Atlanta ProSolo Press Release about Timing.

[KC]

http://www.scca.org/news/press04_33.html

MISSING FORMULA CULPRIT OF SCORING ISSUES
AT ATLANTA THE TIRE RACK SCCA PROSOLO

TOPEKA, Kan. (Feb. 25, 2004) – An error in timing and scoring software was discovered Tuesday through testing by SCCA Solo Officials after several concerns were discussed at the Atlanta ProSolo, Round One of The Tire Rack® SCCA ProSolo NationalSeries.

RaceAmerica, the company that provides timing and scoring equipment for all events in The Tire Rack® SCCA ProSolo Program, was asked to improve its software in an effort to alleviate problems that had surfaced in an earlier version of the scoring program. During the reprogramming, a formula used to include reaction times in overall scores was inadvertently omitted for the left side course.

During Saturday’s action in Atlanta, several competitors questioned the validity of times shown for the courses and a test was performed in order to determine whether a problem existed or not. The test executed on-site came up inconclusive, prompting officials to believe that the angle of the finish lights, on a sloped hill, was causing an optical illusion.

SCCA officials were not aware of the extent of the problem until after the event was completed.

After a round of software testing by Accurate Technology Inc. (ATI) was completed Tuesday afternoon, the missing formula was determined to be the cause of the scoring issues.

Competitors who were at the event will be given the option of keeping points they earned or deciding to make the ProSolo a non-points event. If they choose to make it a non-points event, entrants will be allowed to start the season over and count the best three events out of the next four toward their season point total.

“We apologize for the inconvenience of this issue,” Director of Solo and Road Rally Tasha Goodale said. “And we feel this is the most fair solution for everyone involved.”

Aside from the programming glitch, the ATI scoring system proved to be up for the weather challenge the ProSolo weekend provided. Despite constant rain and chilly temperatures for almost two full days, the display boards and scoring system overall registered scores without fail throughout the event.

The scoring software will be fully operational in time for Round Two of The Tire Rack® SCCA ProSolo NationalSeries, set for March 13-14 in San Bernadino, Calif., at the Norton Airport.

For questions regarding decisions made, please contact Tasha Goodale at 1-800-770-2055.

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I kinda think I know what the answer is going to be... everyone who didn't finish 1st... do-over!

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[MNbiker]

This seems like a pretty evenhanded response by the SCCA. Those who drove well are rewarded. Those who feel slighted get a "mulligan". Now if only Tom & KC didn't have to drive 1,500 miles to take their mulligans. Guess I'll be seeing you guys in Peru, after all....

-Steve

p.s. Now taking bids for the co-driver's spot in my car at Topeka!

[Corey]

Hmmm... I guess I'll keep my points... Funny thinig is, I pulled all .5XX lights on Sunday. At least I got some good practice now.

Corey #89 STS

[wrx2.0 555]

If everyone was subject to the same error, what difference does it make?

Dont all entrants do both left and right courses?

Scott

[steve_d]

and here I thought it was saying it didn't work underwater...

sjd

[dwx]

Originally posted by wrx2.0 555
If everyone was subject to the same error, what difference does it make?

Dont all entrants do both left and right courses?

Scott

Yes everyone does the same courses left and right an equal number of times, so it doesn't make much difference. Even in the super challenge you do both courses head to head.

[trhoppe]

Originally posted by wrx2.0 555
If everyone was subject to the same error, what difference does it make?

Dont all entrants do both left and right courses?

Scott

Yes they do, but in ProSolo reaction times are supposed to count. If someone got a a 0.800 reaction time and beat a person by 0.100 that had 0.500 lights, the person with the 0.500 lights would have normally won the event. That wasn't the case here ON THE LEFT SIDE. Apparently the right side was counting.

Even though Mike King is still a bastard he would have beaten me even if the timers on the left side were correct. We had the reaction time discrepency on the RIGHT. He ran like an 0.800 light and I had a low 0.500. That would have made the difference, but apparently those times were counted. On the LEFT side, he had a 0.550 and I had a 0.506 (or 0.509 I don't remember). Either way, that doesn't make up the 0.040 difference, but it does bring it down to 0.004 mike, did I mention youre a bastard?

Now, I wonder if I should start the season over and run DC,Toledo, Oscoda and have Peru as a backup? Or should I just take my 2nd place points

-Tom

[jbrennen]

Originally posted by KC
I kinda think I know what the answer is going to be... everyone who didn't finish 1st... do-over!

Yes, for those who are hoping for a season championship, that would seem to be mandatory.

For those like me who would just like to qualify for the Finale while doing the minimum amount of travel... I'll keep the 13 points for third place, thank you very much. See you in DC, Toledo, and hopefully Topeka!

[stxwrxracer]

Originally posted by trhoppe

Now, I wonder if I should start the season over and run DC,Toledo, Oscoda and have Peru as a backup? Or should I just take my 2nd place points

-Tom

I'd just start the season over in ESP if I were you...cuz you ain't gonna win STX no mo! Actually I think the WRX will do just fine in ESP...would be fun to beat up on the Camaros and 'Stangs after all the trash they've talked about the STis. Our WRXs are gonna make a much better Pro car than Tour car, I can see that now. We'll see...

~Mike
Da Bastud

[KC]

Originally posted by stxwrxracer
I'd just start the season over in ESP if I were you...cuz you ain't gonna win STX no mo! Actually I think the WRX will do just fine in ESP...would be fun to beat up on the Camaros and 'Stangs after all the trash they've talked about the STis. Our WRXs are gonna make a much better Pro car than Tour car, I can see that now. We'll see...

~Mike
Da Bastud

Especially after Sam's Aol powered Camaro performance last weekend.

--kC

[stxwrxracer]

Exactly!

[trhoppe]

Originally posted by stxwrxracer
I'd just start the season over in ESP if I were you...cuz you ain't gonna win STX no mo! Actually I think the WRX will do just fine in ESP...would be fun to beat up on the Camaros and 'Stangs after all the trash they've talked about the STis. Our WRXs are gonna make a much better Pro car than Tour car, I can see that now. We'll see...

~Mike
Da Bastud

Is that a little trash talk from mikey??

I'm sorry guys, but once the new tranny goes in the car I will have to win the rest of the events. Sorry to dissapoint you and all, but you might as well not even try

-Tom

[Sparks]

I got 5 bucks on Mike

[KC]

While Tom and Mike do the trash talking... Mike distracted by Tom, and Tom distracted by Mike.. I'll just quietly slip into the 1st place position... and RETAIN my titles thankyouverymuch.

--kC

[Sparks]

I still got 5 bucks on Mike

[trhoppe]

Originally posted by Sparks
I still got 5 bucks on Mike

Is that 10 now?

Please up the ante, 10 bucks is a paltry sum compared to the $1000s in subaru $$ I'll take....

-Tom

[DrBiggly]

Originally posted by trhoppe
Is that 10 now?

Please up the ante, 10 bucks is a paltry sum compared to the $1000s in subaru $$ I'll take....

-Tom

The smack talking is getting seriously thick!

*sitting back and enjoying the show*

[Corey]

Originally posted by trhoppe
Is that 10 now?

Please up the ante, 10 bucks is a paltry sum compared to the $1000s in subaru $$ I'll take....

-Tom

Speaking of Subaru $$$... The contingency info came out after the Atlanta PRO, but it says for every event this year... Do we have any chance of colllecting from the Atlanta PRO?

Corey #89 STS

[MNbiker]

Originally posted by trhoppe
Is that 10 now?

Please up the ante, 10 bucks is a paltry sum compared to the $1000s in subaru $$ I'll take....

-Tom

Sorry Tom, my money's on KC..........Wagonz Rule!

Now, if you trade in that boy-racer car for a grocery-gettin' stealth mobile, I might have to change my bet!

-Steve

[dwx]

Originally posted by Corey
Speaking of Subaru $$$... The contingency info came out after the Atlanta PRO, but it says for every event this year... Do we have any chance of colllecting from the Atlanta PRO?

Corey #89 STS

I was going to ask what is required to get the contingency? Did I need Subaru stickers on my car somewhere or is the fact I'm driving one good enough? The scca.org website seems unreachable right now, what were the details of the contingency?

Phil

[dwx]

Originally posted by dwx
I was going to ask what is required to get the contingency? Did I need Subaru stickers on my car somewhere or is the fact I'm driving one good enough? The scca.org website seems unreachable right now, what were the details of the contingency?

Phil

Ok it's back up and answered my questsions. Although I'm not sure about the statement:

"Payouts are presented to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd placed drivers per class in the 2004 The Tire Rack SCCA ProSolo Championship Super Challenge and Ladies Challenge events."

Are they missing a comma so it would then be "ProSolo Championship, Super Challenge, and Ladies Challenge" and would only apply to the year end championship event in Topeka or what?




Phil

[Fastech]

Originally posted by trhoppe
Is that 10 now?

Please up the ante, 10 bucks is a paltry sum compared to the $1000s in subaru $$ I'll take....

-Tom

Vs. the $1000s in Subaru trannies you'll break...

Brian Flanagan
Serial ConeKiller
Designated Taxi

[wrx2.0 555]

Originally posted by Sparks
I got 5,000 bucks on Mike

WOW, thats pretty rich, Shaun, even for you...

[Sparks]

Win enough Pro's and you can afford trannies

[Sparks]

Sorry Scott, it's still 5 BUCKS on Super Man