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02-12-2013, 02:17 PM | #276 |
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Thanks for the advice on the trunk Matt, came out a lot better with both parts at a 45, also got a good deal on a new batch of paint, the paint guy was very cool about it, I asked if since they gave me the wrong data if they could help me out on the paint, and they gave it to me for nothing,(it was supposed to be enamel, they gave me urethane) and gave me half of on the hardener and reducer. the color match was damn good, the finish however came out pretty rough, orange peely. I think it may be time for a new gun, I've shooting through my old mans Sherwin Williams HVLP sprayer which I'm guessing only shoots at about 13 psi. Gonna try color sanding it tonite, hopefully i'll have pics up tomorrow. Thanks again for all the help!
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02-12-2013, 07:36 PM | #277 | |
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Am i going to get the shaft or is it possible to get a good paint job for cheap? Or does this sound about the going rate??? Thanks |
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02-12-2013, 08:16 PM | #278 | |
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If he is willing to spray it with the bumpers, lights, door handles, etc, still on the car I would avoid it. It could just be a painter looking to make a fast buck. Is this a side job he was going to take, or have other employees prep the car through the business? Is that including materials? Ultimately you get what you pay for. |
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02-12-2013, 08:25 PM | #279 | |
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02-12-2013, 08:30 PM | #280 |
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Im getting some $$ for some repairs from insurance so this is not a side job he is dealing with them for that. I asked instead of him getting all new oem parts and replacing how about i get/buy the fenders and what not myself bring everything to him and if so what would he charge to just paint the whole car the same color so it will look new.
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02-12-2013, 11:05 PM | #281 | |
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Yes this includes everything all materials. |
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02-13-2013, 07:23 AM | #282 |
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1300 for an exterior respray ?
That just sounds SKETCH. Check out his work, definitely ask about how he is going to spray it, leaving everything on the car is BOOTY and you will have problems later on with delamination from not getting everything prepped properly. Does your car have any bodywork that needs to be fixed ? if so that is even more crazy cheap. Just do your due diligence on the shop and the guy, ask what kind of materials he's using, removal and installation of things, if you can remove the stuff to make sure its prepped and sprayed correctly,turn around time etc etc. |
02-13-2013, 10:04 AM | #283 | |
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02-13-2013, 10:08 AM | #284 | |
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If there is rust check out this thread of mine: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2245842 |
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02-13-2013, 10:16 AM | #285 | |
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Do more research. Find out the materials. Let me know if you have any other questions. |
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02-13-2013, 10:18 AM | #286 | |
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02-13-2013, 11:15 AM | #287 | |
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g2779s all over clear and the spot and quick flash clear is good to go. Lower voc if your area laws call for it with groundcoats. The waterbase stuff certainly does cover super effectively but takes quite a bit longer to dry, you have to buy these crazy expensive fans and place in the corners of the booth to move all the air to dry it, but the real easy part is if something doesn't look right you just spray some water on it and wipe it off super easy and start over. Sata rep told us the 3000's we use are fine for waterborne so don't need to go out an buy a new gun right away, although if our area ever makes it mandatory ill just go ahead and buy a waterborne only gun and use the others I have for clear and sealer. We still use normal chromabase since they haven't made it law for our area yet but have we have the stuff for when they do. I've only sprayed waterborne twice and you'll be freaked the first time you spray it cause it goes on looking super dark but will dry to a good color match, blending with it might be a little scary at first. But seems to be a pretty simple system as only the basecoat and a few preperation steps have changed. At the time I took the class they had not developed 3 stage paints yet,just base/clears. No base/pearl/clears yet but Im sure they have now. Sounds like its much more of a change than it actually is. |
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02-13-2013, 11:33 AM | #288 | |
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02-13-2013, 11:51 AM | #289 |
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sikkens ? basf /Glasurit ?
walk away if hes saying he can do a full paint job on your car with that material for 1300. That stuff costs more than the chromabase/chromaclear system I use and like matt stated it would be anywhere from 600-700 just for sprayable material. Feels like dude is trying to butter you up and then use some junk paint and clear like duponts nason line or ppg's omni crap which is cheap as dirt and pretty much garbage. |
02-13-2013, 07:26 PM | #290 |
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He said he uses that because he does alot of "exotic cars" and it matches better... i dont know what im gonna do now. Insurance company already wrote the check
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02-13-2013, 08:34 PM | #291 |
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Thats all well and good. Its fantastic material. Alot of higher end car guys like to stick with those brands cause they are really good. The price just doesnt corelate. Unless hes stealing the material from the shop he works at. Then i guess that would make a little sense. Its jus a ton of work to do an exterior respray the correct way and thats like a 3rd of what most shops would charge for a starting base price.
So lets clarify. Does he want an additional 1300 to spray your entire car or 1300 and your insurance check to fix any damage and paint the rest of the car at the same time ? That would make more sense to me. Have customers all the time who get in an accident and we have to fix half their car and they just pay additional cash for labor and materials for us to paint the rest of it so the car is all fresh new paint. |
02-14-2013, 03:10 AM | #292 |
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No, he wants $1500 total to respray the car and wet sand/buff to a mirror shine. From what y'all are saying I wouldn't think he would take the lights,door handles,bumber, etc... Off for that price. (I bet he plans to tape off those things and spray) I wonder if I take those off for him if I will get a better paint job or do you think I would still get shafted?
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02-14-2013, 04:55 AM | #293 |
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For 1400 I would for sure take the car apart to paint. Iam a painter and I've painted cars for 400-600 without taking them apart but the wrx is way to small to paint without doing jams an everything for 1400 . Just my 2 cents.
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02-14-2013, 12:44 PM | #294 |
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He's not doing jams, just outside shell. I ask for price without doing the jams as I am wanting the same oem color and didn't think i needed it and figured it would save me some money.
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02-14-2013, 02:03 PM | #295 |
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02-14-2013, 02:29 PM | #296 |
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02-14-2013, 03:20 PM | #297 |
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Hes saying less than 1400 for jambs and exterior spray. I would highly question his experience and/or quality for that.
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02-14-2013, 04:03 PM | #298 | |
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02-14-2013, 05:02 PM | #299 |
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I will move on now, Sorry for all the questions, thanks for all the replies/help.
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02-14-2013, 06:46 PM | #300 |
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Moving on then.
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