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08-17-2013, 10:33 AM | #1 |
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Please help - Forester Alternatives? Need fast wagon
My last 4 cars are a BMW M5, Mini Cooper S and TWO Forester XT's (one was an STI conversion) I love fast and fun cars, but need the trunk space of a Forester while hauling kids.
I wanted a clean 2008 FXT Sport but now they're nearly 6 years old and hard to come by so I'm considering other cars. And with the manual being gone while staying with the older style trans, I'm not sure I can do a newer FXT. if they did a DSG gearbox I'd probably already own one. Wishlist:
Any recommendations? Audi, Volvo are the only ones that come to mind and I don't want the Audi's repairs and Volvo V70R's are impossible to find. Subaru Forester XT Sport 08 Volvo V70R Audi
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08-17-2013, 10:38 AM | #2 |
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Sounds like you are looking at used? Why not a new one? Go drive one. You may raise an eyebrow.
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08-17-2013, 10:39 AM | #3 |
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Any Mercedes AMG wagon.
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08-17-2013, 10:46 AM | #4 |
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What's your budget, and CTS-V Wagon.
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08-17-2013, 10:51 AM | #5 |
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Outback xt?
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08-17-2013, 11:40 AM | #6 |
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08-17-2013, 12:02 PM | #7 |
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Porsche Cayenne of course!
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08-17-2013, 12:07 PM | #8 |
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08-17-2013, 12:22 PM | #9 |
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An OBXT can make plenty of power. Mine still makes my wife car sick when I accelerate quickly. Been driving it for almost 4 years. It's the handling that really needs attention.
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08-17-2013, 01:03 PM | #10 |
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Sorry I didn't mention budget $15-$25k. Since I put 30k highway miles per year on cars and live where snow and salt rules the roads in winter I can't justify spending more on a daily driver.
I test drove some Outback XT's before getting my last forester and while I loved them and the trunk space, the handling was even more "gushy" than my Foresters were. I believe they have the same trans as well? Last edited by jctjct; 08-17-2013 at 01:10 PM. |
08-17-2013, 01:20 PM | #11 |
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08-17-2013, 02:47 PM | #12 |
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08-17-2013, 03:17 PM | #13 |
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08-17-2013, 03:19 PM | #14 | |
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08-17-2013, 03:23 PM | #15 |
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How about an older BMW 540i wagon? 6 speed V8 |
08-17-2013, 04:16 PM | #16 |
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If you're trying to fit FIVE people AND their gear into a wagon, its not going to happen. You might want to start looking at minivans and SUV's like the Yukon, Explorer, etc..
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08-17-2013, 04:47 PM | #17 |
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I find my wife's '08 Forester crowded enough with just us two and my two year old. The car seat kills front leg room IMO/IME and he usually sits behind me so my wife can have easy access to him (I always drive when I'm in the car). My knee are usually just an inch or so from the dash. Lately, my wife has been sitting behind me so i have more room (but she is cramped).
Cargo space is tight for trips but doable. However, I couldn't see hauling crap for 3 let alone 4 or 5 people in that thing with any hope of comfort. ....I have hip and lower back problems to boot so its worse for me. We have been looking at the Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland the last couple of years as a replacement. We may make that happen in the next year or so. I sat in a couple and really liked it. We'll see how it goes when we get serious about buying something. |
08-17-2013, 04:52 PM | #18 |
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08-17-2013, 05:30 PM | #19 |
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Even an A6 Avant, regardless of how you pretty it up, can't get past the fact that it's just a slightly larger A4 Avant. I'm not sure how tall you are but the rear legroom in the A6 is "okay" by American standards when loaded up with cargo and people. The A4 isn't even enough for 5 adults but for 2 adults and 3 children it's a pinch.
It's too bad though. The main improvement from the SG to the SH was the improved front and rear legroom. Of course as the years go on from 2004 and up the Forester gets heavier and slower but what can you expect if you stay stock? Have you driven any of the '09-'13 XT? If you don't like the 4-speed, try the 2014 Subaru Forester XT with the Sport# on. Some diehard manual fanatics don't mind the CVT but some do still walk away a diehard fanatic after testing the new 2014 Subaru Forester XT. Besides an X1 which is clearly out of your budget, I can't think of a better replacement for a DD than a Subaru Forester XT with the requirement of that cargo capacity. That is, until we get the Legacy GT DIT in the USDM. |
08-17-2013, 05:51 PM | #20 |
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This may sound stupid, but I have a 2012 Hyundai Santa' Fe, put a cargo basket on the roof rack, with a soft cargo bag, and a hitch mount cargo carrier, Family of 4 with gear can go anywhere, and my kids are 5' 9 and 6', it also has 275 HP with a locking diff. and gets over 25 MPG on the highway. granted it's front wheel drive most of the time. It's pretty comfortably on long drives. and has a lot of storage space behind the seats and under the back deck, rear seats recline. I was dead against getting one, but got a good deal on it!
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08-17-2013, 08:43 PM | #21 |
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How often will you be doing 5+ gear trips? Have you considered buying or renting a small trailer when it comes time for those trips?
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08-17-2013, 09:35 PM | #22 |
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08-17-2013, 09:41 PM | #23 |
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08-18-2013, 07:13 AM | #24 |
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my 03 wrx hatch is very long road trip capable - has 206k miles so hat's 20k miles a year. It's fast but on trips I use the cruise control and avoid speeding tickets.
We had an 03 toyota highlander - lots of room and great road car that got 24 mpg. Sold that and bought a '13 outback, 2.5l cvt trans gets 28 highway. Lots of room and great road car. |
08-18-2013, 08:56 AM | #25 |
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I like my fxt, gives you pretty much all the modding potential of a turbo impreza, with a bit more room in the ass.
plus it draws 0 attention. and i'd far rather own an old high mileage subaru and an old high mileage anything european. much easier to fix at home, even if you're a retard like me |
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