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Old 06-17-2018, 12:56 PM   #2251
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Well there's your problem. You roll raced in a Subaru.

When you roll race your awd system is just a 200lb and extra +10% drivetrain loss boat anchor. (Unless your opponent is still traction limited)

Next time they want to race do it from a dig, launch you car at 5k rpm, and he'll be seeing your taillights (assuming you don't miss a gear)
Then ask them to tow you because you just broke your trans and an axle ***128514;
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:56 PM   #2252
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Then ask them to tow you because you just broke your trans and an axle ***128514;
Probably ease off the clutch and don't just straight drop it... It'll be fine. Especially since his car is pushing all of 280hp on a dynojet, maybe
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:05 AM   #2253
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Probably ease off the clutch and don't just straight drop it... It'll be fine. Especially since his car is pushing all of 280hp on a dynojet, maybe
The dynojet setting on the virtual dyno says my car is making 210whp, haha, also it wasn't a race of any kind and it's not like he got a jump on me, just pulled away by a lot of car lengths........anyway, I smoke tested the system this weekend, zero leaks, valves we super clean since last Walnut shell blast (EGR delete and Crawford AOS work!) I'm going to pull the plugs this weekend. I actually contacted Evans tuning to inquire about pro tuning on a dyno but apparently they got in trouble with the EPA and now only tune if you can prove the car is an unregistered race car.
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:24 PM   #2254
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MAP 91 - FRN (final revision?) map/ ACN 91 fuel

https://datazap.me/u/lagger1/3rd-gea...10-11-13-19-23

Need to be at 50% throttle just to get into boost during normal day-to-day driving. Need 75% throttle to even justify the tune honestly. Dropped 4-5mpg's across the board.

Hate it. Went back to stock.

Suggestions on a nice low-rpm torque e-tune? Looks like I can't afford Ron anymore. Leaning towards Bren since it looks like they actually have some timing. Is Clark similar?

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Old 06-27-2018, 06:31 PM   #2255
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MAP 91 - FRN (final revision?) map/ ACN 91 fuel

https://datazap.me/u/lagger1/3rd-gea...10-11-13-19-23

Need to be at 50% throttle just to get into boost during normal day-to-day driving. Need 75% throttle to even justify the tune honestly. Dropped 4-5mpg's across the board.

Hate it. Went back to stock.

Suggestions on a nice low-rpm torque e-tune? Looks like I can't afford Ron anymore. Leaning towards Bren since it looks like they actually have some timing. Is Clark similar?

Thanks
You're also over boosting on the MAP tune. Is that a custom or off the shelf map?

Ron's site says he might be doing OTS maps, which are much more affordable. I'm not sure if a custom tune is really necessary when you use specific hardware. For example, a popular setup is TGV, EGR, and GS EBCS. I don't see why a custom tune is really necessary if the OTS map was tuned for those exact parts.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:31 PM   #2256
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The ots cobb map adds timing? Have you not tried their ots maps?
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:58 PM   #2257
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MAP 91 - FRN (final revision?) map/ ACN 91 fuel

https://datazap.me/u/lagger1/3rd-gea...10-11-13-19-23

Need to be at 50% throttle just to get into boost during normal day-to-day driving. Need 75% throttle to even justify the tune honestly. Dropped 4-5mpg's across the board.

Hate it. Went back to stock.

Suggestions on a nice low-rpm torque e-tune? Looks like I can't afford Ron anymore. Leaning towards Bren since it looks like they actually have some timing. Is Clark similar?

Thanks
Yes. Try Eric @ TP. His tunes are very strong down low and midrange with lots of boost, good amount of timing at light throttle inputs. Seems exactly what you are looking for. I think he still chargers around $150 so very affordable. It is a very strong tune overall.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:23 PM   #2258
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Hey everyone, wondering if anyone could take a look at a quick pull I did and see if anything looks funny. This is the MAP 93 ots tune:

https://datazap.me/u/royalflush5/hig...&data=16-18-20

This wrx is my first performance car and I've been loving every second of it.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:34 PM   #2259
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Hey everyone, wondering if anyone could take a look at a quick pull I did and see if anything looks funny. This is the MAP 93 ots tune:

https://datazap.me/u/royalflush5/hig...&data=16-18-20

This wrx is my first performance car and I've been loving every second of it.
Log target boost and comm fuel final afr.

Do a 2-6.5k rpm log only. You have a lot of data on that log.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:43 AM   #2260
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2018 Premium 6MT
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MAP 91 - FRN (final revision?) map/ ACN 91 fuel

https://datazap.me/u/lagger1/3rd-gea...10-11-13-19-23

Need to be at 50% throttle just to get into boost during normal day-to-day driving. Need 75% throttle to even justify the tune honestly. Dropped 4-5mpg's across the board.

Hate it. Went back to stock.

Suggestions on a nice low-rpm torque e-tune? Looks like I can't afford Ron anymore. Leaning towards Bren since it looks like they actually have some timing. Is Clark similar?

Thanks
Go back to page 89 and you can see my Cobb OTS 91 numbers. I gained about 4-5 MPGs. I m not real good at reading them like some but you can take a look. I am happy with the way the car runs.
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:42 AM   #2261
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Log target boost and comm fuel final afr.

Do a 2-6.5k rpm log only. You have a lot of data on that log.
Thanks, I'll play around with the ap and trim the data. Thought it just logged everything. Does it matter what gear? 3 or 4?
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:41 PM   #2262
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Finally got my protune done after months of accumulating parts and a lot of life changes.

https://datazap.me/u/toastlover/91-h...-7-10-11-12-20

Grimmspeed unresonated catted j-pipe
Grimmspeed Catback
Grimmspeed EBCS
TGV/EGR Deletes
Processwest Front Mount Intercooler
Cobb BigSF Intake (I know shame on me... This tuner is one of the best in the state and told me in person that he has tuned these intakes a ton so I took his word for it)
Dynoed at around 284hp/300tq. They will email me the sheets and I'll post them in the Dyno thread.

New datalog looks miles better than the OTS map, not even a comparison. Shows a little fine knock LEARN near 5k, not sure why. The map had literally 10 miles on it before I tried a highway pull. Boost looks great, not sure why it shows target boost at 22 but I am definitely okay with a solid 16-19 for the entire pull. Tune seems pretty conservative and I am very happy with it so far. Exhaust sounds amazing.

Props to Ryan and the rest of the crew at Simple Performance SLC.

Last edited by ToastyWRX; 07-11-2018 at 07:59 PM. Reason: Said FKC instead of FKL
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:59 PM   #2263
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Finally got my protune done after months of accumulating parts and a lot of life changes.

https://datazap.me/u/toastlover/91-h...-7-10-11-12-20

Grimmspeed unresonated catted j-pipe
Grimmspeed Catback
Grimmspeed EBCS
TGV/EGR Deletes
Processwest Front Mount Intercooler
Cobb BigSF Intake (I know shame on me... This tuner is one of the best in the state and told me in person that he has tuned these intakes a ton so I took his word for it)
Dynoed at around 284hp/300tq. They will email me the sheets and I'll post them in the Dyno thread.

New datalog looks miles better than the OTS map, not even a comparison. Shows a little fine knock LEARN near 5k, not sure why. The map had literally 10 miles on it before I tried a highway pull. Boost looks great, not sure why it shows target boost at 22 but I am definitely okay with a solid 16-19 for the entire pull. Tune seems pretty conservative and I am very happy with it so far. Exhaust sounds amazing.

Props to Ryan and the rest of the crew at Simple Performance SLC.
It looks like you don't make peak boost until 3.8k rpm. Typical tunes I've seen make boost at 3k rpm. Why is target boost showing 22psi?
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:07 AM   #2264
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Not sure about the Target Boost, that confused me as well. And peak boost that late could be because the Processwest FMIC is really big. I don't believe I've seen any FMIC builds on here that were PW. Mostly PRL which is quite small comparatively. I'm still doing some pulls and will call my tuner in a few days to double check everything is running okay.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:20 AM   #2265
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If you "hate" our tune, why haven't you reached out? I would be happy to refund you the $75 if you are not satisfied so you can put that towards a different tune.

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MAP 91 - FRN (final revision?) map/ ACN 91 fuel

https://datazap.me/u/lagger1/3rd-gea...10-11-13-19-23

Need to be at 50% throttle just to get into boost during normal day-to-day driving. Need 75% throttle to even justify the tune honestly. Dropped 4-5mpg's across the board.

Hate it. Went back to stock.

Suggestions on a nice low-rpm torque e-tune? Looks like I can't afford Ron anymore. Leaning towards Bren since it looks like they actually have some timing. Is Clark similar?

Thanks
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:34 AM   #2266
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If you "hate" our tune, why haven't you reached out? I would be happy to refund you the $75 if you are not satisfied so you can put that towards a different tune.


Sounds like he’s not aware that that most tuners make the throttle mapping linear unless otherwise requested, unlike stock mapping. Confusing that with lack of power.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:36 AM   #2267
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Most likely. Not the first person to complain about our linear throttle. Totally fine. I know our tunes are still "OTS", and not EVERYONE is going to love them. But still want to take care of the customer either way.

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Sounds like he’s not aware that that most tuners make the throttle mapping linear unless otherwise requested, unlike stock mapping. Confusing that with lack of power.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:04 PM   #2268
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Sounds like he’s not aware that that most tuners make the throttle mapping linear unless otherwise requested, unlike stock mapping. Confusing that with lack of power.
Mmm, not confusing the throttle pedal with lack of power. 2 different issues. Ive ran MAP's ots tune on my Mk7 Gti for well over a year along with JB4+Cobb tunes on various platforms.

I'm familiar. Still stand by what I wrote.

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Most likely. Not the first person to complain about our linear throttle. Totally fine. I know our tunes are still "OTS", and not EVERYONE is going to love them. But still want to take care of the customer either way.
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Old 07-16-2018, 12:42 PM   #2269
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Most likely. Not the first person to complain about our linear throttle. Totally fine. I know our tunes are still "OTS", and not EVERYONE is going to love them. But still want to take care of the customer either way.
Just a follow-up on this, MAP customer service really stepped-up and delivered what I asked for.

A+ for MAP customer service & keeping customer happy. Thanks gents!
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:37 PM   #2270
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I still can t understand why anyone would not want liner throttle input. How far in you put your foot, the more throttle.... Subaru OEM input is , put your foot in and guess how much throttle the car is getting??? I guess it makes for an exciting ride, LOL.
To each his own.
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:40 PM   #2271
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Just finalized my etune and here is a log from that run:

https://datazap.me/u/nickmcc/4th-gea...2&data=8-28-30

Year - 2018
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Model - WRX
Trans - 6MT
Fuel - Shell V-Power 93 Octane

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Grimmspeed catted J-pipe
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Old 07-16-2018, 06:39 PM   #2272
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I still can t understand why anyone would not want liner throttle input. How far in you put your foot, the more throttle.... Subaru OEM input is , put your foot in and guess how much throttle the car is getting??? I guess it makes for an exciting ride, LOL.
To each his own.
I like torque, just like anyone else. Drive-ability around town counts. Like why Subaru or BMW or anybody actually uses a twin-scroll turbocharger, for low-rpm grunt.

The MAP tune made power no doubt about it, but it had some drawbacks. My new MAP tunes makes more

If you're good with the Cobb OTS tune, cool. But I don't think its doing you any favors based on your logs, or at least that tank. You had a few corrections.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:30 AM   #2273
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I like torque, just like anyone else. Drive-ability around town counts. Like why Subaru or BMW or anybody actually uses a twin-scroll turbocharger, for low-rpm grunt.

The MAP tune made power no doubt about it, but it had some drawbacks. My new MAP tunes makes more

If you're good with the Cobb OTS tune, cool. But I don't think its doing you any favors based on your logs, or at least that tank. You had a few corrections.
Funny you mentioned that, I ve had to start using 93 (when I can get it) on my 91 tune. Maybe the heat too? That was a 91 log. I should run a new one.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:26 AM   #2274
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MAP is doing revisions? Thats news to me.
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Old 07-17-2018, 10:15 AM   #2275
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Just finalized my etune and here is a log from that run:

https://datazap.me/u/nickmcc/4th-gea...2&data=8-28-30

Year - 2018
Make - Subaru
Model - WRX
Trans - 6MT
Fuel - Shell V-Power 93 Octane

Mods:
Grimmspeed catted J-pipe
Grimmspeed TMIC
Grimmspeed 3 port EBCS
Perrin Charge Pipe
TGV/EGR deletes
Invidia N1 dual exit catback
Looks pretty lean at beginning compared to what the map wants. Also pushing 21-22 lbs of boost with the stock turbo is a bit aggressive. Take my input with a grain of salt though, still learning.
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