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Old 08-30-2000, 09:40 AM   #1
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Question Weapon R Intakes vs. the competition

Let me preface this post with the following: I don't have an intake installed on my Impreza, so I have limited knowledge of what intakes are really effective.

That said, I've heard from Honda-driving acquaintances and friends Weapon R makes kick-ass intakes. I have yet to drive one of these intake-equipped vehicles, so I cannot verify whether Weapon R's intakes are any good.

Does anyone recommend Weapon R intakes? Are there better intakes available? If so, who makes them and from who can they be purchased?
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Old 08-30-2000, 09:49 AM   #2
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I have driven a Subaru with a Weapon R intake and it does make a difference. It also gives you a nice growl under hard acceleration. I am just still wondering does Weapon R makes intakes for MY98. If anyone call tell me where I can get one and how much it would be great thanks.
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Old 08-30-2000, 09:53 AM   #3
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This has been written a lot about on the BB. Try a search for more info. That being said, this is my take on them.
1) I strongly recommend it because it works very well.
2) Acceleration and deceleration are much smoother. That's very important to me because I get stuck in a lot of stop and go traffic. This has prevented me from jerking the car at low speed.
3) I gained HP and torque throughout the entire rpm range. Some intakes lose power at the low end. Not the Weapon-R. I gained enough low-end power to spin all 4 tires from a dead stop on dry pavement. I couldn't do that with the stock intake.
4) Although installation is easy, the instructions suck. You should also use a stronger peice of aluminum for the bracket.
5) There are some other very good intakes. I'll let those owners speak for themselves, since I don't have the other intakes.
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Old 08-30-2000, 09:59 AM   #4
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definetly do a search. i know there has been a lot of complaints about the quality of their filters.
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Old 08-30-2000, 10:02 AM   #5
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Soboy -

I have found the Weapon R intake at SPO Motorsports . They sell the intakes in a variety of colors (silver polished, red, blue, yellow) and for both '93-'99 models and 2000 models.

Hope this helps.

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Old 08-30-2000, 10:14 AM   #6
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Funny... every Honda drive I've ever talked to claimed the W*R intakes are supposed to really suck (figuratively... obviously they already do literally).
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Old 08-30-2000, 11:03 AM   #7
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No offense to anyone, but anyone here in my town that tunes Hondas pretty much agrees that Weapon R blows. Filters are junk, and for some reason they're intake pipe is always too short.

That said, a lot of people on this board do have Weapon R intakes, and they like it. They all say they gain power, etc...but then again, with just about every intake system you will gain power. So its basically just brand preference. I personally have the Minnam, like it, BUT I do think that the Weapon R is a bit too short for my liking.
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Old 08-30-2000, 11:45 AM   #8
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First and foremost, we DO NOT HAVE HONDA's. That being said, the Weapon*R looks and sounds great, and adds a nice pick-up overall for the Impreza. If you haven't seen it already, check out this my Weapon*R section: www.simplyrotten.com/impreza.htm

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Old 08-30-2000, 11:54 AM   #9
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I repeatedly hear people say that with just an intake they are able to spin all four tires on dry pavement. If I were you I would take a believe it when you see it attitude. I still cannot believe this, even if they are reving to redline and dropping the clutch. (Don't do this by the way, really hard on the drivetrain.)

Someone else please back me on this. I think you would have to have some serious NA mods or a nice turbo in order to get a four to spin on dry pavement.


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Old 08-30-2000, 11:56 AM   #10
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I think the issue is rather - Does the Weapon*R provide added power (low or high torque ranges, or both). I really don't think people are claiming to spin all four dry tires with an intake alone.

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Old 08-30-2000, 02:18 PM   #11
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I don't believe it at all... if anyone in LA can proove it to me - I'd like to see it... but you know what I think?? I think someone new needs to pick up Sev's BS Flag if he's really gone...
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Old 08-30-2000, 02:19 PM   #12
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The Weapon R is great for the price. Trey Cobb hates them but thats his opinion. All I have is the Weapon R intake, as far as engine mods, and I ran a 15.9@85 mph. This was my last run, in the evening, at Moroso, after running nothing but disappointing 16's all day long. I also attached a dryer hose to the front of the filter and ran it down the left hand side, behind the radiator, where I then attached it underneath the car, with a big tie wrap, for a ram-air effect.
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Old 08-30-2000, 02:49 PM   #13
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hey I too was deciding weapon r or someone else... but I can across an intake that was one cheep and eficient (I can't spell, it was 8complex's intake... its very diffrent from the rest... one its about only expensive to the point where you want to make it... what I mean is that there are dirrfent ways to accomplish the same task... what he did was, he opened the hood scoop which one if you open it up with any intake vents the engine heat... then all he did was remove the pipeing and then reversed the intake box w/o the other side that connects the pipes then faces it so that it was facing the hood scoop and with alittle angle. What he did to connect the open box to the throtel body was (here is where you can make it fancy) a peice of rubber hose bent @ a 70 degree angle... and that's that... the reason I wanted to mention this is because it uses the hood scoop which makes it have a purpose rather than just lookin good. Secondly when setup like this it sorta looks like an intercooler. Third it actually works by catching air... most people will say that it will only catch air at speed above 70mph or higher.. but what they are missing is that if its not getting cool air it sure is venting the hot air out of the way... that's my .02 cents... if your sold with this idea do a member search for 8complex and drop him a pm he's great with explaining things. or just look around there should be a pic of his intake somewhere here... hope this helped...
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Old 08-30-2000, 03:02 PM   #14
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I have a JC Sports intake on my '98 Legacy L, and all I have to say that it's a really sweet intake, very nice build quality, and damn- that sound! It does do lots to help your car rev smoother... especially past 3000rpms
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Old 08-30-2000, 03:05 PM   #15
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I don't know about you but all those pipes aren't me... if your into things that have purpose I'd go 8complex intake... you should look into it... Reasons One its the least expensive as the pipe intakes... Two it uses existing complents of the car... ie. the hood scoop... people will complain of that its point less but the hood scoop does two things in my prospective... one of it cooling the engine and at with this intake catching some air... that too people will complain that it won't work unless your going above 70 mph so what I say to that is that if its not catching air its venting air... and finally it looks like an intercooler like on the WRX cars.. or any turboed cars that use the scoop... if your sold with that idea look up 8complex he's the genius in my eyes...
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Old 08-30-2000, 03:07 PM   #16
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hehe I posted again because I'd didn't know that it went through... whoops... sorry
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Old 08-30-2000, 10:48 PM   #17
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Well, for a MY00/01, I think my intake is the best http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Forum2/HTML/001920.html


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Old 08-30-2000, 10:56 PM   #18
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Well... there are definitely two schools of thought, aren't there.

Here are my experiences. I have a 2.0l RX with a full MRT exhuast incl. headers.

I had a ram pod (car is MAP sensor) directly on the throttle body. Sounded good, lost bottom end, gained more in the 4500-6000rpm bracket.

Then I got an air pipe, similar to JC sports etc but in mandrel bent stainless steel. It took the actual pod right down to the abs controller behind the headlight.

It seemed more powerful. More low end, smoother all round, maybe not quite as much at the top compared to the direct connect to the throttle body. And the sound was great! It was a 3" pipe, with a trumpet flanged pod on the end.

Then I put the stock airbox back on as a test. Wow! My car was quieter, smoother, more torquey, and a little less up top.

I'd rather this personally. I think the incredible sound the pods make fool you into making the car 'faster'. If you like your car to sound good, great, personally I prefer torque and smooth acceleration over sound.

Subaru don't spend millions on their motors for nothing, and a $300 add on won't do that much bar the sound. 5% more power at 6500rpm, great, but you've probably f**ked up the torque curve. AWD needs that low down torque. The airbox and standard pipes were probably designed with the best compromise for power and quietness - and they know better than anyone what makes the motors tick.
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Old 08-31-2000, 06:58 AM   #19
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my turn for another great weapon r debate. The pipe is long enough in fact if you point it the right way and remove a grill vent then it pulls air almost perfectly from there but does not sit directly under it.
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I have a friend who has one on his 99 and says the filter works fine. The design of the intake is nice. IMO the JC Sports intake looks really cheaply made while once again IMO the weapon r is a much nicer build. If I had to get a new intake I would get another weapon r.

Everyone here who knocks the weapon r only does it because they heard its bad. I have one I love it. It makes great power and smooth accelration. A buddy of mine made his own intake similiar to the ImprezaRS dot com made and he likes mine better in fact he's waiting for his weapon r know. He said accelaration was ALOT smoother than his.

Ok Ok I will get off my soapbox now sorry for the ranting but this topic and the bashing of the weapon r product has got beaten to death.
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Old 08-31-2000, 07:41 AM   #20
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If/When i buy my weapon R what do i have to do with my exhaust? also as a nonmechanic, is there a chance of me installing this correctly? or should i just have it done by a pro?
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Old 08-31-2000, 08:17 AM   #21
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It's one of them do it yourself deals on the MY00 it took me all of 20 minutes to install it.
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Old 08-31-2000, 10:08 AM   #22
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Fester, I know the thread was about the pro's and con's of the Weapon R. In ChaosThom's reply, he stated that the filter produced enough gains so that he could spin all four tires from a dead stop on dry pavement.

I do not want people to expect the same results from just putting on this intake.


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Old 08-31-2000, 02:08 PM   #23
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rpone605, that can't be a 2000 RS Weapon R intake right? The pipe is a lot shorter than mine.
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Old 08-31-2000, 07:55 PM   #24
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Sunrise City Rider -

Do you have any pix of your Weapon R intake? If you visit SPO Motorsports' website, they have a number of pix of Weapon R intakes, and the intake pipe doesn't appear to be much longer than the one in the pic above.

I guess that's my main concern - the length of the pipe! Not that I'm insecure about the length of my pipe!

Hey, does anybody know anything about AMR's new air intake? I know it's been delayed while the Nam speeds the release of the turbo kit, but I'm anxious to hear about the performance of the new intake.
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Old 09-01-2000, 05:09 PM   #25
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To all those considering installation of the intake - it is pretty easy and you don't need to shop it out. I've got instructions at <A HREF="http://www.dharmaworks.net/Tim/Impreza/intake.html">http://www.dharmaworks.net/Tim/Impreza/intake.html</A>. Note that the kit I bought came shy a few parts and I had to go find them myself but SPO claims that has been taken care of by WeaponR but I guess instructions are still lacking.

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