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Old 09-07-2002, 03:25 PM   #1
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Talking Header is ON!

First off I gotta shout out a big "thanks" to everyone that showed up to help, or brought me tools to work with (to matt's friend that brought the deep well 14 that I needed, sorry I didn't get a chance to get your name, and properly introduce myself; that was bad form on my part). That thing would NOT have gone on without all of you, I think everyone was under the car at some point. 'Specially Pete, who, I think, may have turned more wrenches than I did during the install. Plus he's had his on and off so many time he knew all the tricks. And yes it was only the WD cooking off that made that smell and smoke. It's fine today.

I must say though:
:monkey: to Subaru for the crap hardware that rusted solid and to making it a clusterfuk to get access to the bolts
:monkey: to Borla for not having good enough QC to make a proper test jig to check alignment


The sound is really cool. It was a huge change in tone and frequency of the sound. It's gone from the big rig, "jake brake" sound (as matt described it) to kind of the V8 rumble at speed that everyone speaks of with the Borla's, but at lower speeds it sounds very much like some turbo 'roos that I've heard, with the chopped up exhaust pulses. In fact it sounds exactly like the one GC8 STi rally car that was at STPR this year. Oddly enough I think at cruise it's actually quieter than just the Apexi was. Hard to be sure, but it's still loud...as I'm sure my neighbors can attest to during the test run at 12:30 How loud was it when I was going up and down the road last night? AJ, what was your take given that you were riding along to sample the lights?

It's also definetly faster, much stronger through out the range, though some of that might have been due to an ECU reset, which I haven't done in a long time. No CE either, but we'll see how long it stays that way. Either way it's on, and I'm happy.

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Old 09-07-2002, 04:35 PM   #2
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damn, how many old people does it take to put on a header? I put mine on all by myself in under 2 hours cause I had to cut off some rusted bolts....
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Old 09-07-2002, 04:54 PM   #3
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haha yeah i know how you feel, me and my friend put mine on in about an hour, but he had a lift and air tools to use at our pleasure. Even with the air tools the bolts connecting the header to the cat were tough. But i have a 2000rs and after a couple of weeks you CE light will start to come on and off randomly. So me and my friend had to put the biatch back on the lift take them off and wrap the header...which wasnt hard, but tedious...since then no CE light. I think for 2 rolls, one 1" and one 2" was 50 bucks from JEG's.
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Old 09-08-2002, 12:03 AM   #4
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Austin the one I put on was wrapped, so no CE is expected, plus Rudy said he didn't have a CE when it was on his car. <crosses fingers>

Brain, you tea pot, see how long it takes you when you doing it on a car with 70k on the odo. Every bolt & nut was rusted solid, but because we were careful (and broke out the impact gun) we didn't break a single bolt. That and not having some key tools ate up some time, along with the requsite bull****ing (FYI I went out and got a deep well metric socket set today, so, no more bitching about what tools I have and don't have ).

Brian, I remember a time when us "old guys" were the ones you begged to put parts on your car 'cause you weren't capable. If it weren't for that kindness the only mods you'd have be spray painted on or vinyl. Yes, yes we all know you have a turbo on your car, no need to mention it again

Update on the sound level..the wife has confirmed that it IS quieter, and that she likes the sound far better than before.

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Old 09-08-2002, 01:37 AM   #5
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To Bob,,congrats on the new tools
To Brian, Nevermind,,your not worth it.You NOVA guys are too nice to this twerp.
Rudy

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Old 09-08-2002, 02:17 AM   #6
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Brain, you tea pot,


Brian, I remember a time when us "old guys" were the ones you begged to put parts on your car 'cause you weren't capable. If it weren't for that kindness the only mods you'd have be spray painted on or vinyl. Yes, yes we all know you have a turbo on your car, no need to mention it again

Update on the sound level..the wife has confirmed that it IS quieter, and that she likes the sound far better than before.

Bob
HAHAHA Tea pot oh thats classic......good one Bob

Hey I have respect for anybody that can install parts cause i know I shouldnt be around tools cause i end up losing my paitence. Im good with electronics and thats about it

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Old 09-08-2002, 01:26 PM   #7
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Bob- FYI, i installed my headers with 90k on the odo. so put that in your pipe and smoke it...
damn people you ever heard of sarcasm???

btw, Bob, after a week or about 250 miles, go ahead and re-torque the nuts connecting the headers to the block, mine wigglied a little loose...
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Old 09-08-2002, 01:41 PM   #8
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Teapot, you've passed 90k? Gods, how many miles are on it now? I can't believe that thing is still running, especially with you at the controls Testiment to Subaru durability.

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so put that in your pipe and smoke it...
That's what I'll use the old headers for.

I've heard about the nut's rattling loose so I'll be sure and check.

I now need to get to work and making the guage connection box so I can use the probes I had welded in the header as well as the other gauges.

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Old 09-08-2002, 07:42 PM   #9
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[Voice of God]Let there be light!!!! Errrmmm... Bob, turn your highbeams on please...[/Voice of God]

And angelic voices rangout fromt he heavens as the world was enveloped in light.

Yes, I'm quite impressed with those 4K's. Now I'm even more eager to put them on my car.

As for the headers, yeah, I've heard people say that cat-backs that were originally loud are quiter once headers are installed. Heard that for Brullen setups and Stromung as well. Awesome that Shandra likes it too. Well, not that it matters THAT much anyway.

Oh, and how did you sneak in the new tools?

Me, RadioShack.com, my dremel, a sodering iron and a few other things have a date sometime soon to set up my own "black box" for the gauges. Got all the plans right up here *taps head*.

And man was it nice to fly... ummmm... drive home the other night/morning with NO ONE on the roads. Pete and I did a steady 80-85 all the way to B'more.

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