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Old 12-28-2018, 12:49 PM   #1
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Default AccessPort v4 any news yet? What features would you like to see?

Hey all, this post is based solely on personal curiosity and there has been absolutely no news on a potential v4 AccessPort as of right now that I am aware of. I'm making this post for two reasons, the first of which is to ask if any of you have heard any news of a potential new AccessPort in the future, and secondly what would you like to see on the new AccessPort? I for one would love to see touch screen integration and wireless connection. Do you guys believe that making the v4 programmable to act as the key on the newer models is a realistically achievable feature? Would love to hear some insight from you guys!
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Old 12-28-2018, 01:15 PM   #2
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There isn't much need for a v4 IMO. The v3 is perfectly capable and reliable in it's current form.

Adding touchscreen functionality is not something I would ever want, and for this application has no benefit over a physical button. Sounds like a bunch of unnecessary complication for what is, at the end of that day, a flash tool. Would also increase cost on the unit.

Wireless is just a bad idea all around when flashing ECU's. If it loses signal or connection during a flash, say hello to your new bricked ecu. If you just want to use an AP for monitoring, there's better/more aesthetically pleasing options.
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Old 01-01-2019, 03:58 PM   #3
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I would personally want:

1. A bigger screen, 8-10" tablet interface.

2. Tile like monitors that can be rearranged/organized as needed.

3. Multitouch and hepatic interface feedback.

4. Realtime tuning parameters can be changed by touch interface (hence the need for a bigger monitor).

4. Customizable alarms based on parameter thresholds.

5. Integrated ATR without the need for a laptop.

6. Integrated removable & rechargeable battery.

7. Wireless ODB2 plug.

8. Auto tuning capability based on a goal oriented AI system.

You are welcome COBB.
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Old 01-01-2019, 05:45 PM   #4
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Forget about touchscreen or actually having a device, just make it into an Android app that supports bluetooth ODBII dongle and be done with it; then everything else is just software.

I can run that Cobb app on my Android head unit or my smartphone if I wanted to.
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:05 PM   #5
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Forget about touchscreen or actually having a device, just make it into an Android app that supports bluetooth ODBII dongle and be done with it; then everything else is just software.

I can run that Cobb app on my Android head unit or my smartphone if I wanted to.
I was hinting at that
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:15 PM   #6
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I would personally want:

1. A bigger screen, 8-10" tablet interface.

2. Tile like monitors that can be rearranged/organized as needed.

3. Multitouch and hepatic interface feedback.

4. Realtime tuning parameters can be changed by touch interface (hence the need for a bigger monitor).

4. Customizable alarms based on parameter thresholds.

5. Integrated ATR without the need for a laptop.

6. Integrated removable & rechargeable battery.

7. Wireless ODB2 plug.

8. Auto tuning capability based on a goal oriented AI system.

You are welcome COBB.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:05 PM   #7
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1. Ability to run staged injectors
2. More inputs for data logging added sensors
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:29 PM   #8
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Hey all, this post is based solely on personal curiosity and there has been absolutely no news on a potential v4 AccessPort as of right now that I am aware of. I'm making this post for two reasons, the first of which is to ask if any of you have heard any news of a potential new AccessPort in the future, and secondly what would you like to see on the new AccessPort? I for one would love to see touch screen integration and wireless connection. Do you guys believe that making the v4 programmable to act as the key on the newer models is a realistically achievable feature? Would love to hear some insight from you guys!
Ability to orient the device in "landscape mode." It would free up some more mounting locations.

An ability to support quick changes. I.E. not having to root through a menu to switch to a Valet real-time map, just tying it to a button press (cancel from "home" to enter quick settings, other buttons for various quick changes).

Some dynamic altering of the real-time maps would be cool, but probably dangerous. Like if the car is under X temp, limit boost/redline. Or switch to a different wastegate map depending on SI-Drive setting.

No touchscreen or wireless, too many failure points for something that really needs to be rock solid (and too much money to build it).

Store the key cycles when the car is flashed.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:12 PM   #9
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:43 PM   #10
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If Cobb wants to add more features and maintain the $650 price I'm all for it. Except a 10" tablet, that destroys the convenience of the AP, horrible idea. But if touch screen and all that other crap is gonna make this a $1000+ ordeal I think they're gonna see a hefty decline in sales.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:59 PM   #11
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Few more that popped in my head while I figure out mounting (again!)

90 degree plug for the bottom of the AP, even if it's just an accessory.
Make the entire rear magnetic.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:39 PM   #12
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I think it would be awesome to have like a 4-5 inch screen and do what edge performance did with the edge insight and there eas system where you can plug any sensing unit you want into and run your switch’s thru it... it’s a really awesome set up I guess it would be good for guys that don’t like a bunch of gauges like myself or sell 2 versions of it one screen and handheld
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:59 AM   #13
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I asked Cobb about this very thing about 4 months ago and they said it's in the very early stages of r&d. I'm holding out getting a v3 and waiting for v4. I don't need to tune my 19 sti just yet.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:31 AM   #14
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You guys do realize that the AP is just flashing the oem ECU correct? Adding inputs and outputs is not realistic because the OEM ECU doesn't have the capacity to do so. There are only so many inputs/outputs available to the OEM ECU. For example, when you want to add fuel pressure sensor, flex fuel or wideband logging you have to replace the TGV inputs or rear o2 inputs. If you want staged injectors, added inputs/outputs, autotune, etc you are in the realm of standalone ECUs like Haltech Elite, AEM Infinity and so on. This is a flash programmer that is limited by the computer you are flashing, nothing more. Look at comparable flash programmers and their price points and tell me that the Cobb AP doesn't fit right in there towards the top of the list. HPTuners($650 plus credits and no screen), Diablosport Trinity($600 plus optional features), SCT X4($400 but lacking in many ways). The Elite 1500 is around $1500-1700 and has all of those additional features and inputs/outputs that a flash programmer is lacking. AEM Infinity is about $1400. With all of that said I think the AP is priced right where it should be for the features that it is capable of offering.

I'd like to see the customizable alarms as mentioned previously and a landscape display option. Aside from those I've been very happy with the V3 AP and it's capability as a flash programmer.
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You guys do realize that the AP is just flashing the oem ECU correct? Adding inputs and outputs is not realistic because the OEM ECU doesn't have the capacity to do so. There are only so many inputs/outputs available to the OEM ECU. For example, when you want to add fuel pressure sensor, flex fuel or wideband logging you have to replace the TGV inputs or rear o2 inputs. If you want staged injectors, added inputs/outputs, autotune, etc you are in the realm of standalone ECUs like Haltech Elite, AEM Infinity and so on. This is a flash programmer that is limited by the computer you are flashing, nothing more. Look at comparable flash programmers and their price points and tell me that the Cobb AP doesn't fit right in there towards the top of the list. HPTuners($650 plus credits and no screen), Diablosport Trinity($600 plus optional features), SCT X4($400 but lacking in many ways). The Elite 1500 is around $1500-1700 and has all of those additional features and inputs/outputs that a flash programmer is lacking. AEM Infinity is about $1400. With all of that said I think the AP is priced right where it should be for the features that it is capable of offering.

I'd like to see the customizable alarms as mentioned previously and a landscape display option. Aside from those I've been very happy with the V3 AP and it's capability as a flash programmer.
https://www.cobbtuning.com/cobb-can-...re-monitoring/

Currently on the GT-R, but other platforms probably in the works.
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https://www.cobbtuning.com/cobb-can-...re-monitoring/

Currently on the GT-R, but other platforms probably in the works.
You're right, I completely forgot that these newer Subaru platforms operate on a CAN system.
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Ability to orient the device in "landscape mode." It would free up some more mounting locations.

An ability to support quick changes. I.E. not having to root through a menu to switch to a Valet real-time map, just tying it to a button press (cancel from "home" to enter quick settings, other buttons for various quick changes).

Some dynamic altering of the real-time maps would be cool, but probably dangerous. Like if the car is under X temp, limit boost/redline. Or switch to a different wastegate map depending on SI-Drive setting.

No touchscreen or wireless, too many failure points for something that really needs to be rock solid (and too much money to build it).

Store the key cycles when the car is flashed.

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Old 08-16-2019, 10:20 AM   #18
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Forget about touchscreen or actually having a device, just make it into an Android app that supports bluetooth ODBII dongle and be done with it; then everything else is just software.

I can run that Cobb app on my Android head unit or my smartphone if I wanted to.
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I was hinting at that
Yes! An Android Phone or tablet has 100x the power of the AccessPort. I would take it one step farther and have some sort of hardware interface that you can connect Sensors to. Boost, Wideband, EGT, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and any other aftermarket gauge you can monitor could be connected to the interface module and monitored via the app and used to refine your tune or even add safety measures. Boost Cuts, Power Cuts for low Oil pressure, reduced power until oil temp and coolant temp are up operating temp.

I am sure people would still pay $100-$200 for a super powerful app and I assume most people would want the expandability of the interface module.
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