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Old 11-13-2017, 01:15 PM   #1
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Well the long awaited release for Cobb's Stage 1 OTS MAP for the 2018 STI's is over. I am going to buy an Accessport shortly. I plan on just going Stage 1 to improve driveability because the stock tune is killing me.

Just curious if any other 2018 STI owner already has or plans to test out Stage 1 for their car?

I will be posting my findings and opinion on it so stay tuned. I will also be trying out Cobb's Stage 1 and MAPerformance's Stage 1 OTS MAP to see which one I enjoy the most for daily driving in the city everyday.


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Old 11-13-2017, 01:46 PM   #2
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I'm interested and subscribed..

Thanks for posting!
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:12 PM   #3
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I'm going to BrenTuning (Upton, MA) next Tuesday to get a Cobb Stage 1+ Dyno Tune.

I'll be doing a stock baseline pull, then one with the Cobb OTS Map (Stage 1+SF) and finally top it off with a Dyno Tune.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:14 PM   #4
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Really interested in this will you post the numbers for all three? +1 subscribed
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:18 PM   #5
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:18 PM   #6
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:24 PM   #7
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Interested also, car won't be here until 12/11 but I'll certainly be subscribing.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:06 PM   #8
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Here are the results:

*Disclaimer* - This is my first manual car so take my opinions with a grain of salt. I'm just expressing MY noticeable improvements from the stock tune. If you want an all inclusive and experienced opinion, sorry I'm not your guy.

Got my Accessport in the mail today and loaded up the COBB Stage 1 93 OTS MAP. Loaded up the "Normal" Wastegate tune. After seeing a couple reviews on Cobb's website and such for the 2018's I was skeptical. They were
claiming the throttle response was no different and they couldn't achieve boost over 10 PSI. None of that was apparent in my experience and hit a target of 15.6 PSI in S (Cobb states 15PSI +/- 1PSI) and have yet to test out I or S#. It is also good to note that Fine Knock and Feedback Knock were both 0. Also, DAM was a steady 1.00 the entire drive. Was pretty nervous as my car is brand new and only has 2,500 miles. Easy installation and I was off to the races! (a.k.a. warrant = VOID)

First impressions was the throttle repose is MUCH, I mean MUCH less touchy. You really need to push the gas down to get the RPM's up unlike the stock tune. Will take a little getting used to, especially for the first few days I suppose. It is a better thing though. Starting off in 1st is interesting... It IS much smoother upon takeoff, but like I said the gas pedal is more "mushy" so differentiating from 1,000 - 2,000 RPM is difficult. Still a fine line between those but it's easier to determine than stock. After a week I should have the new throttle feel nailed down.

Next would be the smoothness in 1st and 2nd gears. There is essentially no bogging, hesitation, or jerkiness at slow speeds. Much more calm and steady in those gears.

The dreaded REV HANG is lessened, not gone, but lessened. From 1st to 2nd you will still get a jerk if you're not 100% perfect with that shift but the jerk is less harsh. Also applying some gas during the clutch release is a lot easier due to the throttle being less touchy. You won't "accidentally" over rev the engine during clutching out in between gears. Thus, making 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, and so on, seamless.

Lastly, acceleration through the gears is WAY better. Pulls linear and SMOOTH alllllll the way to redline.

These are my first, initial, expressions and will continue to update as I commute each day with this tune.

Since I bought the AP through MAPerformance I will be waiting for them to release their version of Stage 1 and compare the stock, and Cobb tune, to theirs.

With that, any questions you guys have I would be happy to answer in the meantime!
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:08 PM   #9
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Hey thanks! I thought it was a great review for someone like myself who doesnít have a lot of experience with Subaru or Cobb.

Your experiences with the Accessport give me hope thereís a solution for my poor clutch. Iíve had more than one manual trans sports car. This new STI I have kinda sucks to drive sometimes. Iím always smelling clutch if I donít drop the pedal. I hate that the engagement is the end. I canít slowly let out the clutch pedal. It would be nice if the car wasnít so jerky.

On the other hand I notice 99% of the time Iím in intelligent mode
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:14 AM   #10
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:25 PM   #11
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A little over a week later and I've grown more accustom to the tune. Cobb's Stage 1 tune is great and is worlds better than the stock tune. I have been monitoring my DAM and Knock. DAM hasn't gone under or above 1.000 yet. Fine knock and feedback knock do go to -1.4 on occasion. I presume this is false knock? Really doesn't worry me too much. Should I continue driving it or use the Cobb Stage 1 91 tune and see if the issue persists?
I will also compare that to the MAPerformance tune once that is released, no set ETA on that yet.
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Old 01-24-2018, 12:15 PM   #12
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Bringing back this thread because I finally got the MAPerformance Stage 1 Map for the 2018 sti. Been running it for about a week now and man, it is a lot better (in my opinion) than the Cobb Map. Driving is much smoother, especially from 1-2. There is NO rev hang anymore so shifting between 1-2 can be done much quicker now. Didn't realize the Cobb still had rev hang until I started driving the MAPerformance MAP. More importantly, power delivery is even smoother and I've been reaching higher boost. Approximately 19.0-19.5 PSI in S and S# Modes. It was definitely worth the wait. If any of you are looking to get your hands on this Map shoot Ian an email at MAPerformance ([email protected]), he has been very knowledgeable and helpful throughout.
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Old 01-24-2018, 02:21 PM   #13
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Thanks for the post! Iíve havenít been here in a while, well ever since I planned to keep the motor stock but itís great to hear all the benefits. Something to chew on come springtime.
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Bringing back this thread because I finally got the MAPerformance Stage 1 Map for the 2018 sti. Been running it for about a week now and man, it is a lot better (in my opinion) than the Cobb Map. Driving is much smoother, especially from 1-2. There is NO rev hang anymore so shifting between 1-2 can be done much quicker now. Didn't realize the Cobb still had rev hang until I started driving the MAPerformance MAP. More importantly, power delivery is even smoother and I've been reaching higher boost. Approximately 19.0-19.5 PSI in S and S# Modes. It was definitely worth the wait. If any of you are looking to get your hands on this Map shoot Ian an email at MAPerformance ([email protected]), he has been very knowledgeable and helpful throughout.
I know it hasn't been very long since you put the MAPerformance Stage 1 Map on, but have you experienced any knock yet? I really want to start modding my 18' STI, but I am concerned about the piston issues. My 06' WRX had 390HP and 395 torque with stock motor and never had an issue...
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Here are the results:

*Disclaimer* - This is my first manual car so take my opinions with a grain of salt. I'm just expressing MY noticeable improvements from the stock tune. If you want an all inclusive and experienced opinion, sorry I'm not your guy.

Got my Accessport in the mail today and loaded up the COBB Stage 1 93 OTS MAP. Loaded up the "Normal" Wastegate tune. After seeing a couple reviews on Cobb's website and such for the 2018's I was skeptical. They were
claiming the throttle response was no different and they couldn't achieve boost over 10 PSI. None of that was apparent in my experience and hit a target of 15.6 PSI in S (Cobb states 15PSI +/- 1PSI) and have yet to test out I or S#. It is also good to note that Fine Knock and Feedback Knock were both 0. Also, DAM was a steady 1.00 the entire drive. Was pretty nervous as my car is brand new and only has 2,500 miles. Easy installation and I was off to the races! (a.k.a. warrant = VOID)

First impressions was the throttle repose is MUCH, I mean MUCH less touchy. You really need to push the gas down to get the RPM's up unlike the stock tune. Will take a little getting used to, especially for the first few days I suppose. It is a better thing though. Starting off in 1st is interesting... It IS much smoother upon takeoff, but like I said the gas pedal is more "mushy" so differentiating from 1,000 - 2,000 RPM is difficult. Still a fine line between those but it's easier to determine than stock. After a week I should have the new throttle feel nailed down.

Next would be the smoothness in 1st and 2nd gears. There is essentially no bogging, hesitation, or jerkiness at slow speeds. Much more calm and steady in those gears.

The dreaded REV HANG is lessened, not gone, but lessened. From 1st to 2nd you will still get a jerk if you're not 100% perfect with that shift but the jerk is less harsh. Also applying some gas during the clutch release is a lot easier due to the throttle being less touchy. You won't "accidentally" over rev the engine during clutching out in between gears. Thus, making 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, and so on, seamless.

Lastly, acceleration through the gears is WAY better. Pulls linear and SMOOTH alllllll the way to redline.

These are my first, initial, expressions and will continue to update as I commute each day with this tune.

Since I bought the AP through MAPerformance I will be waiting for them to release their version of Stage 1 and compare the stock, and Cobb tune, to theirs.

With that, any questions you guys have I would be happy to answer in the meantime!

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Old 02-12-2018, 07:49 PM   #16
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MAPerformance is significantly better than Cobb's tune IMO. I did a side by side comparison where I switched between the tunes every other week. I even got better gas mileage with MA
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Old 02-14-2018, 01:40 PM   #17
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I know it hasn't been very long since you put the MAPerformance Stage 1 Map on, but have you experienced any knock yet? I really want to start modding my 18' STI, but I am concerned about the piston issues. My 06' WRX had 390HP and 395 torque with stock motor and never had an issue...
Nothing more than -1.40 on FBK and FKL but thats not an issue from the research i've done. Very rarely ill get -2.80 but only a handful of times. DAM has never dropped below 0.00.

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MAPerformance is significantly better than Cobb's tune IMO. I did a side by side comparison where I switched between the tunes every other week. I even got better gas mileage with MA
I agree with that, MAPerformance tune really makes me enjoy driving the car more. 1st to 2nd gear is just about seamless 90% of them time for me. And I drive this car in city traffic 99% of the time
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:33 PM   #18
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Anyone here with an 2018 STI have any issues with Cobb Stage 1+? I got the Accessport and intake right after they released the map. Install went fine and drove for 3 weeks with no issues. Then I got a code for random misfire and also running lean and my car would shut down while driving on the highway. Unmarried the Accessport and out stock airbox back on. no issues. reinstalled everything and then same issue came right back. Ended up shipping sending it all back to Cobb as I dont have time to datalog and what not. has anyone experienced the same issues?
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