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Old 06-21-2019, 12:16 PM   #2876
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Yeah dude, I literally measured nothing. not even the piston rings.

New case halves, Eagle rods, reused 55k mile crank, standard bearings and Manley graded B drop ins.

slapped it together. just crossed 25k miles last weekend.
I was like overboard with measurements building this block. Darton sleeved cases with a fresh line bore, new crank, replaced the rod which spun the bearing (Manley H-Tuff Rods), King bearings, Manley pistons, L19 head studs, built heads etc. etc.
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:19 PM   #2877
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I thought I launched hard to get my 1.80 60', which net me a 12.4 on an 8,700 DA day and I wasn't hitting boost. I'll be more than happy if I can knock out an 11-second time up here with my little turbo.


Because oil is getting pushed through our turbo's. There are other references where, I believe BW, states that you can use a restrictor with higher oil pressures.
I went to Orlando speed world which is almost at sea level, launched at 5k

No restrictor here, even with the 12mm pump, and no smoke issues
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Old 06-21-2019, 12:25 PM   #2878
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I was like overboard with measurements building this block. Darton sleeved cases with a fresh line bore, new crank, replaced the rod which spun the bearing (Manley H-Tuff Rods), King bearings, Manley pistons, L19 head studs, built heads etc. etc.
yeah im building another block because im suprised this one has lasted this long. Going to go closed deck, but unsure on what pistons to go with.
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Old 06-21-2019, 02:07 PM   #2879
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I went to Orlando speed world which is almost at sea level, launched at 5k

No restrictor here, even with the 12mm pump, and no smoke issues
I never had smoke issues, but I could see some oil leaking out of the bottom of the cartridge, over time. Additionally, I would get a faint burnt oil smell.

I may have had some smoke on cruise after a hard drive, but I couldn't never really make certain while driving up the dirt road to my house at a slow speed.



Running an external oil cooler, probably undersized by my standards, will help keep that pressure at bay.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:20 PM   #2880
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Waddlz and I went to the dyno yesterday. He wanted to finally bump the power and I wanted to check my tune, which I did in a dyno in Omaha, up at high altitude. I tried some things, but the map I made on the last dyno is what I went back to. My 6758 falls off up top, way up here. It did not help that it was a 90+ degree day. From what I've read, this DYNOmite reads 11-14% lower than a DynoJet, so I am happy with the numbers. Altitude was around 5,5xx ft and about 90F.








Kevin should be faster than me now. He made a good bit more power than me with his 7163. I ran out of WGDC on his car trying to hold 29 PSI. I believe hell be doing a 4-port now. Here is his graph, 19 PSI tapering to 25.

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Old 06-29-2019, 09:30 PM   #2881
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How much psi are you trying to hold at redline?

I couldn't get past 26 pounds @7k with a 24 sprung single port TS WG and hybrid boost.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:34 PM   #2882
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On a 7163?

I'll give it what it takes, but WGDC was maxed out. Hybrid results to an MBC, so it won't have any help keeping the wastegate shut.

Kevin has an EWG, so he won't just blow it open. If it won't hold 29 PSI, we'll take what we can get... But I have a street log holding 27 PSI flat, last year.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:48 PM   #2883
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Yes - on a 7163. At sea level.
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Old 06-29-2019, 09:51 PM   #2884
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We'll see what it does, but I think it will hold 28-29 up top.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:06 PM   #2885
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I've been digging through logs since I posted last. You had me curious.

I was wrong with my numbers above - I held 28-28.5 to 7k after the WG spring upgrade. Target was 34. Before the spring upgrade I was at 26 psi / 7k.
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Old 07-11-2019, 12:01 AM   #2886
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On the street, the turbo is holding much better. Also, Kevin does not use both ports on the EWG, so we'll change that after Street Car Takeover this weekend. He should smoke me now.

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Old 07-18-2019, 11:52 AM   #2887
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I’ve been reading this thread with interest as I’m on the hunt for the best performing stock location setup on the market and keep getting drawn back to the EFR7163. I have to stay stock location, TMIC, UEL Headers to meet regulations and annual inspections in Switzerland, where I am. I would like to maximize this setup considering those constraints and have basically been looking at;

Turbokit
Full Race EFR Stock Location kit V band (up/down pipe, headers etc) or BNM Fabrications
EFR7163 0.85a/r (indy style vband in/out housing)
Turbosmart IWG Dual Port or EWG recirculated (efr’s too many problems holding boost)

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IAG Closed Deck Stage 2.5 or Stage 3

Intake:
Spec C intake Manifold
Grimmspeed or Spearco TMIC (paint to look stock STI)
3in Inlet AMR or Perrin 3in inlet
KStech 73mm Intake or APS 70mm
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Fueling:
ID 1300’s
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Walbro 450 E85 pump hardwired
Radium Fuel Pressure Regulator or Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pressure Regulator
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Can anyone provide some criticisms or improvements on this setup? What can I learn from your EFR7163 setups?

Should I aim for any headwork or not? IAG Stage Heads?

Other option would be a Spoolinator with a GTX3067-R or GTX3071 Gen2...
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:41 AM   #2888
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Other option would be a Spoolinator with a GTX3067-R or GTX3071 Gen2...
I am looking at building a setup with the EFR7163 as well for my version 9 EJ207. I think the G25-660 or G25-550 are a bit more comparable to the EFR lineup. Unfortunately there isnt a whole lot of data on them just yet :/

Good call on BNM as well! I just placed an order with him too!
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:52 AM   #2889
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I am looking at building a setup with the EFR7163 as well for my version 9 EJ207. I think the G25-660 or G25-550 are a bit more comparable to the EFR lineup. Unfortunately there isnt a whole lot of data on them just yet :/

Good call on BNM as well! I just placed an order with him too!


The BNM is nice, just hope you anticipate quite a wait. Took me 20 months for my fogturbo kit using the IRL 7163... Itís basically art though so Iím okay about it.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:25 PM   #2890
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I am looking at building a setup with the EFR7163 as well for my version 9 EJ207. I think the G25-660 or G25-550 are a bit more comparable to the EFR lineup. Unfortunately there isnt a whole lot of data on them just yet :/

Good call on BNM as well! I just placed an order with him too!
Check out the Speed Academy channel on YouTube. They put a stroker EJ207 in an 08 STI with a G25-660. They are going to dyno it with both hotside options after break in...so we should have a little bit of data to help our decision making sometime soon.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:52 PM   #2891
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A local to me had a G25-660 and he put down 505 whp 480ish wtq at 28 psi of boost on E85. I know its just 1 car, but its something
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