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Old 05-29-2019, 09:16 AM   #1
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Even before the latest-generation Toyota Supra premiered, there has been hopeful talk that a six-speed manual would soon be offered alongside the current eight-speed automatic.

Hopes were heightened last week following confirmation that the entry-level BMW Z4 sDrive20i in Europe with which the Supra shares its underpinnings will come standard with a manual.

While BMW has yet to say whether or not the six-cylinder variants of the Z4 could also get a stick shift, Automobile reached out to Toyota to see whether the release of a manual Z4 also means that a manual Supra is on the agenda.
Toyota Is Thinking About A Manual Supra But Doesn't Seem Sold On The Idea
Even before the latest-generation Toyota Supra premiered, there has been hopeful talk that a six-speed manual would soon be offered alongside the current eight-speed automatic.

Hopes were heightened last week following confirmation that the entry-level BMW Z4 sDrive20i in Europe with which the Supra shares its underpinnings will come standard with a manual.

While BMW has yet to say whether or not the six-cylinder variants of the Z4 could also get a stick shift, Automobile reached out to Toyota to see whether the release of a manual Z4 also means that a manual Supra is on the agenda.

“We may have heard a time or two (or more) that there’s a desire for a manual transmission in the Supra,” a Toyota spokesperson said. “However, we’re confident in the performance of the current setup . . . We feel it’s the optimal combination for the U.S. market at this time and we’re anxious for customers to drive the new Supra and experience it for themselves. We’ll be sure to check back into the conversation at that time and see what people have to say.”

Evidently, Toyota is thinking about offering the new Supra with a manual transmission but it doesn’t seem sold on the idea of such a model, at least not in the United States. We imagine that if the Supra does get a six-speed option, this transmission option would initially be rolled out to select markets, perhaps including Japan where Toyota knows the Supra has a strong cult following among hardcore driving enthusiasts.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:33 AM   #2
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I can't blame them for not selling a manual from a profit perspective. One of the reasons why manual Mark IV Supras are worth so much is because so few were made (for the US market at least) 25 years ago.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:48 AM   #3
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I suppose toyota doesn't feel the need to treat the supra like the LFA for lexus where they're just doing something to flex and build brand recognition since toyota isn't exactly hurting for cash.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:50 AM   #4
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They have to re-certify the motor with a manual, right? So much dumb red tape.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:52 AM   #5
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They have to re-certify the motor with a manual, right? So much dumb red tape.
Certainly for emissions they do.
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:24 AM   #6
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They have to re-certify the motor with a manual, right? So much dumb red tape.
They would also need new certifications for crash testing since the floorpan and trans tunnel would change. Lot of cash to put up considering the option wont really yield extra profit.
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Old 05-29-2019, 12:46 PM   #7
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There will be a Z4 manual in BMW 4 cyl version so I bet the new Toyota 86/BRZ will be 4 cyl version Supra, They will pump out as many cars as they can on this platform for profits.
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Old 05-29-2019, 12:58 PM   #8
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Certainly for emissions they do.
Yeah, and there's another nail in the coffin for manual transmissions... not just the re-certification process, but the fact that the actual procedure for manual transmissions puts it a disadvantage. Forced shift points in manuals, but automatics get to shift whenever the manufacturer programs it to? No doubt in my mind that automobile manufacturers game the system with shift points in automatic transmissions. Drive any very modern automatic and it's obvious.
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They need to forget about making money on the Supra.. this cars only goal for a while should be to repair the decades of boring Toyota gave us. Give us the Manual and let the assumptions about Toyota get back to the fun of the 80's. It will take time and it will cost money, but it will reinvigorate the whole line up.
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Old 05-29-2019, 03:42 PM   #10
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I believe it will come as I believe the launch model is nothing more than a starting point for a car that's probably going to see several different performance versions added over it's 6 year or more life cycle but Toyota is playing things right by not admitting so. They want to sell as many Supra's today as they can and telling people a manual is coming in a couple of years is a sure fire way put some prospective buyers into a waiting pattern.
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They need to forget about making money on the Supra.. this cars only goal for a while should be to repair the decades of boring Toyota gave us. Give us the Manual and let the assumptions about Toyota get back to the fun of the 80's. It will take time and it will cost money, but it will reinvigorate the whole line up.
There is a difference between cost and actually selling. Also remember that the main point of these vehicles now is magazine bragging rights, and right now the DCT/XSpeed autos are faster.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:50 PM   #12
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I totally posted this in the wrong thread....
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Old 01-13-2022, 07:13 AM   #13
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Is Toyota About To Offer The Supra With A Six-Speed Manual? | Carscoops

The current Toyota Supra is a good sports car but its use of a BMW powertrain has long rubbed some enthusiasts the wrong way. However, the Supra could win over some detractors if rumors about a manual version prove to be true.

To the surprise of many, Toyota decided to launch the new Supra exclusively with an eight-speed automatic transmission despite acknowledging before the car’s unveiling that it had developed a manual version. A new report now claims that the car manufacturer has given the green light to the manual Supra and that it could launch this year.

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Speaking with The Drive, an unnamed Toyota dealership source apparently said that the car is “confirmed”. This follows on from a report in late 2021 that suggested Toyota’s plan was to initially only offer the entry-level 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder model with a six-speed but that the decision has since been made to instead offer it for the flagship 3.0-liter turbo-six.

If true, a manual version of the Toyota 3.0 could serve as the perfect rival to the forthcoming Nissan Z which will be offered with both a Mercedes-sourced automatic transmission and the same six-speed manual as the 370Z.

As if rumors about a manual Supra weren’t enough to get you excited, there is also talk about the car manufacturer reportedly readying a high-performance GRMN variant that could borrow the 3.0-liter twin-turbo S58 inline-six of the BMW M3, where it produces 473 hp and 406 lb-ft (550 Nm) of torque in the standard version and 503 hp and 479 lb-ft (649 Nm) of torque in the Competition.
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thill was right.

And this is all due to the new Nissan Z. Thanks Nissan!
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Old 01-13-2022, 11:23 AM   #15
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this is already confirmed in the actual Supra thread
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:43 PM   #16
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a 6-speed in the 3.0 would put the supra SQUARELY in the center of my radar. As an auto it excites me about as much as my neighbor's Tuscon.
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