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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() First off, the pros and cons of this mod.
Pros: Easy Cheap Will stop 98.6% of heatsoak of your TMIC Will stop you from visiting the burn ward while tinkering with your car Cons: None Myth: It will decrease reliability of your turbo 1. Purchase the Thermo Tec Turbo Wrap Kit #15003 which should cost around $37. 2. You can do this on or off the car as I've done probably 10 turbos over the years on or off the car. For a how-to, this is just easier to show and doing one on the car is only like 9% harder if that. 3. Assemble tools needed https://i.imgur.com/SbNLEPi.jpg I'm using the PROPER tool for the job, a safety wire twister. Harbor Freight sells these for a whopping $9. You can use pliers and twist it manually like the proletariat if you wish. I used the MIL-spec of 7 twists per inch though. 4. Make a paper template. This is two standard sheets of copier paper I stole from work taped together as the template that end up being like ~15" long or so. Notice how it is thicker on one end? This mimics the thickness of the compressor shape as it tapers. https://i.imgur.com/HgfQCMd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x8GnbrT.jpg 5. Using a Sharpie, trace the template onto the thicker underwrap. https://i.imgur.com/ojuFV7R.jpg 6. I cut two of these though the instructions only call for one layer. More is better right? https://i.imgur.com/89q3Mqf.jpg 7. Cut 1/4" relief cuts every inch or so down both long sides of the wrap (and on both copies if doing two layers). These relief cuts will allow the thicker underwrap to lay flatter on the turbo body when it is tightened down. This step is optional and only for the most anal retentive. https://i.imgur.com/hK0WjDv.jpg 8. If you do use two layers, it is best to secure them together so they don't shift around during wrapping. Since they will be on a curved surface, one will be slightly shorter than the other. Curve them into a circle so the slight shifting occurs and staple the ends with one staple on each end. Ghetto....yes....effective as crap....yes. https://i.imgur.com/3OuF7i7.jpg How it appears after stapling. The "loosey-goosey" appearance when not on the turbo is normal as that slack will go away when it is wrapped around the turbo. https://i.imgur.com/OLXDaOt.jpg 9. This is where you mark and cut the silver overwrap. Flip it over and mark and cut the under white side. Lay down your template and mark using the Sharpie a perfect rectangle about 1/4" bigger than the thick tan underwrap. https://i.imgur.com/ufCnbJ0.jpg
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() Look how much extra material you have left when you are done! This is enough to wrap SEVERAL turbos depending on the size and how clumsy you are. The only item that you will need to buy more of is the safety wire which can be found at Harbor Freight. In a pinch, they sell solid strand wire at Michael's in the picture frame department you could use as well.
https://i.imgur.com/MIDN35N.jpg 10. Cut two pieces of the safety wire that comes in the kit about ~8 inches or so longer than your silver overwrap. https://i.imgur.com/7xZZXel.jpg 11. Stitch the wire through the silver overwrap about 1/4" from the top and bottom edges. I did it every inch or so and wasn't terribly perfect as this isn't critical. The pic below shows the white underside to better show the stitching. https://i.imgur.com/5lmQVFx.jpg 12. This part can be tricky with one person, so a helper might be useful at this point. You want to lay your thick tan underwrap in its proper position. Then put the silver overwrap over it. As you mess with the overwrap, the underwrap shifts on you, so you need to take your time as you don't want either the under or overwrap walleyed. https://i.imgur.com/oNrql9b.jpg 13. Then loosely twist the ends to hold it all in place. https://i.imgur.com/unTH2F3.jpg 14. You can now undo one side, then the other and cinch them down better. Once they are moderately tight, do a twist or three and cut off the excess. Then twist them fully making the wrap tight across the turbo body. If the whole wrap package is not tight....keep removing slack and twisting the wire until it is as in order for it to be 100% effective, it needs to be tight and secure. https://i.imgur.com/n1wsXd8.jpg 15. Finished bottom https://i.imgur.com/igDvoMH.jpg Finished top https://i.imgur.com/KATtKco.jpg NOTES 1. Both the under and overwrap are woven fibers. Be careful during handling as fraying can occur and you don't want to unravel the fabric to China....CUT any loose ends. 2. Trim and tuck your twisted wire ends and warn your installer about the safety wire. It may be advisable to wear safety glasses during the overwrap step as the extra wire will be smacking you in the face during the entire process. 3. Your wrap can and will smoke for the first 1-5 driving sessions. This is normal. 4. If you currently are using an OEM or aftermarket heat shield, keep using it. There is no such thing as too much heat protection. 5. The wrap on your turbo will last for thousands and thousands of miles. I've had two turbos go 50,000 miles wrapped with no real fraying, unraveling, or generally looking nasty. Turbo wrap pretty much stays day one pretty and effective after years....unlike coatings. Last edited by Unabomber; 03-15-2018 at 08:54 PM. Reason: fixed pics because nice guy |
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![]() Needs more entertaining cartoons to keep me interested.
Eagerly awaiting moar. |
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![]() if yo dont mind to correct these myths.
i have heard it constrains heat which in turn harms the eternals of the turbo. heats up piping, and increases rust. NOW i have no idea but that is what has kept me from doing this. My shop said that a blanket will keep heat, to the point that once it has heated up so much that you will always be activating and driving on a red hot turbo. regardless of heat soak. im asking you if this is true. other then that, yes it looks ****ing bad ass and something that i have wanted to do for a while |
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![]() i got a ptp turbo blanket off ebay. they are like 80 bucks if you want to spend twice as much. they work so good you can put your hand on it after hard driving around town in summer and its warm but nothing hot to burn your hand.
i feel that this is a much better option than wrapping a downpipe because the turbo is mostly under the tmic and is cast so it holds more heat. the stainless downpipes wont and thats were it can dissipate more heat then! good writeup though. i did this first and it worked great for me. |
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![]() 98.6% Ha, Ha...
![]() 58.4% Turbo blanket 72.2% Water 90.3% Turbo blanket with water 97.3% Turbo blanket with water + vents with fans + header-wrap on everything... ![]() |
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![]() Is that Blouch's new turbo you've been talking about?
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() Ron, you know I love you buddy, but do we need to have a talk about why we feel wrapping exhaust parts is a bad thing?
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() Turbo ain't exhaust buddy. Let's hear your reasoning, and it better be good as my old stock turbo is still wrapped to this day and still on the road with over 100,000 miles on it.
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() Can we sticky this thread please? Like McDonald's, I'm lovin it.
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Vehicle:08 predator evo X RR |
![]() im loving this ****! think that it is a bad idea to wrap your turbo and DP? wont cause harsh heating up? i do agree with the science that the turbo will stay warmer longer with a blanket. and cool faster without one because heat disipates faster. but everyone i see loves turbo blankets. i think im getting one of these ****ers right now!
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![]() I'm no TiC, but my guess would be oil wicking for uppipes (oil saturated exhaust wrap doesn't like to be put out if it lights up). Getting more technical, they might discuss the phase change in the material resulting in heating it up to 1200°F+ temperatures and significantly increasing the amount of time it takes to cool down. The resulting state of the material may be more susceptible to cracking due to engine vibration.
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![]() - Is this worth doing on a stock turbo? (08 STi here)
- How can you tell if you have 'heat soak', and is it harmful other than losing a bit of power? Neat thread, always good info. |
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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Heat soak is when your intercooler gets hot due to engine heat. Ideally, you want your turbo air to go through your intercooler and get cooled to near air temperature. When your intercooler is hot (usually occurs when stationary due to radiant, convection (hottest thing in the car is the turbo and it is directly BELOW the intercooler), and conductive heating) the air from the turbo can only get as cool as the temperature of your intercooler. So on hot days, your car is sluggish below say 30MPH and is a super bear for those that drag race and overheat their intercoolers while staging. Anything you can do to prevent this makes your car peppier in lower speeds until the hood scoop starts doing it's job. |
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👏 Big Ron 👏
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![]() You are an intercooler badass though.
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![]() Well, I've finally made it on to the first page of a soon-to-be stickied thread. I have an odd sense of accomplishment, now.
![]() Great write up, I'll definitely be doing this (if/when I get a turbocharged car ![]() |
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![]() I'm very happy with doing a wrap. Of course that initial break in was rather smelly but once it goes away, the slight performance difference and capability of putting my hand on the hot side when "hot" amused me haha.
Nice write up and I recommend this to anyone who has some spare change and spare time. |
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Vehicle:2005 WRX wagon WRB Cobb Stage 2 OTS |
![]() That's all the wrap that is needed? unless there are more pics to come...
BTW which magical turbo is this? |
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