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12-07-2017, 05:44 PM | #51 | |
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And regarding the RS, the hate is strong, especially here. It competes with buttercups vehicle. So it doesn’t matter what it does, or doesn’t do, there will be blood. Only thing to me that would be better is the half shafts in the front too, so it would vector at all 4 corners instead of one axle. It is or was fun to listen to all the Ken Block, drift mode beotching. Drift = rear wheel drive mode, 70% rear, 30% front. Imagine an AWD system you can turn into RWD with a touch of a button. That’s what’s on the current and soon to to be expired RS. Merci Buckets sir, you know who you are.
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12-07-2017, 08:39 PM | #52 |
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That's what you have a warranty for so **** them. I get the same **** for driving a VW. Annnnnd, so what? If something breaks, I've got another 59k of powertrain coverage. I doubt I'll modify beyond wheels and tires and maybe a few suspension pieces so I've got nothing to worry about.
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12-07-2017, 08:46 PM | #53 | |
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They might as well call that thing beast mode. |
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12-07-2017, 09:21 PM | #54 |
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Well the CTR has a transmission issue right now so all these cars have their warts and Honda has always got a bit of a pass because people remember how much more reliable they were in than the competition 25 years ago even if today they aren't built nearly as well.
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12-07-2017, 11:45 PM | #55 | |
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I haven't read a single review from any of the major outlets where gear engagement became an issue. All the track and spirited road videos and nothing. Pretty sure Consumer Reports would have mentioned an issue had there been one. Again, not the same nor on the same level as Ford's issue, IMO. Just watched this one today too. Makes me miss my Civic. |
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12-30-2017, 12:36 PM | #57 |
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2017 Ford Focus RS vs. 2017 Honda Civic Type R
Damn. The torque of that Audi.
664 lbs ft 6,600+ lbs curb weight. |
12-30-2017, 12:47 PM | #58 |
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12-31-2017, 10:04 AM | #59 |
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Audi won before it started based on sound alone.
The focus sounds like a garbage disposal with something rattling around with the "burble"--as do all inline 4s that aren't spinning at least 10k rpm. |
01-01-2018, 12:22 AM | #60 |
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ECOTY 2017 Best Hot Hatch
http://www.evo.co.uk/honda/civic-typ...best-hot-hatch EVO Super Test http://www.evo.co.uk/supertest/20456...eview/page/0/3 The verdict It's decision time. So which of these three very hot hatches is our clear winner? We could tease out the winner of the test, but there'd be no point because in the final reckoning the Honda walks it. No matter which way you cut it, the Civic comes out on top thanks to its staggering breadth of abilities. It's no exaggeration to say that the Type R redefines what's possible for a hot hatch - either front or four-wheel drive. ***8216;It bristles with capability, seriousness, competency, aggression', enthuses Towler. ***8216;It successfully melds the outrageous performance people expected with old fashioned, but extremely relevant, qualities of interaction. It feels like a special car, honed for the task by a team on top of their game.' The fact it was fastest around the track, is the most spacious and practical day to day and won't cost the earth to run is the icing on top of the Honda's hard earned victory cake. Last edited by RandR; 01-01-2018 at 12:29 AM. |
01-01-2018, 01:02 AM | #61 |
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Saw a CTR in person yesterday at my local supermarket, it is more hideous (the body work and all the extra BS is way way over the top) in person then in photos. LOL!
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01-01-2018, 02:34 AM | #62 |
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I can't stand over-hyped reviews. It was annoying with the Focus and it's annoying with the Civic. It also screams "hey this is what you wanted to hear, right?!"
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01-01-2018, 01:11 PM | #63 |
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2017 Ford Focus RS vs. 2017 Honda Civic Type R
Savagegeese gives the most thorough and realistic car reviews on the inter webs. And I’m hooked.
For me, yes...I want to know what the car is like to live with and drive on public roads. It takes more than a twenty minute test drive to find out. (No apologies if these videos were posted earlier) Last edited by Skylab; 01-01-2018 at 02:30 PM. |
01-01-2018, 03:53 PM | #64 |
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I do enjoy his reviews although he can be quite condescending towards his viewers. "If you've never been in a real sports car before." But yeah, if I want a nice cynical review he's got a great channel to turn to. His Focus review was spot on even if I don't agree with all of it I really can't argue against it as every review is going to be subjective.
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01-01-2018, 08:39 PM | #65 |
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06-15-2018, 07:28 AM | #66 | |
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06-15-2018, 01:27 PM | #67 |
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There is absolutely no comparison- Ford, lately, makes hot garbage and their recall list is longer than the Declaration of Independence. I wouldn’t touch a Ford for free right kow. Their QA is an embarrassment. And this is coming from a long time Ford fan who had a 93 escort GT and 98 zx2 both modded, both bought used at around 30k and both hit 130k without a single problem.
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06-18-2018, 01:29 PM | #68 | |
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The Civic Type-R had some gearbox issues early on... and they're still incredibly hard to find. |
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06-19-2018, 08:41 PM | #69 | |
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06-20-2018, 08:04 AM | #70 |
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Co-worker's Boss hasn't been. Engine was replaced under warranty inside the first 1000 miles. Rear drive module / differential toasted itself because they assy plant didn't shim it correctly. Paint is flaking off the hood because they didn't get all the oil cleaned off before painting.
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06-20-2018, 06:27 PM | #71 | |
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Had a small bit of whine in the Torsen t2 differential only on long right turns. Bearing was likely bad. Replaced under warranty. It whined for a while and never got worse, i just warrantied it before it ran out. Teh only semi big problem was a faulty weld on the syncro engagement teeth on third gear. It happened at around 75k miles. I honestly needed to do a clutch/flywheel/shifter anyway so whatever. I had it ran through and upgraded which i wanted to do regardless. It was an incredibly rare failure, transmission builder has seen 3 of those failures in over 500 transmissions. That being said, the car has seen trackdays, autocross, rallycross, copious amounts of redlines, burnouts, and basically has the crap beaten out of it daily. |
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06-20-2018, 11:36 PM | #72 |
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I could see myself driving the RS but have a hard time seeing me show up somewhere professional in the Civic. And I still drive an Evo which looks conservative by comparison
I have had my Mustang for 1 1/2 yr. no issues so far. Only Ford (or US car for that matter) I have ever owned but pleased right now. |
06-30-2018, 05:58 AM | #73 | |
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Ford RS vs Civic Type R vs I30N
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