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02-06-2010, 10:32 AM | #51 |
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nobody wants that mess. ugly cracker box. keep it overseas.
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02-06-2010, 11:10 AM | #52 | |
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02-06-2010, 11:13 AM | #53 | |
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And the smart car is smaller than....everything, so it always loses.
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02-06-2010, 06:51 PM | #54 | |
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02-06-2010, 10:34 PM | #55 | |
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02-06-2010, 11:38 PM | #56 |
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Apparently the Mercedes engineers in California (where the smart was initially designed in 93-94), found a way around your "Laws of Physics"! Read the smart owners crash stories that disprove your thinking at safeandsmart.com. Or you could just continue in blissful ignorance.
Seriously... please read the letters. Jack |
02-06-2010, 11:55 PM | #57 |
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Seems SMART is pretty proud of these Californian engineers... .
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Total Posts: 4 Posts Per Day: 3.05 SmartUSA Shill / IP check... please. Also, that YouTube video you posted is the edited version that omits the extremely negative conclusion. Here's the rest: http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s#t=3m35s Quote:
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02-07-2010, 02:41 AM | #59 |
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Why do I get the odd impression that you teach English lit at a community college somewhere?
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02-07-2010, 03:55 AM | #60 |
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Oh come on, the driver would just walk away from this! |
02-07-2010, 04:00 AM | #61 |
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The Smart Cars always reminded me of Captain Pikes roller chair thing from old Star Trek...
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02-07-2010, 10:15 AM | #62 |
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Maybe it it was a Smart he would have.
I find two things funny with all this: 1. the inexplicable pathological hatred. I haven't seen anything so irrational since a black guy tried to sit at a lunch counter in Alabama. 2. Scrappy and company are the first to holler about vehicle choice when anyone baggs on SUV or other large wasteful cars. |
02-07-2010, 10:20 AM | #63 | |
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As pointed out many times by others in this thread, having a rock solid structure with no crumple zone is a recipe for disaster. You want something other than your body to dissipate the energy released in a crash, and the Smart has almost nothing to aid you in this regard. In order for you to survive, the car must necessarily sacrifice itself. The fact that you can throw a Smart at a concrete wall and the passenger cell survives in tact is actually the opposite of what you want. It is not true that mass automatically equals safety, (if that was true, a pick up truck with concrete blocks on its bed would be safer than the one without, but that's obviously not true) but in the case of Smart its diminutive size does seem to be a major drawback in making the car crash worthy. |
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02-07-2010, 10:46 AM | #64 |
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The Smart isn't a bad (city) car; just not competitive in either price or mileage which are typically the top two things people look for in small efficient cars.
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02-07-2010, 10:54 AM | #65 | |
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And just consider for a minute what you're reading. That website is a lovefest for Smart car owners, and that's fine, but it's a bit one sided. Where is the other side of the coin, the fatality stories? (Yeah, yeah, dead people can't talk). http://northeast-nc.injuryboard.com/...oogleid=268572 In any event, I find it curious that your first four posts on this website were in this very thread. You obviously have some vested interest in defending the Smartcar, whether you're an employee of Smart or just a rabid owner. |
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02-07-2010, 10:56 AM | #66 |
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exactly the incompatibility I was speaking of in my earlier posts. Immediately we point the finger at the smart car in this instance. But why not look at the semi for things you could change to improve the OTHER driver's survivability no matter what car its hitting.
I'd also like to know why a Smart car hit a Semi truck head-on in the first place. I think that data is more important that what kind of car it was. |
02-07-2010, 10:59 AM | #67 | |
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To be fair, I don't think that's an actual Smart car and it's surely not in the US. If you want to see the other pictures in the series, including pictures of the deceased driver, I suggest Googling "Smart car death" and it should be one of the first links. HIGHLY NSFW. |
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02-07-2010, 11:04 AM | #68 | |
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02-07-2010, 11:46 AM | #69 | |
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I doubt many folks on here care about whether or not someone buys a SMART--I certainly don't care if someone buys a SMART or a Suburban--different people have different needs. That is the beauty of a free country. I think the issue is making specious claims. "Our H2 handles like a Lotus, just look at this video fragment." |
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02-07-2010, 11:48 AM | #70 |
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02-07-2010, 12:59 PM | #71 |
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Every time I see video like this, I'm thinking about small car bouncing back to next line right in a front of incoming semi truck. |
02-07-2010, 01:21 PM | #72 | |
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* and this doesn't even account for the fact that 6500+ GWVR trucks don't meet the same safety standards as automobiles, so the Excursion may well be not the safest passenger-vehicle choice despite its girth |
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02-07-2010, 02:34 PM | #73 | |
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I think what they should have said, is that ANY car, because it is true for any car, yours mine, that H1, whatever. no driver would walk away from this, regardless of the vehicle, even if it was a smart car (which the pictured vehicle wasn't). |
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02-07-2010, 02:36 PM | #74 | |
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^-- thread about video above: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527529
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