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Old 10-17-2019, 09:22 AM   #1326
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Almost swapped racks on my STi, but there was something that was stopping me. Circa 2005ish. Can’t remember exactly, but I think it was a reliability thing or an availability thing. The options back then were limited. Dang that was a long time ago.
I’ve been waiting for a new STI for a long time.
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:53 AM   #1327
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I had a 10.5:1 quick rack on my wrx, that thing was awesome in the twisties
Curious how it was on the highway?
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:18 PM   #1328
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Curious how it was on the highway?
Really. Because the 13:1 on my Impreza is as quick as I think practical on the street... great in the twistys, but with the SDL even imperceptible steering wheel movements change direction, and I love the precision. But a 10.5:1 must require super concentration on the highway.
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Old 10-17-2019, 06:45 PM   #1329
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Never had an issue highway driving, it felt natural to me after getting used to it

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Old 10-17-2019, 10:46 PM   #1330
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Almost swapped racks on my STi, but there was something that was stopping me. Circa 2005ish. Can’t remember exactly, but I think it was a reliability thing or an availability thing. The options back then were limited. Dang that was a long time ago.
I’ve been waiting for a new STI for a long time.
I think I'm about to give up on the new STI. I just have this feeling in my gut that it'll be better in a lot of ways, but severely in a key component. Can't quite put my finger on what it could be, but I'm sure that somewhere else will get the better version than the US, and we'll continue being pissed at Subaru for it.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:52 PM   #1331
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^^ I just hope it’s “good enough”. I remember when the bugeye came out in ‘02. It was so damn ugly, I couldn’t pull the trigger on it. I wanted it so bad, had cash in hand, but had to wait 2 years to buy a WRX, then an STI a year later.
I hope this new STI has both the performance and the looks I can tolerate. Not too absurdedly boy racer and not an ugly duckling
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:20 PM   #1332
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^^ I just hope it’s “good enough”. I remember when the bugeye came out in ‘02. It was so damn ugly, I couldn’t pull the trigger on it. I wanted it so bad, had cash in hand, but had to wait 2 years to buy a WRX, then an STI a year later.
I hope this new STI has both the performance and the looks I can tolerate. Not too absurdedly boy racer and not an ugly duckling


Not to mention the wait is really starting to wear on myself, and Im sure quite a few of us. My ‘13 wrx is badly out of date tech and interior wise at this point, even for a Subaru.

Buying a 2020 is tempting but the possibility of the 2021 being the new model kind of stifles that. It could end up pushing me to another brand unfortunately, if I can continue to wait... we’ll see.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:14 AM   #1333
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It pushed many of us to other brands.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:12 PM   #1334
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I think I'm about to give up on the new STI. I just have this feeling in my gut that it'll be better in a lot of ways, but severely in a key component. Can't quite put my finger on what it could be, but I'm sure that somewhere else will get the better version than the US, and we'll continue being pissed at Subaru for it.
I'm trying to be optimistic, and think it could be my next performance car, but like you, hard to be that optimistic when well the last 10 years has shown otherwise. All I know is if they drop the ball again, I'll be buying my first Chevy. And I really don't want to do that.
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:18 PM   #1335
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Not to mention the wait is really starting to wear on myself, and Im sure quite a few of us. My ‘13 wrx is badly out of date tech and interior wise at this point, even for a Subaru.

Buying a 2020 is tempting but the possibility of the 2021 being the new model kind of stifles that. It could end up pushing me to another brand unfortunately, if I can continue to wait... we’ll see.
I have been waiting with an 06 WRX Wagon my friend.
I was ready to get a new 2015 WRX hatchback or a Levorg (a.k.a. WRX Wagon !) when both Mr Tom Doll and Subaru said "no, shut up, a compact WRX sedan is all you need, and our Legacy 3.6R is good enough if you need bigger".
So, I kept my tried and true 06 GG and I purchased a '15 Dodge Charger RT while waiting for Subaru to bring me back to the fold.
Now, 4 years down the line, the Charger has been paid off, I'm about to sell my 06 GG and still no sign of a low riding performance 5-door on the horizon.
In fact, if I needed a new and fast performance sedan for around $65K, I'd get one of them 2020 Dodge Charger Widebody Hellcat; it's as heavy as a whale but it's very likely lapping VIR within a second of that ringer-forged-piston-bait-and-switch S209 and it's most likely a much better daily driver too.
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Old 10-19-2019, 06:59 PM   #1336
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I had a '98 2.5RS, an '02 WRX, and an '09 STI. With each model there was a huge improvement in performance. The STI has had very similar performance since 2004.

I am sure the S209 has better handling with wider & stickier tires and chassis bracing. It looks like a slight increase in acceleration too. Aside from being able to say you have one of 209 of these limited models, why on earth would you spend $65k on this? You can get significantly better performance in virtually any other serious performance car for significantly less money.

Here is to hoping that the next generation STI is a big improvement, but I am getting tired of waiting for an STI to provide better performance than a similarly priced Mustang or Camaro again like it did way back in 2004.
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:32 PM   #1337
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I had a '98 2.5RS, an '02 WRX, and an '09 STI. With each model there was a huge improvement in performance. The STI has had very similar performance since 2004.

I am sure the S209 has better handling with wider & stickier tires and chassis bracing. It looks like a slight increase in acceleration too. Aside from being able to say you have one of 209 of these limited models, why on earth would you spend $65k on this? You can get significantly better performance in virtually any other serious performance car for significantly less money.

Here is to hoping that the next generation STI is a big improvement, but I am getting tired of waiting for an STI to provide better performance than a similarly priced Mustang or Camaro again like it did way back in 2004.

This thought process has been endlessly beaten to death. If all you care about is straight line and dry weather performance, then why are you even looking at the STI? The whole point of buying an STI is for the AWD system and it's ability to handle well in challenging (and good) weather and road conditions, 4 doors and seats 5 . Also, it's super easy to make 450+whp reliably (if you know what you are doing) on a bone stock EJ STI long block. In addition, the S209 is a finished product and not something you need to make whole sale modifications to after purchase and it has a full factory warranty. However, if all you want to do is modify the crap out of it, then buy the base STI. The S209 isn't for you.

To wrap things up, there's no reason to bitch about the price. If you can't afford 60K, it doesn't manner if it's an S209, Corvette, BMW or some other car in that price range. You can't afford it. So don't bitch about it, instead get a better job.
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Old 10-19-2019, 08:57 PM   #1338
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Pre can't say ANYTHING about my blind loyalty compared to this guy. ^^^^↑↑↑↑

The STI is not worth the price. You don't have to be rich to know that. Only a collector doesn't care about price. That's what this is, a collector's item. They're meant to be overpriced.

As a standard purchase, it doesn't make any sense, and it's okay to complain about it.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:07 PM   #1339
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^^ I just hope it’s “good enough”. I remember when the bugeye came out in ‘02. It was so damn ugly, I couldn’t pull the trigger on it. I wanted it so bad, had cash in hand, but had to wait 2 years to buy a WRX, then an STI a year later.
I hope this new STI has both the performance and the looks I can tolerate. Not too absurdedly boy racer and not an ugly duckling
Completely disagree and you're just a blind complainer.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:10 PM   #1340
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Completely disagree and you're just a blind complainer.
Why is he blind? WRX/STI's have never been lookers. The boy racer wings and scoop may get your attention but the cars themselves have been largely on the homely side. There is no way I could ever own a current model as they look so dated and homely.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:11 PM   #1341
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Pre can't say ANYTHING about my blind loyalty compared to this guy. ^^^^↑↑↑↑

The STI is not worth the price. You don't have to be rich to know that. Only a collector doesn't care about price. That's what this is, a collector's item. They're meant to be overpriced.

As a standard purchase, it doesn't make any sense, and it's okay to complain about it.
I meant you respond to your complaining. Damn mobile app.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:44 PM   #1342
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This thought process has been endlessly beaten to death. If all you care about is straight line and dry weather performance, then why are you even looking at the STI? The whole point of buying an STI is for the AWD system and it's ability to handle well in challenging (and good) weather and road conditions, 4 doors and seats 5 . Also, it's super easy to make 450+whp reliably (if you know what you are doing) on a bone stock EJ STI long block. In addition, the S209 is a finished product and not something you need to make whole sale modifications to after purchase and it has a full factory warranty. However, if all you want to do is modify the crap out of it, then buy the base STI. The S209 isn't for you.

To wrap things up, there's no reason to bitch about the price. If you can't afford 60K, it doesn't manner if it's an S209, Corvette, BMW or some other car in that price range. You can't afford it. So don't bitch about it, instead get a better job.
You sound like you're about 16 yrs old and have no idea how the real world works.
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:31 PM   #1343
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You sound like you're about 16 yrs old and have no idea how the real world works.
Haha! Too bad the truth is very different. You're poor, you can't afford the car, you complain like a bitch, but you still can't afford the car, you end up buying a used Kia and then live the rest of your life bitching about all the things you can't afford. That's the real world and that's your life.
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:21 PM   #1344
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:00 AM   #1345
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Haha! Too bad the truth is very different. You're poor, you can't afford the car, you complain like a bitch, but you still can't afford the car, you end up buying a used Kia and then live the rest of your life bitching about all the things you can't afford. That's the real world and that's your life.

This guy is the worst lmao...
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:56 AM   #1346
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Haha! Too bad the truth is very different. You're poor, you can't afford the car, you complain like a bitch, but you still can't afford the car, you end up buying a used Kia and then live the rest of your life bitching about all the things you can't afford. That's the real world and that's your life.
What a tool bag. Thanks for the laughs.
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Old 10-20-2019, 11:03 AM   #1347
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Haha! Too bad the truth is very different. You're poor, you can't afford the car, you complain like a bitch, but you still can't afford the car, you end up buying a used Kia and then live the rest of your life bitching about all the things you can't afford. That's the real world and that's your life.
At least you didn't tell him that he has a small dick and nobody will ever love him.
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Old 10-20-2019, 11:12 AM   #1348
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At least you didn't tell him that he has a small dick and nobody will ever love him.
Subaru will always love him because he'll buy their car no matter how cheaply they're made and sold at a high price.

Money ain't a thang.
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Old 10-20-2019, 12:33 PM   #1349
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At least you didn't tell him that he has a small dick and nobody will ever love him.
Oh look, another wild 16 yr old e-thug appears.
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Oh look, another wild 16 yr old e-thug appears.
Stop vaping - your sarcasm detector is malfunctioning.
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