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Old 07-17-2011, 02:17 PM   #576
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Thats a tight schedule but hopefully things go to plan, I think I may be winning on the bad luck front now Tom! My warranty replaced header...... has a leak!! Arrgh!

One question I had for you, say if you were wanting to keep a recirculating bov, you would have to plub it back into your inlet would you not? I am guessing a setup of your size doesnt require that recir air anyway to remove the chance of lean out between shifts simply because you are putting so much air into the cylinders already?

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Old 07-17-2011, 02:22 PM   #577
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Thats a tight schedule but hopefully things go to plan, I think I may be winning on the bad luck front now Tom! My warranty replaced header...... has a leak!! Arrgh!

One question I had for you, say if you were wanting to keep a recirculating bov, you would have to plub it back into your inlet would you not? I am guessing a setup of your size doesnt require that recir air anyway to remove the chance of lean out between shifts simply because you are putting so much air into the cylinders already?

(just random question)

Alex,

Well that sucks. My setup doesn't require recirculation because I run speed density instead of a MAF sensor. Its the ECU and air flow monitoring setup that does or doesn't require recirculation.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:26 PM   #578
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Well that sucks. My setup doesn't require recirculation because I run speed density instead of a MAF sensor. Its the ECU and air flow monitoring setup that does or doesn't require recirculation.

Ahh I see, so is that something your Hydra allows for? Also when you get as chance get back to me about the turbo sympton issues you were mentioning about the Dom via PM, cheers mate.
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:31 PM   #579
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Ahh I see, so is that something your Hydra allows for? Also when you get as chance get back to me about the turbo sympton issues you were mentioning about the Dom via PM, cheers mate.
The Hydra is Speed Density, the MAF is only there for IAT (Intake Air Temp) readings. Unless a different IAT sensor has been fitted.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:27 PM   #580
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Holy hell! That's impressive.
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Old 07-19-2011, 10:24 PM   #581
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Yeah, that's my turbo kit and a identical motor. Maybe if my car stops being a $75,000 POS I will be able to post a graph like that.
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:13 AM   #582
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When you did your research for you fuel system (which is amazing by the way), did you look at MagnaFuel? Their 625 compares to the a1000 and I was just wondering if you looked into it, and if so, any reasons you didn't go with Magna.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:39 AM   #583
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75k!?
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:21 PM   #584
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built block, custom turbo setup, suspension, tuning, plus cost of original purchase... easily 75k
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:56 PM   #585
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Yeah I can't imagine 3+ trips to Phil being cheap.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:46 PM   #586
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built block, custom turbo setup, suspension, tuning, plus cost of original purchase... easily 75k
Easily? No way. Maybe if you pay full retail for everything. But who does that?
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:52 PM   #587
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75K? I could see that, especially if your talking about total amount spent
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:02 PM   #588
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Ugh whatever, wasn't trying to start an argument.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:14 PM   #589
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MX,

This is what Tom already had on his car,

"In April 2010 my car made an amazing 461whp and 473wtq on the AMS dyno thanks to Phil from Element tuning. The setup included my stock long block, a APS DR725 FMIC, a GT-Spec EWG kit, a Dom3 XTR turbo..." etc.

So it looks like he wasnt starting from a stage 2 Sti. I figure you werent arguing but i can see by the way Tom shows so much attention to detail that this is probably near what he has in it. I have personally seen this car and it is super clean and well executed.

I wish him all the best and hope he gets it all sorted out so i can get a ride in it.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:56 PM   #590
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I figure you werent arguing

Yeah man its all good, we know you weren't arguing. I think Tom is talking about project total, maybe not as the car sits.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:59 PM   #591
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Not to fuel the fire but I can see 75k
I had 35k in mine including my car at stage 2 and paid 18k for my car
I'm over 30k additional on my current build I have done all the labor myself except the engine and trans build and I'm not finished spending money yet
It adds up
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:38 PM   #592
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im at 40k and that doesnt even include the turbo upgrade and trans or suspension that hasnt been started yet.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:04 PM   #593
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No joke, the original price of the car plus the mods on the car right now = ~$75,000.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:03 AM   #594
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No joke, the original price of the car plus the mods on the car right now = ~$75,000.
i totally believe you my wrx was 25,000 with tt&l then i have the same motor as you so there is another 10,000. then fmic fuel pumps and vf39 hydra ems. stuff adds up fast.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:25 AM   #595
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Here's what $75k gets you if you are interested. Note that this ONLY includes the major items. I have actually spent a lot more on the car if you include everything.

STI Power Mod List:
Element Tuning Pro Comp motor w/8500RPM Redline
Custom forged pistons (9.8:1 compression)
Element H-Beam rods
ACL bearings
Cosworth 280 Cams
Element Big Valve Heads
Element competition valve springs
+1mm stainless intake valves
+1mm inconel exhaust valves
Mild head work (5 angle valve job, bowl blend, etc)
Power Enterprises Kevlar Timing Belt
Tomel Billet Aluminum Timing Belt Guide
Element modified STi 12mm oil pump
Killer B Motorsport oil pickup
Killer B Motorsport oil pan

Hydra Nemesis 2.6 ECU
Hydramist water/meth Injection (Using Moore Performance "Crystal Meth" 50/50 mix product)
STi Spec-C Water Tank (for meth)
25 Row Setrab oil cooler w/-10 AN Lines
200F Mocal Sandwich adapter
Apexi AVC-R boost controller
Hallman Pro RX MBC (hybrid setup with AVC-R)
APS 70MM CAI
APS DR725 FMIC (connects to custom Moore Performance coupler)
Moore Performance 4" inlet
Moore Performance Rotated twin scroll turbo kit
Custom catless mid-pipe
Cobb muffler
Ultimate Racing 1260cc top feed injectors
Ultimate Racing top feed fuel rails
Aeromotive FPR
Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump
Aeromotive fuel pump controller
JEGS fuel distribution block
JEGS 100 micron fuel filter
-10 PTFE fuel line between the A1000 and the distribution block
2.2L in trunk surge tank
Walbro 255lph fuel pump (feeding the surge tank)
JDM TGV deletes
GrimmSpeed phenolic Spacers
Element Tuning competition breather can
Mishimoto racing radiator w/Mishimoto shroud & fans
Exedy twin disk racing clutch (dual six pucks)


Suspension/misc stuff (for reference and curiosity sake):
STI Suspension Mods:
245/17 Starspecs on stock 8" BBS rims
Ohlins Flag Coilovers with 8k front springs and 6k rear springs (corner balanced)
Ohlins Front Camber Plates
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STI Rear Strut Tower Brace
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STI Group-N Transmission Mount
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Full Kartboy Titanium Plate Brake Insulator Kit (pads, hubs and bearings)

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Old 07-21-2011, 12:40 AM   #596
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my entire coupe build up is right around $20k but then again I do everything
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:46 AM   #597
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So do I.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:00 AM   #598
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I dont feel so bad about my parts breaking after seeing your parts list Tom, like wowzers
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:05 AM   #599
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I was talking to a friend that is looking at buying a second 05 sti that is a well built car and has been taken care of and he was saying he is worried about the five thousand he is going to half to come up with after he sells his 05 so he can pay off the difference and I was thinking man... I spent 6k on a turbo kit and clutch he is getting off easy
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:11 AM   #600
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its crazy how fast it adds up, plus shipping, oil, gaskets etc etc.
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