2022 BRZ now arriving at Dealers...

[oichan]

I'm going to see if I can test drive one while I wait for my 19' WRX's recall service to be completed.. Just waiting on dumb omicron to subside some more..

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[chanomatik]

Is there potential for the BRZ to replace a vehicle in your line-up? Or is it going to be an addition?

[Dex]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Is there potential for the BRZ to replace a vehicle in your line-up? Or is it going to be an addition?

Was this directed at the group or oichan?

[chanomatik]

Oichan, but I like to leave a bit of chaos sometimes by opening it up to a group unannounced.

Also the thread isn't exactly blowing up, so I didn't feel it necessary to quote oichan.

- Dex

[Dex]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Oichan, but I like to leave a bit of chaos sometimes by opening it up to a group unannounced.

Also the thread isn't exactly blowing up, so I didn't feel it necessary to quote oichan.

- Dex

Gotcha. My plans are to replace my Fiesta ST with a BRZ once they're back in stock. Seems like the twins are really hot right now, so that will probably be a while.

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Dex

Gotcha. My plans are to replace my Fiesta ST with a BRZ once they're back in stock. Seems like the twins are really hot right now, so that will probably be a while.

I remember when I had my BRZ and this dude in a Fiesta ST was feeling extra saucy and totally smoked me on the road. They seem like fun, little cars. More practical than a BRZ. Any particular reason you're done with your Fiesta ST?

[Dex]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I remember when I had my BRZ and this dude in a Fiesta ST was feeling extra saucy and totally smoked me on the road. They seem like fun, little cars. More practical than a BRZ. Any particular reason you're done with your Fiesta ST?

I've had it for 8 years and I have a hankering for both a new ride and RWD car now. It's been a great car, very fun to drive, but the Ford econo car roots are starting to shine through a bit much on things like trim pieces and the paint. If I had the space to park it, I'd keep it and get the BRZ, but I just can't make financial or practical sense out of that choice. I'll definitely miss the hatch, but I appears you can fit a surfboard in a BRZ, and there are some pretty clever hitch setups for bike racks. Wifey has a bigger car, so that's always available when we shop or road trip.

[chanomatik]

I totally understand. I can't really justify having two vehicles as a single guy living in an apartment. I do technically have space for a second vehicle, but I'd rather save it for guests of my own or the neighbors. Would love to have a significant other who had a more practical vehicle so I could just have my one, fun vehicle. Also I'm more focused on traveling, and it's nice not having any car payments.

The BRZ actually has a good bit of room. I used my BRZ to get Costco groceries, move across the country twice, and generally loaded it with things that surprised me that it could handle.

I think the 2022 BRZ is the best time to jump in on a BRZ. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, good fortune to you on finding one. I'm still not really considering one until there's a tS model.

[Pre]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I totally understand. I can't really justify having two vehicles as a single guy living in an apartment. I do technically have space for a second vehicle, but I'd rather save it for guests of my own or the neighbors. Would love to have a significant other who had a more practical vehicle so I could just have my one, fun vehicle. Also I'm more focused on traveling, and it's nice not having any car payments..

The great thing about 2 is the DD ends up being more ideal for DD than your single car. Same thing goes for your 2nd, it ends up being more focused on being a drivers car. All in ones are always a compromise. That can be really pimped also but then there is the gas bill for driving something rad daily as well as the purchase price. Everything is choice and compromise. I do wish I would have migrated to the DD and 2 vehicle life much younger much sooner. It’s more functional, provides redundancy, and got me out of the vehicle swapping bid-ness so it actually saved me money.

Traveling I’m getting burned out with it. The airport, the 10am check out times, and most importantly, dealing with the got damn tourists. They would ruin a got damn wet dream. I found a spot where I could live and travel infrequently as everything I want will be in my area. Some want to be super mobile, others want to buy land and throw down far away from the busters and traffic.

[Calamity Jesus]

Originally Posted by Pre

The great thing about 2 is the DD ends up being more ideal for DD than your single car. Same thing goes for your 2nd, it ends up being more focused on being a drivers car. All in ones are always a compromise.

On that note, it's not too difficult to fit 3 motorcycles in one spot.

[fredzy]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I totally understand. I can't really justify having two vehicles as a single guy living in an apartment. I do technically have space for a second vehicle, but I'd rather save it for guests of my own or the neighbors. Would love to have a significant other who had a more practical vehicle so I could just have my one, fun vehicle. Also I'm more focused on traveling, and it's nice not having any car payments.

The BRZ actually has a good bit of room. I used my BRZ to get Costco groceries, move across the country twice, and generally loaded it with things that surprised me that it could handle.

I think the 2022 BRZ is the best time to jump in on a BRZ. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, good fortune to you on finding one. I'm still not really considering one until there's a tS model.

The significant other factor can make the dedicated "fun" car problem even trickier, assuming the inevitable happens and kids burst forth from everyone's loins.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by fredzy

The significant other factor can make the dedicated "fun" car problem even trickier, assuming the inevitable happens and kids burst forth from everyone's loins.

We're doing the dink route, so not too worried about car seats. We unless nature is like "contraceptives? Ha, I laugh in your direction!" Then ***128530;

[Pre]

Originally Posted by Calamity Jesus

On that note, it's not too difficult to fit 3 motorcycles in one spot.

Mine are jammed in around other vehicles. Garage has a pwc on the trailer my DD, and three bikes jammed around them. I’m doing the opposite….looking at rural, barndo, BAF garage. Hopefully 3500-4000 sq ft.

[oichan]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Oichan, but I like to leave a bit of chaos sometimes by opening it up to a group unannounced.

Also the thread isn't exactly blowing up, so I didn't feel it necessary to quote oichan.

- Dex

Yah, I would not replace any of my cars for the BRZ so I would just add. I prefer the GR86's facia vs the BRZ this time so I'd get the 86 (in white) instead if I decide to get one of these twins.

I think it would be cool to own the GR86 and the GRSupra together..

[Kostamojen]

Bucky's BRZ review is pretty damn good:

YouTube (Short URL)

YouTube (Short URL)

[subydude]

There were 5-6 of the new twins at an autox last weekend. I have to say the BRZ looks better in person than in pics, and the GR86 looks about the same. Both look good from multiple angles.

There was one on coilovers and the rest were stock. Interestingly enough the stock ones didn't have excessive body roll in comparison and looked very composed through corners. The one with coilovers was faster, but not excessively so.

I sat in two, a base and a limited. The seating surface and interior in the limited cemented my thoughts that it's more than worth the small price bump. The base isn't bad in any sense, but once you sit in the limited it's definitely an easy decision.

I also tested head clearance. I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam and with the seat in the lowest position I had more than 3" of clearance to the ceiling. I also felt too low in the car, and that was with the seat in a relatively upright position. A friend who has a longer torso than me also sat in it with a helmet on and fit as well. He mentioned his helmet was just brushing the ceiling, but he was able to get into a comfortable driving position. I would say all the concerns about fitment are pretty moot unless you're over 6'4" and still have a 30" inseam.

One note, the pedals aren't great for heal toe with the gas pedal being sunk slightly. I felt it was fine, but I had to think about it to do it well. I didn't get to drive one so I can't comment there, but the people who did all said they were pretty fantastic given the price range.

[Calamity Jesus]

TheTopher (Chris Amos of WindingRoad magazine) bought a '22 BRZ:

2022 Subaru BRZ (6-Speed Manual) - Ownership First Impressions - YouTube

2022 Subaru BRZ (6-Speed Manual) - Ownership First Impressions - YouTube

2022 Subaru BRZ + Snow (Blizzak WS90) - YouTube

2022 Subaru BRZ + Snow (Blizzak WS90) - YouTube

SavageGeese's Jack Holmes bought a GR86:

Buying A Long Term Toyota GR86 | Plans and Process - YouTube

Buying A Long Term Toyota GR86 | Plans and Process - YouTube

Everyday Driver bought a GR86:

We bought a GR86! - Money where our mouth is - Long Term Review | Everyday Driver - YouTube

We bought a GR86! - Money where our mouth is - Long Term Review | Everyday Driver - YouTube

All of these folks previously owned a '13 Twin.

[Kostamojen]

YouTube (Short URL)

YouTube (Short URL)

[Sid03SVT]

Really like this color, and the wheels they put on it are more or less what I'd put on it. I'd prefer the 1.6L out of the GR Yaris Corolla to the NA 2.4L though, yeah I know, COG, NA vs turbo.. I just wanna go fast.

[dwf137]

Toss that 1.6L into the gr86 and I'm there. Perfect car.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

Really like this color, and the wheels they put on it are more or less what I'd put on it. I'd prefer the 1.6L out of the GR Yaris Corolla to the NA 2.4L though, yeah I know, COG, NA vs turbo.. I just wanna go fast.

Originally Posted by dwf137

Toss that 1.6L into the gr86 and I'm there. Perfect car.

[Pre]

Originally Posted by subydude

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I also tested head clearance. I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam and with the seat in the lowest position I had more than 3" of clearance to the ceiling. I also felt too low in the car, and that was with the seat in a relatively upright position. A friend who has a longer torso than me also sat in it with a helmet on and fit as well. He mentioned his helmet was just brushing the ceiling, but he was able to get into a comfortable driving position. I would say all the concerns about fitment are pretty moot unless you're over 6'4" and still have a 30" inseam.

The OG was the same way. I negotiated the buying of a FRS for my manager at the time a year or two after initial release. It was something like that once the initial hype died down some. He test drove it, then I did, and I marveled at the seating position for someone 6’2”. It’s comfortable, you can have the seat back more or less completely upright and it’s a true cockpit. Weird that the seat position has ample room for the tall man, it fits like a glove, excellent visibility, and it’s not claustrophobic. Hard to explain. It’s basically the perfect fit and perfect cockpit for a drivers car if that makes sense.

[fredzy]

2023 BRZ is now orderable. No changes except small price bump. I was surprised ordering for 23's opened already, seems early but maybe that's normal timing for that.

Someone who put an order in yesterday got a September ETA.

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...Kr4s-RpVRfolvA

[chanomatik]

They did add rain or mist sensing windshield wipers.

I forgot how late the 2022 came out, so I was completely surprised about 2023. Makes way more sense now though.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

They did add rain or mist sensing windshield wipers.

I forgot how late the 2022 came out, so I was completely surprised about 2023. Makes way more sense now though.

makes sense to me, considering how quickly they closed orders for the 2022. felt like you could only get one for a few weeks before they were done for the 2022.

and rain sensing wipers? man, those people who got a 2022 are going to be pissed they didn't wait!