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Old 04-29-2021, 01:33 PM   #1
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Lotus is in the process of phasing out its Elise, Exige and Evora sports cars, and plans a new mid-engine model called the Emira that will replace all three of them. The car was previously referred to by its Type 131 code name.

Lotus on Tuesday released the first details on the Emira and confirmed the reveal for July 6. Sales won't start until 2022, meaning we'll likely see the Emira reach dealerships as a 2023 model. The good news is that the car will be sold in the United States, unlike many of Lotus' previous sports cars.

2023 Lotus Emira test mule spy shots - Photo credit: S. Baldauf/SB-Medien

2023 Lotus Emira test mule spy shots - Photo credit: S. Baldauf/SB-Medien

These spy shots shows a test mule for the Emira. You're essentially looking at the new mechanical package hidden beneath a makeshift Evora body. We can see that the wheel arches front and rear have been extended significantly, pointing to a widened track.

Teaser shots point to a design heavily influenced by the Evija electric hypercar. The first prototypes wearing the Emira's actual body should show up following the July 6 reveal.

Teaser for Lotus Emira due in 2022

Teaser for Lotus Emira due in 2022

Teaser for Lotus Emira due in 2022

Teaser for Lotus Emira due in 2022

The new mechanical package is a heavily revised version of the extruded and bonded aluminum platform that dates back to the original Elise launched in 1996. The platform in updated form is referred to as Elemental. Key changes include thinner door sills to make getting in and out of the car easier. Contrary to previous rumors, there won't be any support for electrification.

There will be multiple versions of the Emira, with both inline-4 and V-6 engines planned. The inline-4 will be a new unit but the V-6 is expected to be the Toyota-sourced 3.5-liter supercharged engine used in the Exige and Evora, which in its highest state of tune delivers about 430 hp. The inline-4 is expected to deliver about 300 hp.

2023 Lotus Emira test mule spy shots - Photo credit: S. Baldauf/SB-Medien

2023 Lotus Emira test mule spy shots - Photo credit: S. Baldauf/SB-Medien

As for pricing, former Lotus CEO Phil Popham in January said the car will have a wide price range to help boost its appeal, particularly here in the U.S. He hinted at a starting price of about 55,000 British pounds (approximately $75,000) and a top-end figure of about 105,000 British pounds. The only Lotus currently available here is the Evora which starts at just under $100,000.

Crucially, the Emira will be the last Lotus fitted with an internal-combustion engine as the company plans an electric future. New CEO Matt Windle previously worked with Tesla for a handful of years on developing the original Roadster, which some readers will recall was based on a donor Lotus chassis.

Lotus Evija prototype

Lotus Evija prototype

Lotus already has the limited-edition Evija coming later this year. The company is also working on a new platform called E-Sport designed for more attainable electric sports cars.

Beyond its sports car lineup, Lotus will offer what it refers to as lifestyle vehicles. The first of these is expected to be a crossover. It will be based on another new platform known as Evolution. This platform is thought to be related to the SEA platform from parent company Geely.
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Old 04-29-2021, 02:28 PM   #2
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well in all fairness, for as long as I can recall Lotus has been a chassis manufacturer, not an engine developer. I would think this kinda makes sense.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:45 PM   #3
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well in all fairness, for as long as I can recall Lotus has been a chassis manufacturer, not an engine developer. I would think this kinda makes sense.
For the most part you're correct, but Lotus has developed thier own engines. See 900 series for reference. I agree with you though, that it makes sense. Let Lotus do what they do best, and let others front development costs for engines. Lotus will be HEAVILY involved in the tuning anyway.
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Old 04-29-2021, 05:55 PM   #4
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You would have to be crazy to buy this new versus something of similar price from a competitor. It looks like a 2005 kit car, not a 2020 mainstream sports car.
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Heavy ass EV and lifestyle CUV's... The only good news about this is Chapman is probably spinning so fast in his grave that he could single handedly power this EV future.
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You would have to be crazy to buy this new versus something of similar price from a competitor. It looks like a 2005 kit car, not a 2020 mainstream sports car.
Are you referring to the orange car? That is a mule using Evora panels. This is the teaser for the Emira:


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Zzzzz. I would opt for the Cayman.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:34 PM   #8
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It looks like a 2005 kit car, not a 2020 mainstream sports car.
It's a testing mule... the 131 is under the "fake" Evora body with fender flares.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:53 PM   #9
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This should be interesting. If Lotus would have changed the bodywork on the last rendition of the Evora (specifically the front clip) and changed the name they would have sold significantly more cars.

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For the most part you're correct, but Lotus has developed thier own engines. See 900 series for reference. I agree with you though, that it makes sense. Let Lotus do what they do best, and let others front development costs for engines. Lotus will be HEAVILY involved in the tuning anyway.
The last Lotus developed motor died 20 years ago.
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This should be interesting. If Lotus would have changed the bodywork on the last rendition of the Evora (specifically the front clip) and changed the name they would have sold significantly more cars.


The last Lotus developed motor died 20 years ago.
I don' think I suggested otherwise... It died with the Esprit in 2001.
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Heavy ass EV and lifestyle CUV's... The only good news about this is Chapman is probably spinning so fast in his grave that he could single handedly power this EV future.


The Evija weighs 3,700lbs. That's pretty much what a Ferrari Portofino weighs.. except the Lotus produces nearly 4x as much power.

Chapman wasn't an idiot and would understand the simplicity and benefits of being the first manufacturer to make proper sports cars and supercars with electric drivetrains.
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Disagree. Chapman would not ever make a heavy car. EV or not. BUT having said that, to get around it he would happily make you an EV but it would run out of juice completely the second you got to work 8 miles away. But hey the battery would only weigh 25 lbs.

Add Lightness, always. Practicality? That is for other manufacturers to worry about. Its the Lotus way.
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I still remember seeing one of the first Tesla roadsters based on the Elise rolling around Seattle back in like 08 or 09? Didn't really know about Tesla at the time and thought Lotus made an electric car, until I looked it up. Interesting to think that the days of Lotus ICE are numbered...
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Last combustion-powered mid-engine Lotus unwrapped, is all-new from the ground up, gets 2.0-litre turbo and supercharged V6

The all-new 2021 Lotus Emira has been unveiled early this morning at the car-makerís Hethel HQ in the UK.

The headline news is the replacement for the ancient Elise, Exige and Evora gets the option of either an AMG-sourced M139 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder from the AMG A 45 S that produces around 265kW or an even more powerful 294kW supercharged 3.5-litre V6 sourced from Toyota.



The AMG four-pot comes equipped with a dual-clutch transmission, while the supercharged V6 gets the option of either a six-speed manual or a full automatic transmission.

Created to rival both the Alpine A110 and the Porsche 718 Cayman, the Emira measures in at 4412mm long, 1895mm wide and 1225mm tall Ė dimensions that dwarf the Elise and Exige and, even, the largest Evora.

With the more generous proportions weight has also increased with the new fibreglass-bodied Emira, that sits on an all-new bonded aluminium structure, tipping the scales at 1405kg for the lightest version.
Full performance details have yet to be released, but Emira with the 2.0-litre turbo AMG donk is claimed to accelerate from 0-62mph in less than 4.5 seconds and top out at 290km/h.



Featuring advanced aerodynamics developed while creating the pure-electric Evija, the Emira sports boasts looks clearly inspired by the multi-million-dollar hypercar, including its slimline headlamps.

Claimed to be the best-handling Lotus of all time, the rear-wheel drive Emira follows McLaren by shunning electric power steering for a traditional hydraulic steering rack for better feel.



Inside, the small Lotus gets a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster thatís joined by a 10.25-inch infotainment system that offers Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.
Bootspace is limited to a small 151-litre storage space behind the engine thatís claimed to be big enough for a set of golf clubs.



The list of new tech (for Lotus) is long. Thereís adaptive cruise control, 12-way electric seats, auto lamps and wipers, front and rear parking sensors, electric folding mirrors and even curtain airbags.
New options include a Lotus Drivers Pack that adds launch control.



Thereís also a stiffer suspension and more aggressive Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s offered on 20-inch rims.
On sale in Q3 2022, in the UK Lotus has announced that prices will begin at £60,000 ($A110,000.)
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Lightweight, manual trans, hydraulic steering rack, mid engine, and drop dead looks.

Please take my money..
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O yeah me wants..too
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Please take my money..
Lightweight?

That's 300kg more than the Alpine. Almost 600 more than and Alfa 4C.

Lightweight?
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Looks like a baby Ferrari Pista. AMG Turbo 4 but only in DCT, well that blows.
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3,100lbs for the lightest version, I can only imagine how much the SCV6/MT version will weigh in at; remember when Lotus made light cars?
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Total stunner. Best part is that the base car gets the best engine and transmission.
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3,100lbs for the lightest version, I can only imagine how much the SCV6/MT version will weigh in at; remember when Lotus made light cars?
Yep. Also remember that few people bought them because the kit car interiors that were laughable at their price point. The people that have the money to buy these cars want a livable interior and if you are going to try to go head to head with a Cayman you need to make sure the interior is more than an afterthought.
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I feel bad for lotus. They have some wonderful cars that are really hard to justify.

Most rational people would choose a cayman over this (and the evora prior). Its really hard to out do Porsche at their finest.

Ultra light sports cars don't really make any sense. I say this as a decade long exige owner.

I really wish they could find a niche of minimalist but high quality sports car. The v6 exige seems so amazing. If they could keep it 2600-2800lbs but up the quality of plastics, lower the sills a bit, give the HVAC a bit more useful, etc. If they went up to 2800lbs they would have 300lbs to work with. They don't need more conveniences just better quality versions
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This is Lotus' first real shot at a market share in this segment (718 & C8).
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last ICE Lotus Emira will come to the US: proof around the 5.15 mark

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Yep. Also remember that few people bought them because the kit car interiors that were laughable at their price point. The people that have the money to buy these cars want a livable interior and if you are going to try to go head to head with a Cayman you need to make sure the interior is more than an afterthought.
Don't get me wrong, it's more a complaint about the industry as a whole, I make it pretty much regardless of manufacturer (although it resonates more with Lotus more, as that was a defining characteristic of the marque); Lotus is taking it on the chin this time - everything is heavy, and it bothers me (and others, but we're clearly the minority).

This car looks really nice, it's a more compelling option in my mind than a Vette because a manual is offered, and more compelling than a Cayman simply because it looks better (subjective), is different, and gets DWB at all four corners. The "it isn't just another Vette or Porsche" argument carries weight for certain people, especially the people that won't look at a Cayman as long as a 911 exists (even though it's a very different price category). The Alpine isn't available in the US, so I've not bothered making a comparisons to that car.
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