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11-09-2012, 10:23 AM | #26 | ||||
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If you were referring to me, I'm just fine with whatever false image you had of me being erased. You can be damn well certain I won't back down or be swayed by popular opinion. AS for my house, we will serve the Lord. I have many rough edges. AS I've said in several other threads, God's work in me is not yet finished. It is only by working through my faults, and overcoming my wrongdoings that I work my way to the light of the truth. I would rather fight tooth and nail through a life of obstacles to spend one second in the light of truth than linger in the darkness. There are times experiencing the polar extremes of an issue gives one a better perspective of right and wrong. I've walked a long, difficult and unique path. My truth is my own. One thing I've learned along the way is that you can only come to it when you are ready. When the student is ready, the teacher appears. Conversely, when the teacher is ready, the student appears. Personally, I disagree. Civil discussions can be had on widely varying topics. The differences and spaces between us leave room, for you and I to grow. We all come from different homes, value systems, beliefs, life experiences, careers, etc. There is value in that. Sharing those perspectives, however uncomfortable it may be at times, doesn't have to be a bad thing. Quote:
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11-09-2012, 11:19 AM | #27 |
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I disagree. These topics need to be talked (not argued) about. Our country is literally split in half about this and that isn't good. If someone doesn't like me for my "politics, religion, and other various beliefs" than thats sad. The beauty of these forums is you can talk your mind, have an argument, log off the computer, and go back to being friends. We need to talk about this not as democrats, republicans, liberals, and conservatives but as Americans.
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11-09-2012, 11:37 AM | #28 |
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There is a difference between talking about it and forcefully shoving religion down someones throat.
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11-09-2012, 11:37 AM | #29 |
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If a topic is allowed in forum rules it will be allowed, if the forum breaks down to name calling etc. it MAY get locked to allow folks to cool down. This doesn't mean the last post was "right" it was just time... think of it as Sherbet in between the courses of your AKIC dining exerience. As a Member: I think many subjects have a place on message boards... however, you need to know your audience. If you know that you won't be able to make a point without a total breakdown of self control or the ability to keep emotions in check by some of the participants... don't act surprised by the responses. Have fun all... |
11-09-2012, 11:58 AM | #30 | |
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11-09-2012, 12:18 PM | #31 |
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11-09-2012, 12:49 PM | #32 | |||||
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Those types of discussion I feel should always be in person so that one can accurately say what they mean as well as give people a chance to discuss their viewpoints without being misconveyed. Just like my statement was by you Quote:
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11-09-2012, 02:22 PM | #33 |
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If you thought I was forcing religion down someones throat than I am sorry. I still cant find anywhere where I tried to preach about religion. I was not trying to offend anyone in my post, so again, please forgive me if I did so. Just saying my view on things as you and many others have.
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11-09-2012, 02:34 PM | #35 | |
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11-09-2012, 04:37 PM | #36 | |
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50 years ago as science progressed beyond a rudimentary stage, many scientists when asked if they believed in God would say "Of course not, I am a scientist! " Often times now days, in an age of particle accelerators, electron microscopes and advanced chemistry, genetics or astronomy, if you ask a scientist if they believe in a supreme being they will say " Of course I do, I'm a scientist. " My life experiences, specifically in the medical field have left me certain without a doubt of God's divinity and the reality of an afterlife. An underlying connectivity to all. Many people get hung up on the whole old white guy on a cloud, angels, harps, milk and honey, etc. Religion is each cultures' way of seeking the divine. Therein lies the problem. A religious life is not necessarily a spiritual life. Religion attempts to confine God to a identifiable concept and that is impossible. God cannot be defined because be is infinite. He is beyond nature. He is the intelligence that gives matter it's innate and fundamental order and purpose. Change your perspective, look at the natural order and intelligence around you in all of its different material and immaterial manifestations. That is merely one facet of God. Darwin's theory and creationism do not necessarily have to be opposed. All I have time for at the moment. |
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11-09-2012, 05:21 PM | #37 | |
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This forum is an imperfect medium for communication. It rarely ceases to amaze me just how far the jump to erroneous conclusions can be about what a person actually says or was inferred by their words to what was interpreted. My short bus statement was specific to a person who would make a statement that "there is nothing wrong with 'weed and gay marriage everywhere'." My, how about be responsible for you own uterus comment ( or penis, for that matter) was not to control a person's choices but to BE responsible for it and not expect someone else to pick up the tab for your poor choices. Whether a woman or couple chooses an abortion after the education, knowledge of consequences of unprotected sex and the plethora of inexpensive birth control methods readily available IS none of my business. What would make it my business is public money from taxes going to pay for abortions because of poor personal choices. BE responsible for it yourself. That is all I was saying. Same goes with the public assistance to care, house, clothe, feed and educate those offspring to adulthood because the parents can't afford to. I am pro-life. That doesn't mean I am out there bombing abortion clinics or picketing. I unfortunately know all too well that there are instances where needless suffering and death can be averted by abortions. I've been the one risking my life on neonate medevac transports innumerable times fighting through ****ty weather to try to land and take care of a 24 week gestation preemie (full term is 40 weeks) who will need $$$ care the rest if its life. All because the unwed mom & unemployed boyfrend/father chose not to attend the free prenatal care or to used a multitude of drugs (alcohol, tobacco and othrr illicit drugs) during the pregnancy. I've seen the bills that mount in these situations. I know who pays for it. We all do! I'm finished. I will be much more clear in my posts henceforth. Try not to project your issues onto what I am saying. If it is unclear to you, ask for clarification. Don't infer or conjour. What Kate answered to was never there. Last edited by Nomadgene; 11-09-2012 at 06:33 PM. |
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