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11-06-2012, 08:35 AM | #51 | |
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Now, I have no idea if that's actually happened but it wouldn't surprise me. Magnesium is used as an alloying element or base metal in an alloy constantly, and you don't hear of magnesium fires very often, do you? No hardware stores with magnesium ladders going up in your neighborhood?
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11-06-2012, 10:55 AM | #52 | |
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11-13-2012, 12:51 PM | #53 |
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magnesium? are they kidding?
Would love to see the full composition report to see what metals they are adding to prevent corrosion from road salt. This sounds like a very bad idea... |
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11-14-2012, 03:06 PM | #58 | |
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Our Avalanche also has single-side galvanized sheetmetal, which you can't do to magnesium (I don't think) or aluminum. I just noticed rust starting to form on the car after >10 years of rarely washing it. If you can anodize magnesium like you can aluminum, I guess that would be something. Paint is BS. Piant gets chipped too easily and then rust happens rapidly. Not the way to go. Frank |
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I can't believe how much my car got destroyed by rust when I moved here. Don't want to bother with new/ish cars anymore honestly given how trashed they get from salt. Just wish people would learn to drive in the snow instead
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Honda tried this with the RA302
"Jo Schlesser, who had struggled all weekend with the new Honda, spun at Six Frères. Witnesses stated that they thought his engine had cut out, and the Frenchman was a passenger as his car slithered up the embankment, overturned, and burst into flames. Spectators near the incident suffered minor burns as the magnesium-built car burned fiercely, Schlesser stuck underneath. " |
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CN: modern racecars don't burn because no magnesium |
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Everyone's always ranting about this Darwin character and how they want cars to be lighter and more fun without concern for safety I say it's time to vote with your dollars.
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11-15-2012, 02:33 PM | #64 |
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Actually, his point does stand. Magnesium allows can rust *really* fast when exposed to salts, because the salt causes the oxide to flake like iron rust does. No road salt? not a problem. Those of us with salted roads have more to worry about. That said, It's been used in airplanes for decades and I'm sure there are things you can do. |
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If only there were some sort of protective coating that could be applied to the surface of a panel to protect it. Perhaps it could be some sort of liquid that could be sprayed on and then dry into a solid. They could even add some sort of pigment to allow a customer to select a hue for the panel to appear! |
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It's like you think no modern cars rust from regular driving on salted roads any more because they all have paint? Rust is like cancer: starts in ONE microscopic area and spreads like wildfire. |
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11-17-2012, 01:58 PM | #68 | |
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GM has a 6 year/100,000 mile corrosion warranty, they aren't going to screw themselves by putting rust-prone materials on cars. |
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Walking around the seattle auto show this weekend I found most of GM's offerings pretty boring. Same ****, bright paint job and fancy wording. While walking around the ford section, I can honestly say I poked around every single vehicle there.
It's obvious ford has their ish together and knows how to sell cars. |
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Chrysler and GM have always had the lead in advanced tech innovations of the US companies. |
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11-18-2012, 03:38 PM | #72 | |
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Ford has direct injection, turbocharging, full EVs, hybrids, automated manuals, active grilles, automatic parking, all the latest radar guided nonsense, etc. Chevy has...heavy cars? And the Volt. If you take away Fiat's new engines, Chrysler is stuck firmly in 1995. U wot m8? Ford is the only American automaker who seems to be innovating lately. Last edited by skywaffles; 11-18-2012 at 03:45 PM. |
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I have to agree with sky.
GM's designs are handsome don't get me wrong, but they leave a lot to be desired. Their marketing strategy is wholesome family oriented, borefest garbage. As a twenty something year old with a blank check, ford seems like the better fun-per-dollar choice. Even the f150 instrument cluster vs silverado is enough for me. (Speaking of which, hello new ecoboost F150 for christmas. ) This is coming from someone growing up with parents and family having owned nothing but GM vehicles. |
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All the car companies have DI, Turbo, active grilles, etc etc. They are all working on lighter cars since they are all heavy. |
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11-18-2012, 07:12 PM | #75 | |
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Ford bought hybrid tech from Toyota, and most of their other innovations were not engineered in house beyond bolting off-the-shelf parts together. GM had full EVs in the late 90s, onstar, night vision. These are things that never existed in the market. Look back to the 50s and you'll find a lot more true "firsts" by GM and Chrysler. Most of the crap was crap and broke, but still. Ford doesn't try. I'd still by a Ford over either of those two...none of them are innovating lately. |
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