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Old 04-12-2017, 11:48 AM   #1
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Subaru Ascent SUV concept makes world debut at the 2017 New York International Auto Show
  • Subaru confirms future 3-row SUV will be named Subaru Ascent
  • The Ascent will be powered by an all-new turbocharged DI Boxer Engine
  • Ascent SUV Concept showcases 7 passenger interior

NEW YORK - Subaru of America, Inc., which this month posted its 64th consecutive month of record-breaking sales, today made the world debut of the Subaru Ascent SUV Concept. The styling concept also confirms the name Ascent for the upcoming Subaru 3-row SUV. Both the design concept and the production Ascent will feature an all-new turbocharged direct injection boxer engine.

The exterior design of the concept follows Subaru’s “Dynamic x Solid” theme with powerful fender flares representing Subaru’s all-wheel drive system and a large, bluff grille denoting a true SUV look. The interior of the concept features a flowing dashboard design and a 7-passenger configuration with center captain’s chairs.
The Ascent production model will be based on a modified version of the Subaru Global Platform that debuted last year. The model will be built at Subaru of Indiana, Inc. in Lafayette, Indiana and will be sold exclusively in the North American market starting in 2018.

Specifications:
Body size: (Length x Width x Height) 198.8 x 78.3 x 72.4 inches
Wheelbase: 117 inches
Tire Size: 275/50 R21
Seating Capacity: 7







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Subaru Of America, Inc. Presents All-New 2019 Ascent 3-Row SUV
  • Largest Subaru ever with choice of seven- or eight- passenger configurations
  • Family-sized SUV built for versatility, comfort and safety
  • Designed for excellent interior comfort, passenger access and cargo capacity
  • All-new turbocharged 260-hp BOXER® engine
  • Standard EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology
  • 5,000 lb. maximum towing capacity
  • New 4G LTE Wi-Fi
  • Standard Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive
  • Ascent to be built in Lafayette, IN

Subaru of America Inc., building on nine consecutive years of sales growth, today debuted the all-new 2019 Ascent. The highly anticipated three-row SUV is the biggest Subaru ever built and is designed for active families on-the-go. Expanding on renowned Subaru strengths, the Ascent delivers an unparalleled driving experience with a spacious interior, comfortable and flexible seating options and a host of new safety, driver assist and in-vehicle technologies.

The Ascent is an all-new model and comes with three rows of seating, with available bench or captain’s chairs in the second row. The SUV is built on a strengthened and extended version of the Subaru Global Platform with extensive use of high-strength steel. With a focus on durability, rigidity and vibration resistance, the Ascent platform is designed to provide a quiet interior and excellent driving feel. Powered by an all-new 2.4-liter BOXER engine, the Ascent comes standard with a new version of Subaru’s high-torque Lineartronic® CVT (continuously variable transmission) and legendary Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive system– all wrapped in a stylish and rugged design with a commanding presence. The new U.S.-built Ascent will be available in base, Premium, Limited and Touring trim lines when it arrives in Subaru retailers in early summer.

The Family-focused SUV
The all-new Ascent, with a 113.8-in. wheelbase, is the largest Subaru ever built and is the mobile headquarters for the entire family. With 153.5 cubic feet of passenger volume, plus ample cargo space, the Ascent provides room for every passenger and their gear. Rear doors open 75 degrees for improved access to the third row. Eight USB charging ports are available throughout the cabin and a 120-volt power outlet based in the rear of the center console allow charging for multiple electronic devices. With 19 standard cup and bottle holders, every passenger’s beverage is secure and close at hand.

Standard three- zone automatic climate control ensures all passengers stay comfortable, with large air vents for all three rows. Second row reading lights are standard on all models with third row lights standard on Premium, Limited and Touring. Ambient and footwell lighting is also available throughout the cabin.

The Ascent features available power adjustable front seats with lumbar support and a length adjustment function for the driver seat cushion. Front and second row heated seats are available as part of the All-Weather Package for Premium models, while Limited and Touring trims add a heated steering wheel. Also standard on Touring models are ventilated driver and front passenger seats.

The new Subaru Global Platform integrates new framework with optimized cross sections and highly stiffened joints between structures to significantly enhance straight-line stability, agility, and ride comfort while suppressing noise, vibration and harshness to a degree not seen before in the mid-size SUV class. The Ascent provides a refined, quiet ride thanks to comprehensive soundproofing measures, including an acoustic windshield and front door glass.

Styling and Versatility
The Ascent’s exterior builds on Subaru’s “Dynamic x Solid” design philosophy to create an SUV with a commanding presence. The all-new SUV incorporates the brand’s signature hexagonal grille and C-shaped headlights that are reminiscent of pistons moving inside a BOXER engine. Prominent wheel arches emphasize Subaru’s Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive and flow into a horizontal character line and are also mirrored in the flared lower sills for a solid and powerful look. Lower side and wheel arch cladding provide a rugged and capable appearance. The dramatic new look carries into the cabin and starts from the central zone and flows outward to create a rich and spacious feel.

The Ascent is the most versatile Subaru ever with up to nine unique seating configurations and two rows of 60/40 split flat-folding seats offering up to 72.6 cubic feet of cargo space. The Ascent comes standard with a second row bench seat, providing room for up to 8 passengers. Premium and above trim levels offer second row captain’s chairs as a no-cost option and provide occupants with easier access to the third-row. Wide rear door openings, steep C-pillar angles and low entrance point allow easy access for both second and third row passengers. The standard roof rails allow for a number of accessories for carrying items such as bicycles and kayaks.

Performance and Capability
The 2019 Ascent offers the optimal blend of SUV capability and car-like ride and handling with standard Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive, 18- inch wheels and four-wheel independent suspension. The 8.7 inches of ground clearance for all models is greater than many SUVs, yet the Ascent maintains a comfortably low step-in height for both front and rear passenger entry. Active Torque Vectoring, first introduced on the WRX ® and WRX STI® performance models, is also standard.

The three-row SUV is powered by an all-new 2.4-liter BOXER engine that uses a combination of direct fuel injection, high compression (10.6:1), Subaru Dual Active Valve Control System (DAVCS), a twin-scroll turbocharger and an intercooler to achieve outstanding performance and high efficiency. The engine produces 260 horsepower at 5,600 rpm, accompanied by a broad torque curve that peaks at 277 lb.ft. over a 2,000-4,800-rpm engine speed range. All trim levels are paired with a high-torque Lineartronic CVT featuring an 8-speed manual mode function with steering wheel paddle shifters as well as X-Mode® with Hill Descent Control. This powertrain allows up to 5,000-lb. towing capacity, the most of any Subaru in history. Trailer Stability Assist helps to maintain vehicle stability while towing. The TSA system utilizes yaw sensors to monitor trailer sway and then can brake individual wheels to stabilize the vehicle and trailer. The Ascent is not only powerful but also efficient with exemplary fuel economy that provides more than a 500-mile range on a single tank.

SUBARU STARLINK™ In-Vehicle Technology
The Ascent offers the latest STARLINK multimedia systems with a multi-touch high-resolution display screen that features smartphone integration with Apple CarPlay™ and Android® Auto, Aha™and Pandora®, as well as Bluetooth® hands-free phone connectivity and audio streaming, rear vision camera and SiriusXM ® services. Ascent comes standard with 6.5” Multimedia System and higher trim levels feature 8” Multimedia Plus and 8” Multimedia Navigation systems.

For the first time, available in-car Wi-Fi connectivity provides smooth internet access via high-speed LTE™ communications, broadening the range of entertainment options available to second and third row occupants using smart devices.

SUBARU STARLINK Connected Services now offers remote engine start (on models with push-button start); concierge service; anti-theft vehicle immobilizer with flashing vehicle security lights; child safety functions including geofencing, speed alert and curfew; and firmware updates over the air.

Also available is the Safety Plus package that offers SOS emergency assistance, enhanced roadside assistance, automatic collision notification, maintenance notifications, monthly vehicle health report, and diagnostic alerts. The Safety Plus & Security Plus upgrade package adds stolen vehicle recovery service, vehicle security alarm notification, remote lock/unlock, remote horn and lights and remote vehicle locator.

Advanced Safety Features
The 2019 Ascent comes standard with EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology that includes Automatic Pre-Collision Braking, Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Departure and Sway Warning, Pre-Collision Throttle Management, and new EyeSight Assist Monitor (EAM) which provides a heads-up display of the EyeSight system warnings as well as system status information on the windshield of the vehicle. Blind Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Rear Cross Traffic Alert are also available. Steering Responsive Headlights are standard on Limited and Touring models. High Beam Assist automatically activates and deactivates the high beams when the system detects a vehicle ahead or oncoming vehicle. The 2019 Ascent also offers available Reverse Automatic Braking that apply the vehicle’s brakes if an obstacle is detected while reversing.

Standard on the top-level Touring trim is the new Front View Monitor that displays a 180-degree view of the front of the vehicle on the multi-function display by using a camera located in the front grille. Additional new driver assist technology standard on Touring is the Smart Rear View Mirror which displays a view from behind the vehicle from a camera mounted above the rear gate glass, when activated. This feature benefits the driver in poor visibility to the rear of the vehicle due to passengers or cargo blocking the view.

A Rain Sensing Windshield Wiper system that automatically operates and monitors the wiper speed based on the amount of rainfall is standard on Touring.

The Ascent’s new platform integrates the latest version of the Subaru ring-shaped reinforcement frame design, proven over nearly two decades to provide excellent occupant collision protection. Front-end structural details help bolster safety for pedestrians.

Inside, the Ascent fills out its safety roster with the Subaru Advanced Frontal Airbags, a driver’s knee airbag, standard front side pelvis/torso airbags and side curtain airbags that offer front and rear outboard seat coverage. In emergency braking, Brake Assist immediately applies pressure up to the ABS limit to help increase braking effectiveness. The Brake Override System ensures that the engine power will be cut when the brake pedal and accelerator are pressed simultaneously.

Four Trim Levels
The 2019 Subaru Ascent will be offered in four trim levels: base, Premium, Limited and Touring. The base starts with an extensive roster of standard features that includes EyeSight with automatic emergency braking and lane keep assist; a 6.5-inch multimedia touchscreen; Android Auto and Apple CarPlay; four USB ports; three zone automatic climate control; automatic power door locks and power side mirrors; raised roof rails; second-row bench seat (8 passengers); 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with silver finish: 19 cup and bottle holders; multi-function display; and security system with engine immobilizer. Standard on all models is Auto Vehicle Hold which keeps the vehicle in position at a stop so the driver does not need to continuously depress the brake pedal. For the first time in a Subaru, a convex cabin-view mirror that allows the driver and front passenger to view occupants in the second and third row is standard equipment. The Premium trim adds Blind-Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert; towing capability up to 5,000 lb.; power driver seat; unique spill-repellent cloth upholstery in either black or ivory; 8.0-inch multimedia touchscreen; Wi-Fi connectivity; body-color side mirrors; privacy glass; leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift lever handle; rear seat climate controls; 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels in gray with machine finish; and the All-Weather Package with heated exterior mirrors, 3-mode heated front seats and windshield wiper de-icer. Stepping up to the Premium trim allows wider option availability, including second-row captain’s chairs; Reverse Automatic Braking; 20-inch dark gray with machine finish wheels; and a panoramic moonroof. Also available is a power rear gate with height memory; Keyless Access with Push-Button Start; 8.0-inch Multimedia Navigation system; auto dimming rear view mirror; and a tonneau cover to conceal cargo.

The Limited includes all the Premium trim features and adds leather-trimmed upholstery, LED Steering Responsive Headlights with High Beam Assist, LED fog lights and new second-row retractable sunshades. Also standard is a set of 20-inch aluminum-alloy wheels in dark gray with machine finish mounted on 245/50 R20 all season tires. Lower door cladding with chrome accents and body-color side mirrors with integrated turn signals; driver’s seat adjustable thigh support; Reverse Automatic Braking; power rear gate with height memory; and Keyless Access with Push-Button Start are also standard equipment on the Limited. Two additional USB ports are added to Limited, to bring the total number to six.

The top of the line Touring model is distinguished by satin silver side mirrors with integrated turn signals, chrome door handles, chrome front under guard and rear bumper protector. The unique interior features Java Brown leather seats and upholstery; upgraded leather steering wheel and woodgrain-pattern matte finish accent trim. Standard three-mode ventilated driver and front passenger seats enhance the comfort in the Touring model. A total of eight UBS ports and 120-volt power outlet for charging tablets, phones and laptops is standard. The Touring includes all standard features from the Limited and adds the SUBARU STARLINK 8.0-inch Multimedia Navigation system, Harman Kardon® premium audio system with 14 speakers, panoramic power moonroof and rain-sensing wipers. To improve the driver’s view, a unique Smart Rear-View Mirror and a 180-degree front-view camera complete Touring’s comprehensive list of features.

The all-new Ascent will be built in Subaru’s plant in Indiana along with the Outback, Legacy and Impreza.







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It's dimensions are a hair bigger than a current ford explorer. And a foot longer than a ford edge.

Very interested in the power plant. Both edge and explorers have several 6 cylinder offerings and both with turbo 6's, which will be direct completion.
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INTERIOR SHOTS. SECOND AND THIRD ROW! WINNER! Thank you for NOT giving us an annoying center console in the second row like some competitors.

Now we just needs photos of actual adults sitting in all rows.
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INTERIOR SHOTS. SECOND AND THIRD ROW! WINNER! Thank you for NOT giving us an annoying center console in the second row like some competitors.

Now we just needs photos of actual adults sitting in all rows.
It's close to the same size on the interior of the current Highlander and Explorers. 3rd row will be pretty uncomfortable for adults.
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I'm not sure about adults fitting in that back row, but generally these kinds of vehicles aren't for all-adult passengers anyways. Parents up front, teenagers in the middle, younger siblings in the third row. Or any such configuration as that.
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It's dimensions are a hair bigger than a current ford explorer. And a foot longer than a ford edge.

Very interested in the power plant. Both edge and explorers have several 6 cylinder offerings and both with turbo 6's, which will be direct completion.
The Edge is 5 passenger so not a direct competitor. The Explorer, yes. The Ascent will compete with the 2.3 EB I4 and 3.5 V6.

The 3.5 EB V6 in the Explorer is a bit of an oddball performance option in the segment but also for a price premium. It really only competes against the V8 option Durango.
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Looks a lot like the highlander with a nicer front and rear end -- not that its a bad thing. I like it and what also looks like a wider '17 impreza dash layout.

Good to see possible second row climate controls too.
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Really digging the exterior. Looks like a beefy - yet sleek - Subaru.

Exterior seems 95% production ready, maybe different front & rear lower fascia, side mirrors, and smoothed out surfaces on head and tail lights.

Interior looks 50% production ready. I think we can see the basic dash layout and console shapes, along with seat shapes (i.e. non-bolstered 3rd row) and stadium seating layout (increasingly higher 2nd & 3rd row positions), which should provide good visibility for passengers, but decreasing headroom for taller occupants.

Love the panoramic roof. Hope it makes it to the production model. I'm encouraged because Doll mentions it in the video. He also mentions seating for up to 8.
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So at least the 2.4DIT is confirmed now. Maybe that means the EJ257 will finally die.

Now they only need to offer a performance hatchback and I'll switch back to Subaru from Toyota.
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Yeah, this concept looks a lot more production ready at least on the outside than other concepts in the past.
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A good looking cabin a first for Subaru.
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So at least the 2.4DIT is confirmed now. Maybe that means the EJ257 will finally die.

Now they only need to offer a performance hatchback and I'll switch back to Subaru from Toyota.
Did one of the videos mention a 2.4? Sorry, haven't watched any yet.
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I am a bit concerned.

A 4 cylinder 2.4 liter turbo charged engine just does not seem like it will make for a very drivable large vehicle. Most criticism of the Tribeca (aside from looks) was around it's lack of power with the 3.6 liter flat 6 it had.

I can't imagine horse power being a lot higher than 250 ish horsepower and I would fear turbo lag preventing getting low end torque.

I like the looks and interior so far, but I am very concerned it will not perform with that engine...

Anyone else have any feedback?
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I am a bit concerned.

A 4 cylinder 2.4 liter turbo charged engine just does not seem like it will make for a very drivable large vehicle. Most criticism of the Tribeca (aside from looks) was around it's lack of power with the 3.6 liter flat 6 it had.

I can't imagine horse power being a lot higher than 250 ish horsepower and I would fear turbo lag preventing getting low end torque.

I like the looks and interior so far, but I am very concerned it will not perform with that engine...

Anyone else have any feedback?
I feel it's doable with a twin scroll and/or proper tuning. Hell, Audi has the 2.0 liter turbo across their Q3/Q5/Q7 series and doing fine with even a smaller displacement.

Too early to tell, but this might also be the new DIT motor for the MY2020 STI that will inevitably replace the EJ. A 2.4 can easily push over 330hp with the right internals.
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I am a bit concerned.

A 4 cylinder 2.4 liter turbo charged engine just does not seem like it will make for a very drivable large vehicle. Most criticism of the Tribeca (aside from looks) was around it's lack of power with the 3.6 liter flat 6 it had.

I can't imagine horse power being a lot higher than 250 ish horsepower and I would fear turbo lag preventing getting low end torque.

I like the looks and interior so far, but I am very concerned it will not perform with that engine...

Anyone else have any feedback?

Absolutely agree. Not a fan of an engine that small pulling around a 4000lb vehicle. Especially mated to a CVT. Subaru could easily update the 3.6 and get 280 or so HP out of it which would put it in line with a Highlander. Toss a 6 speed or 8 speed from Toyota in it and that's a very compelling vehicle.

Love the size and look of the Ascent. Hate the engine and transmission.

I've purchased 4 Subarus in the past 6 years vs 0 from other manufacturers. Since our first Subaru, we've had close friends and family purchase at least 5 Subarus after speaking with us and/or seeing our vehicles. My wife and are I currently in the market for a vehicle of this size with our second kid on the way, and would love to trade in our Forester on it, but with the turbo 4 cylinder and CVT we will almost assuredly be going in another direction.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely going to sell well because I doubt most people have strong preferences about the engine and transmission. But I wish they hadn't gone in this direction.
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I am a bit concerned.

A 4 cylinder 2.4 liter turbo charged engine just does not seem like it will make for a very drivable large vehicle. Most criticism of the Tribeca (aside from looks) was around it's lack of power with the 3.6 liter flat 6 it had.

I can't imagine horse power being a lot higher than 250 ish horsepower and I would fear turbo lag preventing getting low end torque.

I like the looks and interior so far, but I am very concerned it will not perform with that engine...

Anyone else have any feedback?


The FA20DIT makes 268 hp, no? Looking now tuned in Japan it makes 296 hp.

Seems like a 2.4 liter based on this would be a viable option
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I am a bit concerned.

A 4 cylinder 2.4 liter turbo charged engine just does not seem like it will make for a very drivable large vehicle. Most criticism of the Tribeca (aside from looks) was around it's lack of power with the 3.6 liter flat 6 it had.

I can't imagine horse power being a lot higher than 250 ish horsepower and I would fear turbo lag preventing getting low end torque.

I like the looks and interior so far, but I am very concerned it will not perform with that engine...

Anyone else have any feedback?
The Mazda CX-9 seems to be capable using a 2.5L DIT 4 cylinder and from the first reviews I've seen the high torque made it peppy enough. I think this 2.4L will follow suit... twin scroll, high torque, and proper gearing... I'm guessing it will do just fine.

Don't forget its on the SGP too, which is lighter than any previous Subaru chassis.
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If the H6 could make more than 250 HP "easy" then Subaru would've done that. Obviously for them it peaked out.

As stated, FA20DIT already makes almost 300 HP. No reason to think the Fx24DIT won't be able to pull its weight.
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Absolutely agree. Not a fan of an engine that small pulling around a 4000lb vehicle. Especially mated to a CVT. Subaru could easily update the 3.6 and get 280 or so HP out of it which would put it in line with a Highlander. Toss a 6 speed or 8 speed from Toyota in it and that's a very compelling vehicle.

Love the size and look of the Ascent. Hate the engine and transmission.

I've purchased 4 Subarus in the past 6 years vs 0 from other manufacturers. Since our first Subaru, we've had close friends and family purchase at least 5 Subarus after speaking with us and/or seeing our vehicles. My wife and are I currently in the market for a vehicle of this size with our second kid on the way, and would love to trade in our Forester on it, but with the turbo 4 cylinder and CVT we will almost assuredly be going in another direction.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely going to sell well because I doubt most people have strong preferences about the engine and transmission. But I wish they hadn't gone in this direction.
Ditto,

From my original post, this needs a 6cyl. would love 6 cyl turbo, but lets assume 2.4DIT. So it will compete with explorer 2.3T. We need a sulu oy vey here. This thing is well over 4000lb and 4in. shy of a tahoe. That 4 banger will be in boost all day.

Plus americans want power. look what the buzz at the NY auto show is about? Jeep has a 707hp trackhawk they released. No, I am not saying subaru should be competing with this, but make something spicy that the guys who drove wrx/sti's now with families want to buy. 4500# SUV with a 4cyl turbo and projected cvt?
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:55 PM   #24
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I feel it's doable with a twin scroll and/or proper tuning. Hell, Audi has the 2.0 liter turbo across their Q3/Q5/Q7 series and doing fine with even a smaller displacement.

Too early to tell, but this might also be the new DIT motor for the MY2020 STI that will inevitably replace the EJ. A 2.4 can easily push over 330hp with the right internals.
Exactly. People shouldn't get too worried about the engine until the specs are out and it's been driven. The 2.4 DIT could be tuned for 280-300hp using a smaller turbo for better response and low end torque and do a great job in the Ascent.
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Did one of the videos mention a 2.4? Sorry, haven't watched any yet.
I didn't watch them either since I'm at work, but it's in the various media reports on it. No mention on power though, we'll probably see that in November at the LA Auto Show.
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