position. I presume that this sets it up such that the rear fog runs only until the car is shut off and requires you to toggle it again once you restart the car if you want it on again. It keeps us from looking like idiots driving around with our rear fog lamps on all the time.

That said, the switch may require a specific relay to mimic that function, as it cannot simply be set to "on".
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:03 PM   #85
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That would be perfect. The OEM switch has the rear fog switch as a spring-loaded function. You turn it to the rear fog position and it springs back to the front fog position. I presume that this sets it up such that the rear fog runs only until the car is shut off and requires you to toggle it again once you restart the car if you want it on again. It keeps us from looking like idiots driving around with our rear fog lamps on all the time.

That said, the switch may require a specific relay to mimic that function, as it cannot simply be set to "on".

Is there a way we can order the Rear Fog light switch ?
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:32 PM   #86
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Is there a way we can order the Rear Fog light switch ?
You'd have to get the whole stalk. Not sure if the JDM version is on the same side of the wheel.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:58 PM   #87
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You'd have to get the whole stalk. Not sure if the JDM version is on the same side of the wheel.

Thats the issue. The one you really need is the UK version. Its on the correct side from what I've read. Im just going to add a small swith under the left stalk for the fogs. Im going to tap into the front fog light wiring.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:46 PM   #88
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That would be perfect. The OEM switch has the rear fog switch as a spring-loaded function. You turn it to the rear fog position and it springs back to the front fog position. I presume that this sets it up such that the rear fog runs only until the car is shut off and requires you to toggle it again once you restart the car if you want it on again. It keeps us from looking like idiots driving around with our rear fog lamps on all the time.

That said, the switch may require a specific relay to mimic that function, as it cannot simply be set to "on".
This is not a problem, you can be lazy and use a PAC TR-7 and latch the output digitally, or you can make a latching relay setup with a 5 connector SPDT relay. Come on... easy easy easy....
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:23 PM   #89
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This is not a problem, you can be lazy and use a PAC TR-7 and latch the output digitally, or you can make a latching relay setup with a 5 connector SPDT relay. Come on... easy easy easy....
Yeah, as I noted, I suspected that you could mimic the function with a relay of some sort. Glad to know it's easy.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:27 PM   #90
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Yeah, as I noted, I suspected that you could mimic the function with a relay of some sort. Glad to know it's easy.
Just use the rear window defogger to activate a regular relay. Its timed for 10 minutes?
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:16 AM   #91
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Just use the rear window defogger to activate a regular relay. Its timed for 10 minutes?
And just keep your rear fog light on 10 minutes at a time? Gets nasty and get rear ended in 15 minutes?
Seriously, a latching relay takes all of 2 minutes to make.
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:03 AM   #92
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And just keep your rear fog light on 10 minutes at a time? Gets nasty and get rear ended in 15 minutes?
Seriously, a latching relay takes all of 2 minutes to make.
Be practical, this light isn't preventing you from getting rear ended its not magical... it just attracts attention to the rear of the car when weather impairs distance vision and maybe won't confuse american drivers in bad weather. I would bet that if weather is so bad outside that you REALLY need this passive device, your rear defroster will be on anyway.

It was just an option, your option might be the way you want to go... that doesn't mean that it is the best option for everyone. I have mine wired.
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My first preference is to use the factory switch and latching function. I've never built a latching relay, but I'm sure that I can handle it once I figure it out...or I can probably just purchase one.

My second option is an aftermarket switch. I'll still probably want it to latch though.
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:43 PM   #94
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My first preference is to use the factory switch and latching function. I've never built a latching relay, but I'm sure that I can handle it once I figure it out...or I can probably just purchase one.

My second option is an aftermarket switch. I'll still probably want it to latch though.
With a multimeter and a battery, I can figure most things out...

Keep us posted on how this works out. I'm trying to hunt down one for my hatch, you sedan folks have it easy.
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With a multimeter and a battery, I can figure most things out...

Keep us posted on how this works out. I'm trying to hunt down one for my hatch, you sedan folks have it easy.
Actually, I'm in a hatch too. I found the lamp for an LHD car by pure luck on eBay. I got the switch on eBay as well. It took some time and a lot of searching.
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Keep us posted on how this works out. I'm trying to hunt down one for my hatch, you sedan folks have it easy.
I ordered mine from a Subaru parts place in Europe. It's a little pricey but it beats trying to find one one Ebay since they only pop up very rarely.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:03 PM   #97
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It's to keep people from slamming into the back of your car in really bad weather.
you don't need a bad weather to get rear ended around here...
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:45 AM   #98
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I ended up wiring a new circuit with a 30amp relay and a tiny rocker switch i mounted under the left hand stalk on the steering column. If or when I source a Euro stalk I will get a new lower plastic piece for the column and change out the stalk. Did anyone ever notice that the fuse panel diagram on the our cars shows "R. Brake/R. Fog" on the 20amp circuit?
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Installed mine yesterday
Not wired yet.

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bad cellphone pic.

If I knew this would be so easy to do... it would've been done months ago.
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