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Old 07-14-2010, 12:27 PM   #1
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Exclamation HELP! NOW! carless in Silver Spring MD with blown engine block !!!

i drove a 2006 Legacy 2.5i and i just blew the engine block (says fitzgerald subaru of rockville) and now it's sitting in the shop until i decide what i'm doing with it...

they want $6500 to replace n/a 2.5i engine block...
...no

found JDM FXT EJ257 motor from gruppe-s for $2999

found STI short block from gruppe-s for $2350

i am uninterested in replacing block with OEM piece for $6500

more interested in replacing with upgraded sti block and building n/a motor or swapping blown engine for the JDM FXT EJ257 at a local tuner shop

i'm aware if i swap engines (if possible) that i would have to upgrade everything else in my drive train but would i have to immediately? while breaking in the engine and not using boost until i did so?

help?! please?! and what mid atlantic shops would you recommend this being done at
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:09 PM   #2
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AndrewTech, IAG Performance, Mach V Motorsports

All are great shops, all have done swaps. All are pretty busy, so give them a call and talk to them directly.

Do you have an overall budget?

I would guess add about $5,000 on to the price of that JDM FXT EJ257 to have the swap done CORRECTLY with the right drivetrain.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:24 PM   #3
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$5000 is alot less than $6500 thanks man!
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:39 PM   #4
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$5000 is alot less than $6500 thanks man!
Uh...Jard said $5000 PLUS the cost of the motor. So $8000. And I'd say that's probably low. You're putting a turbo engine into a car that didn't start out as a turbo. You're going to need a LOT of parts. ECU, custom wiring harness or full car wiring harness from the donor car, intake and exhaust manifolds, full exhaust, intercooler, gauge cluster...the list goes on and on. It's do-able, but no way it's going to be less than $6500.

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Old 07-14-2010, 01:57 PM   #5
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$5000 is alot less than $6500 thanks man!
I would call all the shops I listed and ask for a quote to replace the stock short block with another 2.5i block too...
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:18 PM   #6
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I would call all the shops I listed and ask for a quote to replace the stock short block with another 2.5i block too...
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And like Dan said your talking some serious jing to convert a non turbo car to a turbo car.
IMO stick with an NA engine
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:43 PM   #7
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What is so fancy about the JDM FXT EJ257 anyway?

I'd do the OEM replacement, sell the car, and buy a Legacy GT. Just saying!

PS: I'd call the local shops as well, easier to get a feel for each of them.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:22 PM   #8
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I know how you feel, i am currently driving my dads old s-10 while my subie sets in a garage with a spun rod bearing. Will be purchasing a new motor this week.

If you are set on going with a sti block, check out flatironstuning they have the sti shortblock on sale for 1799.00 plus shipping.

If you plan on staying N/A what about one of the Flat 6's from the Legacies. It would be pretty sweet with a 3.0 or 3.6 H6. I dont know what the price tag on that would be though, probably cheapier than going turbo in a non turbo car.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:27 PM   #9
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Give some shops a call, Andrewtech is about 15mins from where your car is at.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:48 AM   #10
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Just to drop the engine in is going to be around $1200 depending on the shop

if you're going to drop a motor in, why not a Legacy GT motor from the same year ? A full long block can be found for roughly $2500-3000 - there's plenty of wrecked GTs out there. Of course then you'll need the ECU and key chipped to the ECU to run the car, and the turbo crossmember. Then you'll need the wiring... add another $2-2500.

High end - $7000.

Or...just buy a used 2.5i motor?
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:08 PM   #11
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I agree with the comments along the lines, "fix with (used) stock engine, then sell car and buy GT". It's just not worth the trouble making the swap when you're starting with an NA car, unless you have a lot of time or money on your hands. So much easier to just start with the right car. The transaction costs of selling a used car anding buying another used car will be less than the added cost of the swap.
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Old 07-17-2010, 03:47 AM   #12
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thanks guys. im glad to know i can depend on the locals for advice, that helps a lot. talked to sam at andrewtech, leaning more towards swapping blown engine block for sti short block and going long term build as n/a with available option of turbo b/c forged internals of upgraded engine block.

talked to local shops figuring $1000 for engine swap maintenance and $3000 for engine if i purchase FXT JDM from gruppe-s. but have the option to bid for multple wrecked STI's in new england for $2000. thats entire engine for less that $2.5k and a shop in RI i can install myself and wreckecd STI includes wiring harness and ECU for turbo'd engine

does anyone have any links from other forums for n/a builds?
i'm not talking about that "i made a mistake buying a n/a 2/5i and want to make it look sweet with trim and stickers (while still rocking casted internals)"
i'm talking about a beautiful high top speed slow acceleration respectable naturally aspirated build. anyone?!

because we all know how much nicer sounding and long lasting and dependable a naturally aspirated engine can be... with some tender love and care.... (care i.e CASH)
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:21 AM   #13
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thanks guys. im glad to know i can depend on the locals for advice, that helps a lot. talked to sam at andrewtech, leaning more towards swapping blown engine block for sti short block and going long term build as n/a with available option of turbo b/c forged internals of upgraded engine block.

talked to local shops figuring $1000 for engine swap maintenance and $3000 for engine if i purchase FXT JDM from gruppe-s. but have the option to bid for multple wrecked STI's in new england for $2000. thats entire engine for less that $2.5k and a shop in RI i can install myself and wreckecd STI includes wiring harness and ECU for turbo'd engine

does anyone have any links from other forums for n/a builds?
i'm not talking about that "i made a mistake buying a n/a 2/5i and want to make it look sweet with trim and stickers (while still rocking casted internals)"
i'm talking about a beautiful high top speed slow acceleration respectable naturally aspirated build. anyone?!

because we all know how much nicer sounding and long lasting and dependable a naturally aspirated engine can be... with some tender love and care.... (care i.e CASH)
Subiesport, aka the NWIC newsletter, did something like this a while ago, "zero to hero" or something like that i think.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1070854

Bolt ons though, I don't think they had an STi block.

The bang for buck doing this will suck compared to doing a swap. Just a warning.

Why do they think the engine died?
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:51 PM   #14
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Just hit 105k miles.....got off parkway, no warning signs, now I may have a blown engine!!
2004 wrx wagon brand new tires, brakes, rotors....very pissed! What now, is there a market to sell it as is?
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:11 PM   #15
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$5000 is alot less than $6500 thanks man!
welcome to the club..

unfortunately, you may end up spending about $5k plus when said and done due to all the other parts that may need replacing. I know, because I'm in the same situation as you and my LGT is at Andrewtech now..
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