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Old 07-10-2020, 01:04 AM   #1
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1. Just want to report that after 100k miles on Bilsteins and RCE blacks this setup has served me very well. My car was and is setup to be a great DD, and this setup has delivered as advertised. Car stills feels alive and well. My only critique of this setup would be a bumpy low speed behavior

2. However, considering the number of miles that are on this setup, I am anticipating eventual failure, and have begun looking into other options. Again, I think my current setup is stellar and having 100k miles proves its longevity and reliability but also thinking it might be nice to change it up for the sake of variety and also I'm wondering if I can get the compliance of my current setup with improvements in soaking up smaller and low speed bump damping

I would like to hear from people that have run this particular setup along with another. Why did you change either to or away from this setup? Do you regret it? What were other options you considered and what steered you away?

My current suspension mods are followed:
whiteline 22mm front/rear SB
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Cusco rear LCA
WL anti-lift kit
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WL subframe inserts
WL rear diff bushings
WL transmission bushing
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Old 07-11-2020, 02:42 AM   #2
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I don't have the same setup that you do, but I have a few suggestions. At 100k miles, you will probably want to replace the stock rubber suspension bushings that you have not replaced already. If you want more comfort, I'd go with new stock bushings as any aftermarket bushings are typically stiffer/ harder than stock, even the "Comfort" aftermarket bushings. That by itself will increase comfort and performance.

Bilsteins IME have always been more harsh at low speeds than other dampers. I would try changing to a set of Koni Yellow inserts myself as I have loved the ones I have. I did not find much else available for the 2012 WRX in my quick search.

I like the mods you have done so far. Have you done engine mounts or shifter bushings? They are both huge upgrades for chassis feel and shifting precision.
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Old 07-12-2020, 01:50 PM   #3
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yes I have done group n engine mounts and both front and rear shifter bushings...I have considered the koni's. They are certainly on my short list. Other suspension alternatives I've considered are the cygnus performance max comfort x1 coilovers, and KW V3's. Kinda one piece for each price category. I'm leaning toward the KW's. I like the idea of independent compression and rebound settings, for some reason in my head I would think a soft compression with a stiff rebound along with the helper spring and OE top hats would be a very comfortable setting, although I could be dead wrong, but the shop manager at the performance shop I go to recommended KW's. He said it was the most comfortable setup he had while he owned a 11-14 wrx hatchback

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Old 07-12-2020, 02:04 PM   #4
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I've recently been searching for a new strut setup for my GR as well. Sadly there's not much manufacturer support for these anymore. If you're considering CO's I'd recommend taking a look at the HKS Hipermax line or RCE SS-1s (I just ordered a set of these). I've heard nothing but good things about both of these for a daily CO. IIRC the HKS were engineered for North American roads so they're far more comfortable than most JDM coils, and obviously the same goes for RCE being a US company.
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Old 07-28-2020, 11:49 PM   #5
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i just installed some billstein gtworz struts with RCE blacks on my 2015+ and i am super happy with them the only minor complaint is low speed they are a bit harsh but cruising and highway speed they are damn near as comfy as stock, cornering is so much better and i dig the slight drop plus bilsteins struts are awesome quality they routinely last 100k
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Old 07-29-2020, 02:24 PM   #6
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yes I have done group n engine mounts and both front and rear shifter bushings...I have considered the koni's. They are certainly on my short list. Other suspension alternatives I've considered are the cygnus performance max comfort x1 coilovers, and KW V3's. Kinda one piece for each price category. I'm leaning toward the KW's. I like the idea of independent compression and rebound settings, for some reason in my head I would think a soft compression with a stiff rebound along with the helper spring and OE top hats would be a very comfortable setting, although I could be dead wrong, but the shop manager at the performance shop I go to recommended KW's. He said it was the most comfortable setup he had while he owned a 11-14 wrx hatchback
2 ways are great IF you know what you are doing but If the car is primarily a daily/spirited driver with occasional auto-x or HPDE, RCE SS1's will suite you well. Super comfy for the street and just crank up the rebound for track days.
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Old 07-30-2020, 06:50 AM   #7
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2 ways are great IF you know what you are doing but If the car is primarily a daily/spirited driver with occasional auto-x or HPDE, RCE SS1's will suite you well. Super comfy for the street and just crank up the rebound for track days.
This ^^^

Double-adjustables are overkill unless you're involved in some sort of actual competition - actual racing, time trialing, National-level autocross - and you're already up there with the guys at the pointy end.


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Old 07-31-2020, 02:35 PM   #8
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1. 100k miles is an awesome run! You could always just have them rebuilt when the time comes but I totally understand wanting to try something new.

2. Our RCE SS1 coilovers would be a great fit...a real road & track type set-up that's just plain fun. Awesome ride (better over smaller bumps) with lots of travel and adjustable damping. Built by KW to our specs. The camber plates they come with are awesome...one of the best at any price point IMO.

If it weren't for ye olde coronavirus we could probably get you a ride in a car with them but that probably isn't a good idea right now.

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