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Old 11-28-2017, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default Subaru's "full electrification" slated for 2021

Subaru’s electrification offensive will kick into high gear in 2021
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The company’s first plug-in hybrid model will go on sale in the United States before the end of next year, according to the Japan Times. There’s no word yet on which model(s) will receive the brand-new drivetrain, but we predict it will be the 2018 Ascent crossover scheduled to make its debut at this year’s Los Angeles Auto Show.
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Full electrification will arrive in 2021, still according to the Japan Times. The newspaper learned Subaru will begin by electrifying existing models like the Outback, the Forester, and even the smaller Impreza. They’ll retain all-wheel drive in a bid to lure existing owners into showrooms. Production will take place in Japan.

Developing a battery-electric powertrain is an expensive enterprise, especially for a brand like Subaru which remains relatively small in spite of its seemingly infinite streak of sales records. To that end, company officials could decide to join Toyota and Mazda in a recently formed, yet-unnamed joint venture that aims, among other goals, to bring electric technology to the masses in a cost-effective way.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:15 PM   #2
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:43 PM   #3
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I'll believe it when I see it. And even then, I'd like to know how Subaru handles the AWD system when they go electric. I'm not holding out hope for anything better than the crappy AWD the Highlander has in hybrid form.
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Old 11-28-2017, 03:50 PM   #4
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How do you even make a Boxer D/C Motor?


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Old 12-04-2017, 11:25 AM   #5
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The article in the Japan Times at https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...es-japan-2021/ paints a different picture.
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Subaru to introduce all-electric vehicles in Japan by 2021

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Subaru Corp. will introduce a series of all-electric cars in Japan as early as 2021, sources said, as competition intensifies between automakers looking to develop eco-friendly cars in response to stricter global emissions regulations.

The carmaker will initially focus on releasing electric versions of its established gasoline-powered models — like the Legacy Outback, Forester sport utility vehicle and Impreza — in order to attract existing customers and brand enthusiasts.

The electric vehicles will likely be manufactured at its plant in Gunma Prefecture, the sources said.

Carmakers around the world are in a race to develop the technology, with Nissan Motor Co. and Mitsubishi Motors Corp. leading the way in Japan, while Honda Motor Co. also announced last month it is planning to launch compact electric vehicles for city driving in the domestic market in 2020.

Subaru is also considering selling its electric vehicles in the North American market, which is known for its stricter environmental regulations. The carmaker makes 60 percent of its global sales in the region.

The carmaker is aiming to develop electric vehicles that perform well on environmental benchmarks while remaining fun to drive, in line with the company’s motorsports and recreation-friendly image, according to the sources.

Subaru is also considering joining a new company set up by Toyota Motor Corp. and Mazda Motor Corp. to develop electric drivetrain technologies. Subaru could possibly build its electric vehicles using the jointly-developed technologies in the future, but is likely to use proprietary systems in its first forays into the market due to the long lead-time required to develop the technology.

The carmaker is also planning to start selling plug-in hybrids in the United States in 2018. Subaru will likely stop producing diesel-powered vehicles available in the European and Australian markets around fiscal 2020 to focus on electric vehicles.

The move toward low-emissions cars comes as Subaru is struggling to improve its brand image, which has been tarnished by a scandal in which unauthorized workers were found to have been carrying out final product inspections in its plants.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:05 AM   #6
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what's the electric motor equivalent of ringland failure?
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:38 AM   #8
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what's the electric motor equivalent of ringland failure?
battery fires?
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Imagine a perfectly reliable Subaru motor and virtually no maintenance in a fast, quiet, AWD vehicle. Sounds pretty good to me.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:17 PM   #10
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I have had 8 such vehicles. All had ICE. Perfectly reliable and never failed. Since 1999 all my subarus have been 100% perfect.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:17 AM   #11
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Imagine a perfectly reliable Subaru motor and virtually no maintenance in a fast, quiet, AWD vehicle. Sounds pretty good to me.
Because electric motors never fail?
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I have had 8 such vehicles. All had ICE. Perfectly reliable and never failed. Since 1999 all my subarus have been 100% perfect.
Now you are doing the same thing in every electric vehicle discussion in N&R.

Quit whining like a child about battery powered vehicles.
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The lack of a manual transmission is what kills me about electric cars. Not to mention the question of stability and traction control...

Does anyone know if they allow you to completely disable traction/stability control on EV vehicles?

I imagine they will make it permanent since they have A LOT more control over traction, power distribution, etc in electric vehicles. I don't care where my car gets its power from, but it would absolutely kill the fun of driving if you don't get to break the tires loose around corners and rip the hand break every once in a while.

Where is the sport of driving at that point? Picking the best turn angle? Putting your foot to the floor 1/2 inch less than the other guy? adjusting your seat forward 1 setting more? Every car would have exactly the same limits programed into its soleless harddrive...
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:54 AM   #14
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Manual transmissions have been on the endangered list way before EV encroachment. Unfortunately I think soon they will only be available on bespoke high end vehicles.
As far as driving dynamics I do think you will be able get cars that can step out. But it will have to be one that is focused on that. Your average family sedan will be focused on safety and gizmos.
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