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Old 11-17-2022, 06:06 PM   #126
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I came back for the disappointment. It's here. Alive and well.


Funny though, this car looks worlds better than the wrx.
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:21 PM   #127
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Funny though, this car looks worlds better than the wrx.
Subaru can literally only do 90% of anything right. The only reason the BRZ is 100% right is because of Toyota.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:02 PM   #128
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This is a great package but auto only sucks .
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:29 PM   #129
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Subaru can literally only do 90% of anything right. The only reason the BRZ is 100% right is because of Toyota.
I dunno, they could drop the 3banger in from the GRY/GRC into the BRZ and boy would they have a hit on their hands.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:50 PM   #130
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Why would anyone buy this over a Crosstrek?

Also, why canít the WRX look like this?

This company needs proper leadership ASAP.

Also that intro by Bucky was cringe AF.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:59 PM   #131
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This feels very reminiscent of what Happened to Mitsubishi.. no?
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:21 PM   #132
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I dunno, they could drop the 3banger in from the GRY/GRC into the BRZ and boy would they have a hit on their hands.
If Toyota does this, the GT86 will become interesting to me.
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:24 PM   #133
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Auto 2.5RS

let me go drink some poison. Nothing Subaru cannot screw up.
My 01 2.5 RS coupe was an auto...

The real tragedy is that this 2024 RS lost the hand brake in favor of an electronic brake. Sad day indeed.

If my Impreza blew up tomorrow, I'd probably get this car since it pretty much upgraded everything that I enjoy about my current Impreza. But as it is it's just not enough to trade while my Impreza runs and drives well.
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:44 PM   #134
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I dunno, they could drop the 3banger in from the GRY/GRC into the BRZ and boy would they have a hit on their hands.
They already have a hit. That factory is at 100% production and 100% of the cars are pre sold or sell immediately in every market (minus the auto GR86's the dumbass Toyota dealers are ordering). Several markets even have huge waiting lists still and can't get any cars to satisfy demand.

They have no reason to change the drivetrain now.
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Old 11-17-2022, 10:34 PM   #135
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My 01 2.5 RS coupe was an auto...

The real tragedy is that this 2024 RS lost the hand brake in favor of an electronic brake. Sad day indeed.

If my Impreza blew up tomorrow, I'd probably get this car since it pretty much upgraded everything that I enjoy about my current Impreza. But as it is it's just not enough to trade while my Impreza runs and drives well.




sold it









poor creampuff. warm load of regret.
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Old 11-17-2022, 11:36 PM   #136
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sold it





poor creampuff. warm load of regret.
So fresh and so clean-clean !
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Old 11-17-2022, 11:36 PM   #137
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When they put the 2.5 in the lifted Impreza, I mean Crosstrek, I think I mentioned it will be coming in the Impreza a long time ago, because it already fits. I'll have to find the post.

Not shocked. Would love to have some kind of turbo and performance to back it up.

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Old 11-18-2022, 09:12 AM   #138
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Not for nothing, but my '17 Impreza Sport handles 10x better than my '99 2.5RS did. Just doesn't have the same power/torque, but handling? I can take corners 5-10mph faster than I ever could in the RS, even with the right tires (and I have all weather Vredesteins on my Imp).
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How do you like the Vredsteins? I see them a lot for winter tires. I'm just concerned with an Indian tire company who owns an old Dutch name.
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Never heard of them until now. Looks like some interesting tread designs. I went with Michelin Cross Climate 2 A/S tires after Engineering Explained did a whole video review of them. I've been very satisfied with them. I had 17" tires on my 2011 WRX wheels that I used for a cross-country road trip last year, then I went down to one set of wheels and got 18" CC2s in Spring of this year.

They obviously don't have the aggressive grip as Continental Extreme Contact tires that I typically get for the summer, but I recently took them up to New Hampshire around Mt. Washington and White Mountain and they gripped very well. I think it's Bear Mountain Rd that has lots of twisties and blind corners. My buddy was following me in his GT-R and he was impressed with how composed the Impreza was. I'm also riding on BC Racing coilovers and they were set to maximum stiffness at that time.
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Solid tire so far with no issues. Put them on a couple years ago, but haven't had to go driving in the snow because WFH. Now, I'm in the office, so should have a good impression on them in the winter time driving. IN the wet? The siping is fantastic.

In summer, they have been good. Not the quietest due to the sorta aggressive tread pattern, but very grippy. I haven't done any autoxing on them, so I haven't heard them at their limit, meaning I also haven't heard them make a peep when pushing them either. May be a tire that they only make a sound when you're over the limit and it's too late, but I don't know because I haven't been there either. But like I said, I can take corners better in this car than the 2.5rS, that is probably because of the active torque vectoring, along with actually having TC/SC too... but it just goes and sticks.
Given our previous conversation that I chose to intercede (), I thought you two would appreciate the data points of tires that include Vredesteins and CrossClimate 2.


KC and I both live in Mass and rock different A/S tires. I find it to be mostly wet here, especially compared to icy and snowy Alaska. So I'd probably be better off with the Vredesteins. Maybe I'll give them a try next year, although I do like the look of the Cross Climate 2 tires.
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Old 11-18-2022, 09:50 AM   #139
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Why would anyone buy this over a Crosstrek?

Also, why canít the WRX look like this?

This company needs proper leadership ASAP.

Also that intro by Bucky was cringe AF.
Because not everyone needs (few actually do) 220mm of ground clearance
Because (IMHO) the RS actually looks better / more elegant
Because it'll have marginally better performance figures (0-60 + skidpad)
Because it'll have better fuel economy

The compact cladded SUV is all the hype now, but it's not unanimously loved, and there still *is* a market for practical, compact hatchbakcs which stick to the tarmac and are fun to drive. Had it been out with a 6MT,, or had it been a WRX I would have seriously considered it. Sigh.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:13 AM   #140
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Given our previous conversation that I chose to intercede (), I thought you two would appreciate the data points of tires that include Vredesteins and CrossClimate 2.

http://youtu.be/8K8ThRGNaoM

KC and I both live in Mass and rock different A/S tires. I find it to be mostly wet here, especially compared to icy and snowy Alaska. So I'd probably be better off with the Vredesteins. Maybe I'll give them a try next year, although I do like the look of the Cross Climate 2 tires.
Thanks. Even on Long Island I use winter tires on our cars. It is dry 99% of the time, but I prefer knowing we are ready for anything. My buddy in his X3M w/ A/S had a terrible time up a snowy incline driveway in Killington last year. The MY w/ winter tires was a champ.
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Old 11-18-2022, 11:22 AM   #141
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When they put the 2.5 in the lifted Impreza, I mean Crosstrek, I think I mentioned it will be coming in the Impreza a long time ago, because it already fits. I'll have to find the post.

Not shocked. Would love to have some kind of turbo and performance to back it up.

IBHowDoILiftMyImpreza-YouShouldaBoughtACrosstrekToStartWith.
It has the steering rack from the WRX, so it's slowly getting its parts.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:49 PM   #142
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Old 11-18-2022, 07:34 PM   #143
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Thanks. Even on Long Island I use winter tires on our cars. It is dry 99% of the time, but I prefer knowing we are ready for anything. My buddy in his X3M w/ A/S had a terrible time up a snowy incline driveway in Killington last year. The MY w/ winter tires was a champ.
I swapped over to running Nokian WR G4's year round. I'm interested to see how well they're going to perform as they get older but they were killer for the first two winter seasons I've had them. Not quite as good as a dedicated snow tire, but so much better than an all season.
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Nice to see the RS is back. I'm sure whatever potential Impreza buyers remain will want more power as the 2.0 is the most gutless engine on earth. But realistically, I don't see them selling many of these. People who drive in snow will want the crosstrek for ground clearance. Everyone else will want an EX civic hatch for similar money that will be faster, get better fuel economy, and will probably have a higher quality interior.
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:13 AM   #146
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poor creampuff. warm load of regret.
thats why i still have mine
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Old 11-19-2022, 01:17 PM   #147
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Another MT bites the dust. Likely to be the same for the Crosstrek.
Well, if it were paired with the 2.5L I bet that the take rate would be higher.
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Old 11-19-2022, 07:03 PM   #148
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I swapped over to running Nokian WR G4's year round. I'm interested to see how well they're going to perform as they get older but they were killer for the first two winter seasons I've had them. Not quite as good as a dedicated snow tire, but so much better than an all season.
Same with the Vreds I bet.
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Old 11-21-2022, 07:44 AM   #149
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I swapped over to running Nokian WR G4's year round. I'm interested to see how well they're going to perform as they get older but they were killer for the first two winter seasons I've had them. Not quite as good as a dedicated snow tire, but so much better than an all season.
We did that for our Outback, and some earlier Nokian WRs for the 2002 WRX. They were good throughout their life.
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