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01-30-2010, 08:19 AM | #1 | |
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01-30-2010, 09:21 AM | #2 |
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I think the Patriot and the Compass have proven the car based approach isn't working.
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01-30-2010, 10:21 AM | #3 |
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The failure to bring the Diesel Wrangler proves the Jeep is ****ing a headless monster.
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01-30-2010, 07:06 PM | #4 |
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Jeep is going to be out dropped or Chrysler is going to go bankrupt in less than five years. I do not think they could of picked a worse way to push Jeep. Its going to turn into another bland no difference automaker by losing the only think going for it, utility. Jeep is a very nice niche brand just like Subaru, you are going to take away from the whole brand to make it appeal to every one. They should not be trying to make a Jeep for ever one.
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01-30-2010, 10:26 PM | #5 |
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The reason the more off-road versions do better is that 90% of the people who buy jeeps are too stupid to realize that they don't ever drive off road and are willing to put up with the shortcomings of driving such vehicles on the road. So that they will have the capability if they so choose to drive off the road for some reason.
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01-30-2010, 10:48 PM | #6 |
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01-31-2010, 04:03 PM | #7 |
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I wouldnt say their a pile of crap. Having driven them I found that they are pretty comfy and for everyday driving they hold up really well. For the price that you pay you get a pretty decent product. I beleive that they are a dying breed due to the fact that now a days their is huge competition for small size suv's and I just dont think that right now they can compete with the likes of honda and toyota. Also there is no point of having the compass and the patriot. They are practically the same vehcile. Throw in the caliber in there as well, its just a little less roomy.
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02-01-2010, 09:43 AM | #8 |
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The Jeep lineup should consist of the Grand Cherokee, Cherokee, Wrangler, Scrambler, and maybe the Commander.
They should absolutely stay away from crossovers until they can come up with something that can actually hold its own offroad. |
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02-02-2010, 11:04 AM | #10 |
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Jeep is doomed to death if Chrysler/ Fiat doesn't do something. It's not rocket science, just basic business math. When you lose over 50% of your sales in a decade, that's a trend that pretty much guarantees you're not going to make it. Current gas prices won't help and I doubt gas prices will be much better in the future. They are far from profitable now at 230k annual unit sales and I doubt Jeep could ever be profitable below 200k unit sales.
The Compass and Patriots were turds. They were no where near competitive in class. From the article, it seems they expect the CUVs to do better outside of the US, but they still have to compete against the CRV and Rav 4. For all you Jeep diesel lovers, you've got no one but yourself to blame. If you wanted a Jeep diesel, you should have bought one when they were available. Neither model did well and I doubt Jeep is in much of a hurry to go down that road again. |
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When was this genius?
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02-02-2010, 11:34 AM | #12 |
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02-02-2010, 11:35 AM | #13 | |
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People wanted a diesel in the Grand Cherokee WJ, instead we got one in the one GC that didn't have a solid front axle. People have wanted a diesel in the Wangler since the TJ came around in '97. 13 years later and we're still waiting. The Chrysler heads are a bunch of dumb bastards especially when it comes to running Jeep. |
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02-02-2010, 11:52 AM | #14 |
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if they were to make the new 4 door wrangler availible in a deisel I would seriously debate on trading in my luxury daily driver thats is an 06 denali for one. The 6 cyl gasoline Wranger wont tow my 10 second sti, and im not sure how it would tow my atv's on my 16 foot trailer.
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I agree. Really im lost when it comes to this whole subject. It might be worth while for chrysler to just die off the jeep brand maybe keep the off-roaders happy with some dodge/jeep cross. There is just to much competition and I dont think that jeep is in the right place right now to take sales from toyota. Seeing toyotas new commercial for the 4runner just shows their off road experience and heritage something I beleive jeep has lost.
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The Wrangler sells exceptionally well and a diesel would bring even more people over. Plus Wranglers are cheap to produce compared to a lot of vehicles since they lack a lot of comforts. The problem Jeep has is money being wasted on stupid **** like the Compass and Patriot. No, Jeep will never sell 1million vehicles in a year, but they can make a good profit from a few purpose built SUVs like the wrangler, cherokee, and grand. The guys running Jeep are deffinitely the dumb bastards. |
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As for the new commercials, they are horrible. "I Live, I Ride, I Am Jeep" is just so... . Nothing else can describe it. vs. Subaru understands. What they need to show is what a jeep can do. See (its the second vehicle): Just look at that jump! See this too: They need to show them out racing, conquering rocks, mud, dirt, king kong - whatever they can throw at it. I personally think that Jeep needs to get involved in Off Road Motorsports - JeepSpeed, rally, that kind of thing. I can only hope. But it is what they need. Last edited by Sokkarr; 02-02-2010 at 10:29 PM. |
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The second vehicle in the third video was a Ford Bronco, not a Jeep. FYI.
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02-02-2010, 11:23 PM | #23 |
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This should be the Jeep Lineup:
Wrangler in all its glory The new Cherokee and... The Fiat Panda Cross restyled to fit the Jeep look: Last edited by darknightohio; 02-02-2010 at 11:39 PM. |
02-03-2010, 12:18 AM | #24 | |
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See and another http://www.jpmagazine.com/featuredve.../photo_03.html Last edited by Sokkarr; 02-03-2010 at 12:29 AM. |
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02-03-2010, 10:46 AM | #25 | |
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These are only 2 examples I found by searching and neither were the ad's I were refering to. Much better then women driving a jeep after a day at the spa. |
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