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Old 10-30-2022, 08:34 PM   #8001
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Or get an outback and have better performance with more utility.
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Old 10-30-2022, 08:43 PM   #8002
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I had no idea the Outback can run 13's. Subaru is absolutely killing it lately . Talk about a win, win.
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Old 10-30-2022, 09:00 PM   #8003
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Or get an outback and have better performance with more utility.
Not gonna lie the baby poo green outback wilderness has caught my eye
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Old 10-30-2022, 09:28 PM   #8004
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I had no idea the Outback can run 13's. Subaru is absolutely killing it lately . Talk about a win, win.
WRX GT runs it at 13.9 while Outback XT runs it at 15.75. Not exactly smoking the OBXT.

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Old 10-31-2022, 09:36 AM   #8005
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Id be curious to try out the WRX CVT version. Just to compare the CVT to all others Ive tried. Honda Accord has been the only one with a CVT that I dont hate.

I would still pick the ZF6 or ZF8 over any CVT though.
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Old 10-31-2022, 11:46 AM   #8006
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Id be curious to try out the WRX CVT version. Just to compare the CVT to all others Ive tried. Honda Accord has been the only one with a CVT that I dont hate.

I would still pick the ZF6 or ZF8 over any CVT though.
Honda's chain CVT are probably the best chain based units out there. There is not much failure talk on the net about it. They also don't try putting it in every product.

Drove a Civic with the CVT a few years back over seas. Worked well for what it was.

I agree with the ZF. Such a better answer to the mpg question.

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Old 10-31-2022, 05:21 PM   #8007
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The verdict is in, Subaru knocked this car out of the park.

EDIT: I forgot the banana emoji


Verdict is in:

The people who own or previously owned Subaru products are unhappy with the car, and the guy who drives a GLI and has never given Subaru a dime of his money loves it.
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Old 10-31-2022, 07:13 PM   #8008
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his parents gave him the gli. one day. one day he'll get a job and be able to buy a wrx.
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Old 10-31-2022, 07:22 PM   #8009
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I had an 02 bugeye, 05 STi, 08 outback. It really pisses me off Subaru offers nothing I would buy anymore.

I bought all 3 brand new.
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Old 10-31-2022, 07:35 PM   #8010
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Id be curious to try out the WRX CVT version. Just to compare the CVT to all others Ive tried. Honda Accord has been the only one with a CVT that I dont hate.

I would still pick the ZF6 or ZF8 over any CVT though.
I test drove the WRX GT. It felt reasonably quick and responsive, at least as much as a CVT can be. I don't know if the CVT is tuned differently in GT vs. the other trims but I think it's well matched to the car.

In my mind, the target demographic for a CVT WRX is probably younger white collar professionals who have a decent amount of disposable income for the first time in their lives. They want a car that feels fast and that's more exciting than a Civic or other comparable econobox, but they don't know how to drive stick or maybe don't want to deal with the "hassle" of driving stick all the time. They want something that they can also use as a family hauler while also having some fun. To someone like that, a CVT WRX is a solid option.

To Subaru nuts like us, some might say it's sacrilege because Subaru has already been slowly moving away from the brand that it was in the mid 2000s and now it's an even bigger offense that they save all the desirable bits for a trim that only comes with a CVT and costs $10K more than it should. The reality is that "real enthusiasts" (for lack of a better term) represent just a small drop in the ocean now.

I'd be curious to see stats about how many people know how to drive a manual, separated by age groups. We already know that the number is small but in today's world of emerging EVs and technology being at the forefront of everything that we interact with, I can't imagine that too many kids who were born in the last decade or so are going to grow up to be "car enthusiasts" in the same way that most of us on here are car enthusiasts.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:21 AM   #8011
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I test drove the WRX GT. It felt reasonably quick and responsive, at least as much as a CVT can be. I don't know if the CVT is tuned differently in GT vs. the other trims but I think it's well matched to the car.

In my mind, the target demographic for a CVT WRX is probably younger white collar professionals who have a decent amount of disposable income for the first time in their lives. They want a car that feels fast and that's more exciting than a Civic or other comparable econobox, but they don't know how to drive stick or maybe don't want to deal with the "hassle" of driving stick all the time. They want something that they can also use as a family hauler while also having some fun. To someone like that, a CVT WRX is a solid option.

To Subaru nuts like us, some might say it's sacrilege because Subaru has already been slowly moving away from the brand that it was in the mid 2000s and now it's an even bigger offense that they save all the desirable bits for a trim that only comes with a CVT and costs $10K more than it should. The reality is that "real enthusiasts" (for lack of a better term) represent just a small drop in the ocean now.
The problem with the WRX GT is that they are asking Lexus IS money.
An IS300 AWD has a LOWER MSRP, an IS350 AWD is about the same MSRP; Audi, Merc & BMW all offer something around the same MSRP that offer the same utility (I mean, as much utility as you can get out of a compact sedan) while being significantly nicer places to be.

Mazda 3 2.5T AWD is another competitor in the AWD Auto I4T market, but it's significantly cheaper than a WRX GT while being a better place to be.
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:35 PM   #8012
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Cobbs Accessport for the 22' Wrx dropped today. Claiming 40whp just with a stage 1 tune. The VB has a single scroll, not a double like the VA. Thats a significant bump for just a stage 1 tune. Im wondering what Longevity will look like.
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Old 11-01-2022, 01:07 PM   #8013
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Cobbs Accessport for the 22' Wrx dropped today. Claiming 40whp just with a stage 1 tune. The VB has a single scroll, not a double like the VA. Thats a significant bump for just a stage 1 tune. Im wondering what Longevity will look like.


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Old 11-01-2022, 01:17 PM   #8014
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cobb wont even show a WRX with unpainted plastic.

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Old 11-01-2022, 01:17 PM   #8015
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cobb wont even show a WRX with unpainted plastic.

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Old 11-01-2022, 01:21 PM   #8016
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Nice torque bump ! From around 2800 all the way to 5500.
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Old 11-01-2022, 01:23 PM   #8017
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
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Old 11-01-2022, 01:23 PM   #8018
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only one dollar though because I don't have, or want a new wrx.
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Old 11-01-2022, 01:39 PM   #8019
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Im wondering what Longevity will look like.
Well if you ask Subaru, they'd say BAD because they don't dare hit that gearbox with any more than 258 lb-ft. But if you ask me I'd guess just fine, since you basically never hear about those gearboxes breaking after all these years of AP action. Engine will prob be fine too.

I run a stage 1 91 OTS map for drivability improvements only, keep it topped up with the best 93 I can find. If the VB had anywhere near the horrific rev-hang, throttle response and wonky AFR like the early VA's had I'd 100% do an AP again, in-warranty. It doesn't sound like VB is too bad in that department though. Would wait until you felt bored with it and do it to freshen things up.
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Old 11-01-2022, 01:42 PM   #8020
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If Subaru would paint the the car like the Silver one on the Cobb site, I think it would be way more desirable.
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Old 11-01-2022, 02:20 PM   #8021
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Well if you ask Subaru, they'd say BAD because they don't dare hit that gearbox with any more than 258 lb-ft. But if you ask me I'd guess just fine, since you basically never hear about those gearboxes breaking after all these years of AP action. Engine will prob be fine too.

I run a stage 1 91 OTS map for drivability improvements only, keep it topped up with the best 93 I can find. If the VB had anywhere near the horrific rev-hang, throttle response and wonky AFR like the early VA's had I'd 100% do an AP again, in-warranty. It doesn't sound like VB is too bad in that department though. Would wait until you felt bored with it and do it to freshen things up.
The early 6100rpm rev limit does bother me a smidgen, but other than that the power in the lower gears is pretty usable overall. I'd need a flex fuel kit, catch cans, and whatever else before I did anything Tune related, but yeah thats a pretty sizable increase for just a stage 1. From 12psi to 19.
Thanks for uploading the Photos Snow-Drift! I was lazy
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Old 11-01-2022, 02:35 PM   #8022
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Great numbers from that OTS tune .
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Old 11-01-2022, 03:04 PM   #8023
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That Silver Cobb car looks so much like an EVO X from the side, makes me miss mine a bit
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Old 11-01-2022, 03:06 PM   #8024
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Silver Cobb WRX looks great. I would buy that. SBR is so blind when it comes to design. I still don't know who the head designer is, and I bet it's design-by-committee.
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Old 11-01-2022, 03:13 PM   #8025
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