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Old 07-08-2000, 07:33 PM   #1
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Question Lowering Too Low Bad for Car?

Does anyone know if lowering a car too low ie. beyond 1in can cause steering problems? Is the steering system (rack and pinion, psteer pump) more stressed trying to do its job if the car is lowered?

I sometimes here some funny buzzing sounds when I take a U'turn (steep angle, but not locked the steering). My 98GT car is dropped about 18in/1.5in f/r. I'm pretty sure I don't have wheel rub.

Would lowering the car void any particular warranty? Anyone had a dealer problems with this?

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Old 07-08-2000, 07:50 PM   #2
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Well, dropping it 18 inches in the front [foot and a half] would cause some noise, because the front part of your car would be about 12 inches under the road... you might want to check that out.


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Old 07-08-2000, 08:11 PM   #3
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If you lower it too much without getting it setup right the car will have a bunchy front end and a poor over all ride quality. You may have your tires rubbing on the strut of the wheel wells. I have seen people in auto-x get the tires to rub even with the stock setup. Were you driving fast in the turn? My Nissan has alot of mistery noises from being really low. There is alot of stress on the front end of a car when the wheels don't have as much travel in them as they need. I've had low cars before and with the RS I only wanted to lower it 1in. So I got the STI setup which lowered it only 3/4 inch. You may want to check to see if your tires were rubbing.
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Old 07-08-2000, 09:46 PM   #4
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Yeah 1.8in is really low to get the best out of an Impreza setup. I say masx would be about 1.25". I know H&Rs go nuts with their 1.5". IMHO, I'd stick with 1" max and have good dampers for it. Imprezas are not made for slammed rides. It's not touring cars. It is designed with fast twisties and quick reaction in mind.
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Old 07-08-2000, 10:00 PM   #5
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So H&R is not a good spring choice for our cars. I was considering getting these because I have heard good things about them. Should I get the Tein springs instead?
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Old 07-08-2000, 10:20 PM   #6
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Well, I have heard the sound during a fast turn, slow u-turn, and on my drive way with me holding the steering wheel at a turned position. Maybe the engine vibration is somehow being translated to something that sounds like plate rattling....


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Old 07-09-2000, 12:12 PM   #7
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Well, check out my ride, I lowered it around 3 inches http://208.9.184.110/MembersList/Vie...m?MemberID=385
I have koni shocks and Eibach springs that were cut...so far (1 year) there has been NO problems, noises or anything like that, I'm happy with the ride and LOVE how it handles.
The only problem I have is that when at the track, the front bottoms out slightly and a 1 inch higher springs will fix it. I have won Overall last auto-X with that set up (with a little help of my friend Hoosier...)
Check out the wing...tell me what you think


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Old 07-09-2000, 12:43 PM   #8
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Mr. Gasket...nice ride. I have not seen that wing on any Subaru....looks good. I bet its light.

I don't know if its me only, but it does not seem like a 3 in drop, more like ~2in. I don't own an Impeza so I could be incorrect. But it looks perfect the height its at....l

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Old 07-09-2000, 12:46 PM   #9
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Just be warned. Lowering the car too far will damage the drivetrain and maybe the CV boots.

edit: YMMV

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Old 07-09-2000, 05:29 PM   #10
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I didn't say that. Just that over lowered is not optimal for what this car is created to be.
Go to spdusa.com for more technical inof about suspensions.
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Old 07-09-2000, 06:15 PM   #11
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I think you answered your own question; too low; is always bad.
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Old 07-09-2000, 06:41 PM   #12
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Too low is not the problem, it's how you fix the problem...see the other way to fix the bottoming out of my shocks is by either, raising the upper shock pick up point or getting smaller shocks.
I've had the car this low for over a year, have 18K miles and racing frequently, everyone tells me that it's too low but so far my car is the quickest at the track.

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Old 07-09-2000, 06:50 PM   #13
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I don't think he is talking about the track but rather everyday driving. If you live in a city with really good roads (not likely) then you could lower it that much. If you don't then you may be causing some damage. Just cutting springs is not a good way to lower a car. You need to consider spring rates, shortened struts that won't wear out quickly, rolling the fenders, added shock to the control arms, CV joints and other parts on the car. Having to get it aligned more often or wear out tires quicker and even the police who will take the time to stop you to measure the ride height. I have had this happen before and trust me anytime you get pulled over it isn't fun. It is used as a fishing trip to find other things wrong with the car. Just consider if you want the car Trackable or Streetable. Oh and no matter what a strut will be required to travel a certain amount to absorb the shock of hitting bumps. Just getting shorter springs and struts won't garrantee that it can do that.
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Old 07-09-2000, 09:54 PM   #14
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I almost forgot the lower you put the car the lower your cars vitals will be to the road and road debris. You might want to look at a skid plate underneath to protect your oil pan and the gaurds to protect your diffs. You'd be amazed what your car can pickup. I was washing my car one day and found a big rock in the hood scoop. No idea how it got there but there it was none the less.
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