Tesla Catch All Thread. Hate us cause you ain’t us.

[SCRAPPYDO]

So you hate him finding waste in the government. You are pro fraud, and money laundering. Copy that. Even if only half of what he has found is true, why is that bad. NASA lost 6-8% of its work force. The vast majority of those were retired in place. Nothing negative has come from it. Those monies can now be spent on useful hardware or testing or more repairs at the Cape. I cannot fathom being so insecure about what you drive and the desperate need to distance yourself from the same cult you praised 12 months that you would make that drive your decision not to buy a car that you loved literally moments ago.

Buy what you want, drive what you want. Why let anybody control you.

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[godfather2112]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

So you hate him finding waste in the government. You are pro fraud, and money laundering. Copy that. Even if only half of what he has found is true, why is that bad. NASA lost 6-8% of its work force. The vast majority of those were retired in place. Nothing negative has come from it. Those monies can now be spent on useful hardware or testing or more repairs at the Cape. I cannot fathom being so insecure about what you drive and the desperate need to distance yourself from the same cult you praised 12 months that you would make that drive your decision not to buy a car that you loved literally moments ago.

Buy what you want, drive what you want. Why let anybody control you.

Here’s your only warning. This thread is SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TESLA VEHICLES AND OR ELONS RELATIONSHIP TO TESLA VEHICLES. We are NOT discussing politics. The most I’ll allow is someone saying brand image has been hurt by his comments, political support, and political involvement. Hard stop on anything else.

[juanmedina]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

So you hate him finding waste in the government. You are pro fraud, and money laundering. Copy that. Even if only half of what he has found is true, why is that bad. NASA lost 6-8% of its work force. The vast majority of those were retired in place. Nothing negative has come from it. Those monies can now be spent on useful hardware or testing or more repairs at the Cape. I cannot fathom being so insecure about what you drive and the desperate need to distance yourself from the same cult you praised 12 months that you would make that drive your decision not to buy a car that you loved literally moments ago.

Buy what you want, drive what you want. Why let anybody control you.

Elon=/ Tesla.... although they are really interconnected and it is really hard to keep them separate. I still love my car even after the insanely crushing depreciation; I need to stop being an early adopter. FSD is getting crazy good, I have driven about 30 days 2% myself and 98% the car with one intervention because of navigation and one critical disengagement. However the Chinese are not far behind in autonomy and some probably better in some ways; too bad we cannot get here.

Elon, gosh he is destroying the brand and he only care about himself and not at all his early shareholders and the people that support him and helped him get to where he is. His political support does not align with the core value and mission statement of the company and my values. I have sold 90% of my holdings and only if he is gone I would consider buying but because the product is good compared to their competitors at least here in the USA. We were going to get the Model Y Juniper and my wife said hell no. We are waiting now on the Rivian R2 or maybe the Mazda EZ-60 or if Audi somehow could bring Huawei's autonomy to the states but that's a dream. Elon lost his mind.

[Brahmzy]

I'll say it again. Elon is a gift to humanity.

[WRXterminate]

Originally Posted by juanmedina

Elon=/ Tesla.... although they are really interconnected and it is really hard to keep them separate. I still love my car even after the insanely crushing depreciation; I need to stop being an early adopter. FSD is getting crazy good, I have driven about 30 days 2% myself and 98% the car with one intervention because of navigation and one critical disengagement. However the Chinese are not far behind in autonomy and some probably better in some ways; too bad we cannot get here...if Audi somehow could bring Huawei's autonomy to the states but that's a dream...

Apply this logic to your laptop computer and replace "FSD" with "Windows 11" and "Huawei" with "Chinese clone operating system"... yikes. Do not connect to the network under any circumstances! But I hate Bill Gates, and it is cheaper, so I'm gonna do it... Insane consumerism.

There's a reason why VW teamed up with Rivian for software development and not a Chinese company, and it isn't politics or personality. Rivian should be your second choice, not Huawei anything.

[juanmedina]

Originally Posted by WRXterminate

Apply this logic to your laptop computer and replace "FSD" with "Windows 11" and "Huawei" with "Chinese clone operating system"... yikes. Do not connect to the network under any circumstances! But I hate Bill Gates, and it is cheaper, so I'm gonna do it... Insane consumerism.

There's a reason why VW teamed up with Rivian for software development and not a Chinese company, and it isn't politics or personality. Rivian should be your second choice, not Huawei anything.

Chinese = stupid. USA = supreme. That mentality is why we are in this situation. Audi partnered with Huawei by the way. My uncle has the BYD Song PLUS DM-i for over two years and he loves it. If I had a "choice" right now I would not been driving a Tesla; I would be been driving an Avatr, Zeekr, Aito or a Denza.

My buddy has a Rivian R1S and it is a beautiful SUV but he has had lots of issues with axles, air suspension and inverter. His battery had to be replaced for unrelated reason and that was a $30k bill.

[WRXterminate]

Originally Posted by juanmedina

Chinese = stupid. USA = supreme. That mentality is why we are in this situation. Audi partnered with Huawei by the way. My uncle has the BYD Song PLUS DM-i for over two years and he loves it. If I had a "choice" right now I would not been driving a Tesla; I would be been driving an Avatr, Zeekr, Aito or a Denza.

You are working on old info. Just ask the Google AI...

"Volkswagen (VW) has a partnership with Rivian, not Huawei. This partnership involves a joint venture where VW will utilize Rivian's advanced EV software and electrical architectures in their future electric vehicles. VW is investing $5.8 billion in this joint venture. While VW has a separate licensing agreement with Huawei for 4G technology in certain vehicles, the primary focus of the Rivian partnership is on software and electrical architectures for EVs."

"Volkswagen and Huawei have a multifaceted partnership, primarily focused on autonomous driving technology and connectivity. While they haven't formed a joint venture for autonomous driving, they have a licensing agreement for 4G technology and are exploring collaborations in other areas."

There was only speculation about VW/Audi using Huawei for their next gen self-driving car OS (possibly just restricted to the Chinese market). They wouldn't do something so risky (for Europe/USA market). This has nothing to do with whether the Chinese tech is subpar. It is more of a technological sovereignty and security issue. (There's no point in explaining this in detail on a car forum.) But... Just get a Rivian, dude.

[Berserker2]

Originally Posted by Gixhost

I am personally hoping Lucid catches traction.

Former '18 WRX STI Limited owner here. I recently added a '25 Lucid Air Pure RWD to my fleet. The Air is my first EV; happy to answer any questions about it.

As far as Lucid in general goes:

- In December 2024 the Lucid Air Pure and Touring placed on Car and Driver's 2025 10Best List.

- In February 2025 they ditched their CEO.

- In March of 2025 they had their best sales month ever (but that was still only 1,079 vehicles).

- In April of 2025 they bought the facility and assets of failed electric truck maker Nikola.

- On the last day of April of 2025 they are scheduled to deliver a Gravity SUV to the first customer who is not an employee.

- Right now at the plant in Arizona, construction is underway for a new section of their plant where they intend to build their as-yet-unnamed mid-sized SUV, probably on sale for MY 2027.

So stuff is going on.

As for the sales numbers, while that 1,079 vehicles sold last month is a paltry number, the Lucid Air is a premium vehicle that competes with the Tesla Model S. 96% of Tesla's 2025 Q1 sales was of the more reasonably-priced Tesla model 3 and Y; all other Tesla models accounted for 12,881 total sales - or 4,293/month. Lucid's 1,079 March sales look much more reasonable compared to that.

It seems that what Lucid lacks right now is the actual type of products that most people want to buy: SUVs, and moderately-priced. The Gravity and the planned midsize are Lucid's attempts to address that.

[juanmedina]

Originally Posted by WRXterminate

You are working on old info. Just ask the Google AI...

"Volkswagen (VW) has a partnership with Rivian, not Huawei. This partnership involves a joint venture where VW will utilize Rivian's advanced EV software and electrical architectures in their future electric vehicles. VW is investing $5.8 billion in this joint venture. While VW has a separate licensing agreement with Huawei for 4G technology in certain vehicles, the primary focus of the Rivian partnership is on software and electrical architectures for EVs."

"Volkswagen and Huawei have a multifaceted partnership, primarily focused on autonomous driving technology and connectivity. While they haven't formed a joint venture for autonomous driving, they have a licensing agreement for 4G technology and are exploring collaborations in other areas."

There was only speculation about VW/Audi using Huawei for their next gen self-driving car OS (possibly just restricted to the Chinese market). They wouldn't do something so risky (for Europe/USA market). This has nothing to do with whether the Chinese tech is subpar. It is more of a technological sovereignty and security issue. (There's no point in explaining this in detail on a car forum.) But... Just get a Rivian, dude.

Not old info, Audi announced 2 weeks ago that will work with Huawei in China the biggest electric car market in the world.

Rivian has no ADAS technology and they don't the cash for it. Meanwhile Huawei latest release ADS 3.3 vs Tesla FSD.

ADS 4 will be out mid year and it is now a certified Level 3 meaning that you watch movies, play games, read books etc but not take naps.

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[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by WRXterminate

You are working on old info. Just ask the Google AI...

"Volkswagen (VW) has a partnership with Rivian, not Huawei. This partnership involves a joint venture where VW will utilize Rivian's advanced EV software and electrical architectures in their future electric vehicles. VW is investing $5.8 billion in this joint venture. While VW has a separate licensing agreement with Huawei for 4G technology in certain vehicles, the primary focus of the Rivian partnership is on software and electrical architectures for EVs."

"Volkswagen and Huawei have a multifaceted partnership, primarily focused on autonomous driving technology and connectivity. While they haven't formed a joint venture for autonomous driving, they have a licensing agreement for 4G technology and are exploring collaborations in other areas."

There was only speculation about VW/Audi using Huawei for their next gen self-driving car OS (possibly just restricted to the Chinese market). They wouldn't do something so risky (for Europe/USA market). This has nothing to do with whether the Chinese tech is subpar. It is more of a technological sovereignty and security issue. (There's no point in explaining this in detail on a car forum.) But... Just get a Rivian, dude.

Sooooo if I read between the lines is the new Volkswagon Scout SUV just a remade Rivian?

[rexster]

There’s around a billion dollars in cybertruck inventory in the U.S. right now. That’s impressive. And it can sit on lots for a long time because it won’t rust. Maybe by the time they sell them they will have fixed all the recalls. And the refreshed model Y already has some great lease and financing incentives. I just can’t figure out why higher interest rates seem to be hurting Tesla more than other manufacturers. It’s such a head scratcher.

[SoDealer]

Originally Posted by rexster

There’s around a billion dollars in cybertruck inventory in the U.S. right now. That’s impressive. And it can sit on lots for a long time because it won’t rust. Maybe by the time they sell them they will have fixed all the recalls. And the refreshed model Y already has some great lease and financing incentives. I just can’t figure out why higher interest rates seem to be hurting Tesla more than other manufacturers. It’s such a head scratcher.

captive financing arms are either a part of the manufacturer (Toyota Financial Services) or they are actual banks with a manufacturer facade (Subaru Motors Finance = JP Morgan Chase Bank). Tesla having money problems will impact how much they are willing (or capable) to buy down rates, subvent leases/bolster residuals, and discount vehicles at the same time. They might be having to pick and choose.

[torquemada]

https://electrek.co/2025/05/07/tesla...romised-range/

Tesla confirms it has given up on its Cybertruck range extender to achieve promised range

Update to Your Cybertruck Range Extender Order

Hi [redacted],

Thank you for being a Cybertruck owner.

We are no longer planning to sell the Range Extender for Cybertruck. As a result, we will be refunding your deposit in full. The amount will be returned to the original payment method used for the transaction.

Thank you for your understanding.

The Tesla Team

[godfather2112]

Originally Posted by torquemada

https://electrek.co/2025/05/07/tesla...romised-range/

Just put a diesel generator in the back, plug in cyberjunk, recharge on the go!