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Old 05-12-2004, 05:05 AM   #1
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Legacy Official Legacy Brake Pad Review/Recommendation Thread

Did a search here...found no such thing.

So my brakes are telling me they need new pads Apparently the list price for OEM rear Subaru pads is 72 bucks...hahaha, yeah right.

With that said, do you guys have any reviews or recommendations for brake pads for normal/spirited/non-track use? Links/prices would be helpful too. There seem to be a bunch of different options on ebay...

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Old 05-12-2004, 06:09 AM   #2
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Seems any of those aftermarket pads they sell here on the Board are just as expensive or more.
As for stock one's, that's crazy.

What about Raybesto's Pads or some other Generic one, they should be cheaper at any Auto supply store.
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:30 AM   #3
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http://www.wpfri.com/

They make custom compounds for the Scooby drivers, to eliminate the front brake bias.

They have a factory in Florida and in Canada, give them a shout.

Click here for more details: http://spda-online.ca/modules/newbb/...d=283&forum=20
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:12 AM   #4
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fibuz,

Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you get out of your brakes? with some spirited driving I asume.

I am at about 65 000 Km (in canada) and I have been preparing to buy new ones soon. no squealing though, just fade.
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:46 AM   #5
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Woot! $21 for pads on that site lol!
I'll still be looking around i think
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Old 05-12-2004, 12:31 PM   #6
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I think my current pads are from Raybestos.
No real dusting issues.
Quiet.
Fairly cheap.
Semi Metallic.

I drive fairly hard as well as autoX when I can.

I have had fade, but not real bad. Of course, it was a fast downhill run of quite a few miles, so I was not surprised.

I will use them again.
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:18 PM   #7
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I currently use the Hawk HPS for front and rear. Nice brake upgrade from stock but expensive.

This weekend I'm changing to the custom compounds by Williams, this will get rid of the overbearing front bias, so we can stop shorter. Brake later, deeper.

NewfieGT - The Subaru Specific ones are 80 bucks Canadian / set for the front, and 60 bucks Canadian for the rears. The $21.00 pads are for the ancient Honda's that will never see the track. Read carefully and you'll see what it's about.

But, for people that don't realize what brake bias is, it won't matter to you.

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:28 PM   #8
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I got some Cobb Street pads for my front WRX/OB swap and i really like them, a lot more than the stock ones i was using. They dusted a lot when breaking in, but not so bad since.

Kinda expensive, but they're really nice.
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Old 05-12-2004, 02:02 PM   #9
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sorta off topic but what type of paint should i use to paint my brake calipers?
I'm looking at red but since the calipers are dark gray right now then they'll end up maroon if i paint then w. red. So should i use a primer first. and do i need high temp paint?
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Old 05-12-2004, 02:14 PM   #10
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I am using Porterfield R4S pads. They create a lot of dust but they are a terrific pad. Not sure if they make them for the stock front brakes...I'm presently using Subaru 4-pots which use the same pad as a 300ZX. I would also recommend Pagid for a good pad. Hawk aren't bad at all and would be good bang for the buck IMO.
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Old 05-12-2004, 03:33 PM   #11
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Quote:
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fibuz,

Just out of curiosity, how many miles did you get out of your brakes? with some spirited driving I asume.
well.....I'm the second owner of the car...I've only had it about 6-7,000miles

Theres almost 60K on the car though...

I'm almost positive a female owned the car previous to me...and she probably drove with right foot on gas, left foot on brake and wore the pads down or something :P

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P.S. Thanks for all the advice guys, I'ma check all this info out later tonight
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Old 05-12-2004, 04:03 PM   #12
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NewfieGT - The Subaru Specific ones are 80 bucks Canadian / set for the front, and 60 bucks Canadian for the rears. The $21.00 pads are for the ancient Honda's that will never see the track. Read carefully and you'll see what it's about.

I know, i was laughing at that.
The $80 Fronts & $60 Rear's seem to be the one's to get, though they are still expensive.
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:36 PM   #13
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I've been running Axxis/PBR Metal Masters F&R w/ SS lines, and they've been great. Low to Moderate dusting... and only downside is initial fade in cold/wet weather, but grabe real good once warmed up. They've lasted a surprising long time for "spirited" daily driving and one auto-x.

Bought a new set of Axxis/PBR "Deluxe" pads to replace front, but the MM hadn't even hit 50% yet. "deluxe" are supposed to be better than stock w/ out dusting and don't need warm up. I bought from P.E. at www.get-primitive.com .

Since I don't need 'em... I'd sell them $55 shipped (as long as shipping isn't more than $10).
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:15 PM   #14
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AXXIS are great for the buck.
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Old 05-12-2004, 07:49 PM   #15
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I know, i was laughing at that.
The $80 Fronts & $60 Rear's seem to be the one's to get, though they are still expensive.
That's in Canadian Dollars which means:

80 bucks less 20% discount (spda membership) = $45.71 USD for Front Pads
60 bucks less 20% discount (spda membership) = $34.28 USD for rear pads.

That's pretty cheap. Ever see what Subaru charges for OEM pads?
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:05 PM   #16
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I have a set of the Axxis metal masters as well, great pad. Went to a trackday at Watkins Glen and I didn't have many problems at all with the pedal going towards the floor.

How do the pads work that change the bias? That seems an interesting concept. Is it just softer pads in the back and harder in the front or what?
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Old 05-13-2004, 12:44 AM   #17
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It's a matter of adjusting the friction coefficient of the pad material. Not necessarilly softer or harder, just different compounds and operating ranges.

Williams knows what they are doing, they are one of the manufacturers that OEM brake pads for many of the common brands. When I visited their site, 2 weeks ago, they were making up a sample set of F1 pads, they have an 800 ton heat press at their Mississauga locaton for custom fabricating pads.

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:31 AM   #18
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Ahh, that sounds cool, I'll have to look into those when I go through my pads.
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Old 05-13-2004, 12:36 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by DLC
I got some Cobb Street pads for my front WRX/OB swap and i really like them, a lot more than the stock ones i was using. They dusted a lot when breaking in, but not so bad since.

Kinda expensive, but they're really nice.
Really? I have the Cobb's for Front's and I think they dust like mad.

The only reason I haven't taken them off, is I like the performance I get from them.
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Old 05-13-2004, 01:41 PM   #20
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sorta off topic but what type of paint should i use to paint my brake calipers?
I'm looking at red but since the calipers are dark gray right now then they'll end up maroon if i paint then w. red. So should i use a primer first. and do i need high temp paint?
I used VHT caliper paint.

The dark grey will not show through. The paints is opaque when applied. Do NOT use a primer unless the paint you use says to. Most high temp paints need to be applied without a primer.

Yes you need hi-temp paint for the calipers.

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Old 05-13-2004, 01:44 PM   #21
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I am partial to cheap over-the-counter pads most of the time, such as Albany pads at AZ. If I need a higher temp operating range I try to get a PFC z-rated pad.

Remember, unless you are fading the pads, pad selection is more or a feel issue than a performance issue. Your stock pads should be able to easily bring the car to lockup. Some pads can seriously close your modulation range.

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Old 05-14-2004, 04:37 AM   #22
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well...looks like im going for the "FRONT & REAR Axxis Metal Master semi-metallic pads"

bought them off ebay for 89shipped.

I'll post results once I get them on

Any suggestions for DIY install? maybe anything not mentioned in kastle's writeup over at scoobymods?

heres the sm tutorial: http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84

thanks again for all the suggestions guys

cheers.

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Old 05-16-2004, 11:22 PM   #23
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I use AXXIS Ultimate kelvar brake pads in the front. I got them for $57 from Carbotech Engineering. Comparing them to stock pads, it is like night and day. Having inferior pads feels unsafe now, because I'm so used to the nice stopping powr. The pedal feel has improved so much, and I have experienced no fade autocrossing on them. They produce a TON of dust, though, but they don't make any noise. I have 14,000 miles on them and there's still plenty of pad left.
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I thought I would bump this thread.

I have upgraded to Carbotech Bobcat pads. I like them but would like something a little stronger. Dust isn't bad and just a little squeel at initial contact.

Rotors are PowerSlot and I have stainless lines.

If I were to do it again I would buy the 05 Legacy GT upgrade or some sort of 4 pots. My rotors are cryo'd so I will be with them for a long time.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:13 PM   #25
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I thought I would bump this thread.

I have upgraded to Carbotech Bobcat pads. I like them but would like something a little stronger. Dust isn't bad and just a little squeel at initial contact.

Rotors are PowerSlot and I have stainless lines.

If I were to do it again I would buy the 05 Legacy GT upgrade or some sort of 4 pots. My rotors are cryo'd so I will be with them for a long time.
Where did you pick up the PowerSlots from?
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