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Old 07-16-2018, 01:28 PM   #1
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Default Rust damage in an important spot?

There's rust all over my car, so much so I sometimes just want to throw it away just so I don't have to deal with it. I can't even use the jack stand point on the rear driver-side wheel because it doesn't even exist anymore.

The new spot I found does not seem like it will last much longer and although it somehow miraculously holds up the car its not very safe as you can see by the pictures lol...

Anyways, the reason I am posting is because I'm not really sure if I should even drive the car anymore due to the area the rust has damaged. It looks as if the spot holds some significance to the frame of the car and realistically its only a matter of time before what ever metal is there, fails.

What are your guys thoughts? Thanks


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Old 07-16-2018, 02:28 PM   #2
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Year and model?
Assuming the horizontal rear diff mount pictured?

Yes, pretty ugly. Wonder what the rear strut towers look like.

As a DD commuter (no spirited driving, no off-road, no real rear loads or trailering), you have some time left. Start saving for something different.
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:54 PM   #3
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I would not trust that jacking point
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:18 AM   #4
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of course those rails are important, but it's not like one day your car is just going to cave in or something.
There's tons of redundancy in unibodies.
It's almost unfixable, once it's rotted years further the car will have to be scraped but just drive it
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:29 PM   #5
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the diff carrier is part of the sprung weight, as in to say it moves as a whole, with everything passed the springs so rusty rails probably won't create too much of a problem. That being said, if you do any thing to do with the diff carrier (changes bushings for example), you're probably going to take the threads with the bolts and have to do a massive repair to get it back together. the welds on the nuts inside of the rails are piss poor.

evidence: i did bushings on my carrier. while unbolting the big bolt through the bushing, the nut INSIDE THE FRAME RAIL spun off it's welds, and i had to cut out part of the frame and weld in a new piece, with a nut on it... was about 2 weeks of hoist time for me to do it myself, and my rails weren't as bad as this.
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:38 PM   #6
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Personally I would never drive a car with that much rust.
Scrap it and get a new one.
That rust is only what you can see, Im imagining there will be more under there that you can't see
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:57 PM   #7
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I appreciate the responses and yes itís pretty depressing that I drive something so rusted but unfortunately I need it to last another year lol.

Itís an 03 coming on 120k, surprisingly the rear strut towers are fine but thatís where the good stuff ends. I always wanted to keep this thing as a winter beater to fix up but itís definitely beyond fixing at this point.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:45 PM   #8
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I would not trust that jacking point
Thats what she said.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:36 PM   #9
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Year and model?
Assuming the horizontal rear diff mount pictured?

Yes, pretty ugly. Wonder what the rear strut towers look like.

As a DD commuter (no spirited driving, no off-road, no real rear loads or trailering), you have some time left. Start saving for something different.
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of course those rails are important, but it's not like one day your car is just going to cave in or something.
There's tons of redundancy in unibodies.
It's almost unfixable, once it's rotted years further the car will have to be scraped but just drive it
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I appreciate the responses and yes itís pretty depressing that I drive something so rusted but unfortunately I need it to last another year lol.

Itís an 03 coming on 120k, surprisingly the rear strut towers are fine but thatís where the good stuff ends. I always wanted to keep this thing as a winter beater to fix up but itís definitely beyond fixing at this point.

While still your choice, I think these are valid and worthwhile replies. You have to decide mission and risk.


I would drive it as a DD, no spirited driving, AutoX, track days, etc. Nor really bad roads, at least above slow speeds.
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Old 07-20-2018, 09:17 PM   #10
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Also, that bracket that you're using as a jack-stand point in the rear is used for the rear differential mounting bracket. You should not use that bracket as a jacking point or a jack-stand point.

I also agree with the points above. It's time to start saving, if you have not already done so, and buy another car.
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