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Old 09-15-2011, 04:22 PM   #1
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Are you supposed to see anything but the bead? I have a cheap HF helmet and can't see the line/cut i'm trying to follow. Is it a helmet issue or is it normal and I need more practice?
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Old 09-15-2011, 05:31 PM   #2
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you should be able to see everything important, I can't explain much better than that.

If you are serious you can get a nice speedglas
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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I can see literally 1mm in front of the bread. Because of this, I tend to go off course a lot. So do I need more practice in going straight or better equipment.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:01 PM   #4
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Better equipment.

I use an Optrel Satellite and love it.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:03 PM   #5
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you might have the wrong shade by some chance?
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:30 AM   #6
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Better equipment.

I use an Optrel Satellite and love it.
Im thinking of getting another helmet and probably gonna get an optrel e680 in snow white because im such a princess
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:01 AM   #7
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HF helmet has a really dark #11 if i remember right. Find a #9 or #10 shade and it will make a world of a difference. Or a good helmet with variable shades.
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:21 PM   #8
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Thanks for the advice guys, had it on 10, changed it to 9 and it helped a bit. I read that you should have it set to an 8 for mig welding, but the HF helmet only goes to a 9... any thoughts on the lowes kobalt helment? Not going pro any time soon, just wanna get through this project
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:20 PM   #9
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#8 shade is really light. I normally weld on a #10 if you go real light you are going to burn your eyes. Are you Mig welding or Tig, Also what are you welding. that will help on trying to figure out what you should be using. it takes a little bit of time to get used to it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:19 AM   #10
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Thanks for the advice guys, had it on 10, changed it to 9 and it helped a bit. I read that you should have it set to an 8 for mig welding, but the HF helmet only goes to a 9... any thoughts on the lowes kobalt helment? Not going pro any time soon, just wanna get through this project
Get an auto dimming helmet. Unless your work area is lit up very,very well it makes things 10x easier. I'm like you,a hobbyist,but the money was well worth it as it makes things much easier and less mistakes.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:23 PM   #11
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I have a HF #11 auto-dimmer and I can see everything. Not MIG/TIG though. So far only arc-fed.

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Old 10-07-2011, 06:56 PM   #12
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Better equipment.

I use an Optrel Satellite and love it.
X2 for Optrel Satelite. Had mine since 05 with heavy use and still working great.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:55 PM   #13
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+1 on the $50 adjustable HF auto-dimming helmet. I've used mine for both arc & mig. Works great and was a night-and-day (sorry about the pun) improvement over blind pecking a welding rod with my dark welding goggles.

I'm a complete cheap-o...and even I think it was DEFINITELY money well spent.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:08 PM   #14
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try leaving a strong flash light pointed at your work if your having a hard time seeing, that's what I did before upgrading my mask to one that is variable
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:44 PM   #15
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i recomend a snap on or miller helmet, a bit higher priced than some but if you think you might weld more than say.... ONCE spend the money its worth it!
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OK, older thread, but......

Shop I work PT at just bought an inexpensive MIG unit. I have an older "buzz box" stick welder to use (free).
Also do some gas welding, cutting and grinding.

This is all occasional use, not full time, willing to upgrade down the road if use gets higher.

Just bought this......https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1.... any comments on the range it covers? Likely better than what I use, lower price point so not out a lot of cash.

I have only ever used goggles (gas weld and cut) or fixed tint lens helmet for stick welding.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:35 AM   #17
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well the tint range is 9-13, so 'technically' it will cover anything.
I weld aluminum regularly up to 280 amp alternating frequency, which is about as hot as it gets and I never go over 11.
Nobody uses 13 anymore unless you are stick welding a submarine hull.

I said 'technically' above because $45 is darn cheap for an auto darkening helmet. My experience with cheap ones is that they suck and don't darken properly. Now this is cheap ones from a decade ago, so maybe they've gotten better but personally I don't trust the cheap ones.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:36 AM   #18
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well the tint range is 9-13, so 'technically' it will cover anything.
I weld aluminum regularly up to 280 amp alternating frequency, which is about as hot as it gets and I never go over 11.
Nobody uses 13 anymore unless you are stick welding a submarine hull.

I said 'technically' above because $45 is darn cheap for an auto darkening helmet. My experience with cheap ones is that they suck and don't darken properly. Now this is cheap ones from a decade ago, so maybe they've gotten better but personally I don't trust the cheap ones.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, electronics have come down in price over the years, but this is also short term use, I can always get better if I do a lot more welding.
Should be here before lunch, so it will get tried soon.
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