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Old 05-20-2019, 07:26 AM   #1
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The next-generation Genesis G80 sedan will no longer offer a V-8 engine, and the company will eventually phase out its Tau 5.0-liter V-8 entirely.

Currently, the V-8 is found in the G80 and G90 sedans; the G90 will continue to offer it for a few more years.

Expect to see the redesigned G80 debut this September with a turbocharged V-6 as its top engine option.

Hyundai’s premium brand Genesis will eventually drop the Tau V-8 engine that’s currently offered both on the G80 and G90 sedans. The G80 (pictured below), a car that started its career as the second-gen Hyundai Genesis and was renamed the Genesis G80 for the 2017 model year, will get a complete makeover and drop the engine next year. "The G80 range will be topped off by the V-6," Genesis CEO Manfred Fitzgerald told Car and Driver.

"We will have a brand-new G80 coming out this September in Korea and subsequently on global markets. With that car, you will see the next evolution of our design language," he added. The vehicle is expected to stand out from its competitors with futuristic details and proportions. While we previously speculated that the closely related upcoming Genesis GV80 SUV would offer the 5.0-liter V-8 as an option, it now sounds like that won't happen.

The G90, on the other hand, has just received an extensive facelift and is expected to keep the Tau V-8 for a few more years. The updated version of the car is already sold in Korea with that legacy V-8 engine, a naturally aspirated 5.0-liter V-8 rated at 420 horsepower.

But once that version of the engine is phased out, that’s it: The Tau engine won't be upgraded with turbocharging or similar, according to Fitzgerald. "We really have to pay close attention to markets and legislation and hedge our bets. Don't expect another evolution of the V-8."
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:18 AM   #2
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Drop the V8 into the G70 with a manual for the very few of us who would really like it
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The next chapter in Genesis' model line overhaul is nearly here. Following the debut of the GV80 SUV in January, the Korean automaker showed the first images of the new G80 sedan on Wednesday, and my goodness, it's a looker.

There's a clear visual link between this new G80 and its siblings, the GV80 SUV and G90 sedan. Two-line running lights flank either side of the large crest grille, and carry on along the body sides, illuminated just aft of the front wheels. The G80 has a long, fastback silhouette -- not unlike the gorgeous Audi A7 -- ending with a short deck with another pair of slim, two-line LED lights. The car seen here rides on 20-inch wheels with a relatively simple yet elegant five-spoke design.

Moving inside, the G80 takes a lot of cues from the GV80, mostly in the minimalist design. A thin line of air vents cuts between the handsome dash and tier of what looks like open-pore wood, with neatly organized climate controls below. The center console is just like the one you'll find in the GV80, with an electronic gear selector and controller for the infotainment system. Speaking of which, the multimedia screen is huge, spanning 14.5 inches, and neatly set back on the dash.


Elegant wood, blue leather and a 14.5-inch infotainment screen. Love it.
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If our time in the GV80 is anything to go by, the G80's cabin should be nothing short of luxurious, with creative uses of colors and materials. Every detail, from the stitching on the seats to the knurling of the dials on the steering wheel, looks absolutely fantastic.

Genesis has yet to reveal any mechanical details about the G80, but we know it'll ride on a new, rear-wheel-drive platform shared with the GV80. It'll likely get a lot of the new driver-assistance technologies found on the GV80, including machine learning for the adaptive cruise control and active road noise cancellation. We bet it'll get the SUV's 2.5-liter and 3.5-liter turbocharged engines, as well.

Genesis says the G80 will officially debut this month, so it won't be long before we have the final details. It'll also likely make its North American premiere at the New York Auto Show in April -- assuming the event isn't canceled like the Geneva Motor Show, anyway.

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Everything But The Grille. That's something Hyundai should not have learned from BMW and Audi.
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The all-new Genesis G80 sedan has been unveiled via a digital press conference streamed around the world.

Bringing striking new styling, new technology and more safety, while drawing power from a range of engines within the Hyundai group, the redesigned large luxury sedan is due to arrive in Australian showrooms in the third quarter of this year.

Sitting on a third-generation rear-wheel drive platform said to be “exclusive” to Genesis, the new G80 is claimed to be up to 125kg lighter than the vehicle it replaces. The new model is 4995mm long, 1925mm wide and 1465mm high.

The Genesis G80 will be available in a choice of three powertrains globally: a 223kW/421Nm 2.5-litre turbo-petrol four-cylinder, a 279kW/530Nm 3.5-litre turbo-petrol V6 and 154kW/441Nm 2.2-litre turbo-diesel four-cylinder.

On-road refinement has been purportedly improved courtesy of additional sound insulation, electronically controlled suspension and a road preview system that uses the car’s front camera to prime the suspension for upcoming obstacles.



The 2021 Genesis G80 sets out to truly pamper its occupants with new convenience features including a remote smart parking assistant that remote drives/reverses in narrow spaces, Home Connect functionality and a Valet mode that enhances vehicle security.

On the safety front, the Genesis G80 scores the latest round of technologies, such as Highway Driving Assist II, Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning, Pre-active Safety Seat, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist and Blind-Spot Collision Avoidance Assist. This is on top of 10 airbags.

Balancing what designers call athletic and elegant characteristics, the 2021 Genesis G80 features a new quad-lamp aesthetic that is familiar with the GV80 large SUV.

A similar theme transcends the tail-lights at the rear, complemented by tapered lines with no shortage of chrome work. Twenty-inch wheels complete the G80’s sleek look.



Inside, the G80 features thin air-vents that run across the width of the cabin, sitting atop a centre fascia with minimal buttons and switchgear.

Instead, navigating the G80’s features is done via a trio of screens comprising a head-up display, 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster and large 14.5-inch centre infotainment screen – the latter operated via touch, a centre rotary dial, touch-and-write commands or voice commands.

In terms of proportions, the G80’s headroom and legroom numbers have both increased by lowering the seating height of the second row.
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Not sure how much that thing costs, but why not just get the real deal.. the Benz. No sense explaining to neighbors why you went with a pricy Hyundai. cause cheap? Well then, makes no sense showing off that you're empty inside.
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If the rest of their lineup is anything to go by, it'll start ~$5k cheaper than the equivalent BMW / Merc and have more power and more features for the money. Whether or not the materials and build quality is there remains to be seen, but a lot of consumers don't notice or appreciate that sort of thing - it's all about the wow factor.
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Not sure how much that thing costs, but why not just get the real deal.. the Benz. No sense explaining to neighbors why you went with a pricy Hyundai. cause cheap? Well then, makes no sense showing off that you're empty inside.
There are certain people, certain jobs, that showing up in a Benz/BMW etc... becomes "they get paid too much". Showing up in a "glorified Hyundai" doesn't carry the same cachet and that's a good thing.

Same reason I had the Chevy SS, vs a Volvo or Mercedes, etc... I don't *want* that image.

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There are certain people, certain jobs, that showing up in a Benz/BMW etc... becomes "they get paid too much". Showing up in a "glorified Hyundai" doesn't carry the same cachet and that's a good thing.

Same reason I had the Chevy SS, vs a Volvo or Mercedes, etc... I don't *want* that image.

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They actually make cars for that demographic.. like a Sonata with smart park. No one will care besides the auto park coolness.
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Not sure how much that thing costs, but why not just get the real deal.. the Benz. No sense explaining to neighbors why you went with a pricy Hyundai. cause cheap? Well then, makes no sense showing off that you're empty inside.
They aren’t for me but I kind of hope Genesis has some moderate success if only to push the Germans to up their games and sharpen their pencils.
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There are certain people, certain jobs, that showing up in a Benz/BMW etc... becomes "they get paid too much". Showing up in a "glorified Hyundai" doesn't carry the same cachet and that's a good thing.

Same reason I had the Chevy SS, vs a Volvo or Mercedes, etc... I don't *want* that image.

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Related unrelated - just prior to covid/while it was just getting started, I was out at the cape, parked on the street to do a little shopping, when I got out of my car a (suspected) homeless person appeared out of the alley and asked me for money, I didn't have any cash on me, as I rarely do, and I told him as much. I can't say that I saw him "key" my car, but when I walked out of the shop a few mins later there was damage on the curbside of my car (passenger side) so either he did it, or a ghost did because the cape was pretty deserted by this time.

Perception that I have money to spare because I drive a (used) Lexus, when in reality I just wanted a RWD Camry.
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If I were in the market for a luxury barge brand new, I would rather own a Genesis over a MB solely for the lack of cache and more bang and features for the buck. Both will depreciate like a rock anyways. I don't care how my neighbors feel about what I buy. At least the Genesis probably has features that should be standard from the start in this luxury market. Nothing says "luxury" like getting a badge car that doesn't have features that a $30k car has.
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If I were in the market for a luxury barge brand new, I would rather own a Genesis over a MB solely for the lack of cache and more bang and features for the buck. Both will depreciate like a rock anyways. I don't care how my neighbors feel about what I buy. At least the Genesis probably has features that should be standard from the start in this luxury market. Nothing says "luxury" like getting a badge car that doesn't have features that a $30k car has.
And Genesis has that 5y/60K basic warranty, 10y/100K powertrain warranty and FREE maintenance. Frankly, it's hard to beat. Screw the neighbors.
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Yeah I can agree to that as they do want folks to buy their entry vehicles so that when they are successful career folks, they can buy their core product.

Did the Germans sharpen their pencils when Infiniti and Lexus unleashed their line up? I don't know maybe they did, probably didn't care what Acura brought to the table besides for comedy..
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Yeah I can agree to that as they do want folks to buy their entry vehicles so that when they are successful career folks, they can buy their core product.

Did the Germans sharpen their pencils when Infiniti and Lexus unleashed their line up? I don't know maybe they did, probably didn't care what Acura brought to the table besides for comedy..
I don't think the German's sharpened their pencils much. The only thing they really did was offer more entry level offerings to get people to consider/keep their brand where the Japanese luxury brands were undercutting them in price on entry level products. The Koreans are now doing it too but with more standard features. The German's still are not known for the best reliability and are greatly known to buckle and dime for every single feature.
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Its fast, handles well, rides well, does everything, and has been reliable.

I would 100% buy another one.
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