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Old 01-19-2017, 09:12 AM   #76
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I think what's overlooked here is that unless the STI has that wing, there is nothing extreme looking about it. It's a small 4 door sedan. WRX's are not really "head turning" cars.

The feedback I get from mine has been as follows-

Young guy at 7-11: "Nice car, does that have a turbo?"
Older client I was working for: "That's a Subaru, great for driving in the snow"

For the most part, the car is pretty anonymous. The only people who will notice it are the people who admire it.
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:41 AM   #77
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Legacy GT spec B ..... =)
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:15 AM   #78
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I still have my 07 WRX wagon and for a while drove a 2014 forester. However after 20 years of drving subarus I just became tired of the wind noise and all of the other quirks of a econobox (the newer models are better though). Traded the forester for a SQ5 and won't look back. The wife drove heavily modded Foresters and got tired of them for the same reasons as me. She need a power upgrade and went with a S63. I am certain both new cars will have their own issues but, the drive is so much more comfortable.
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:29 AM   #79
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Standard answer here...

335 w/suspension work, used S4 or a Golf R.

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- No serious design flaws (e.g. E90 generation M3 V8 rod bearings) that will result in catastrophic repair bills
If you happen to have an early build car, it's not expensive to replace the rod bearings if you're worried about that.

The problems with those are nothing compared to the engine troubles the STI has. So that's not a fair example at all.

A quick oil analysis will let you know if your bearings are wearing excessively. It just doesn't let go with no signs...cough...

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Old 01-19-2017, 11:43 AM   #80
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Can you really put 3 car seats across the back of an STI?

I don't think so.

So...is that a requirement or not?

If it is, I think you'll have to look at much bigger cars, no?
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Old 01-19-2017, 12:41 PM   #81
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3 kids? You need a mini-van

It's not about you anymore, it's about them
I have 3 kids, and everything in my life is about them. My car is a little piece of something I can carve out for myself! The only time I have for myself is my commute through the mountain roads!

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I'm in my mid 30s and becoming more aware of the "image" of the STi. However, I love the car (just got my 2017 in November), but I also have a 2016 Infiniti qx50 for daily driving. With your budget, why not just keep your STi and drive it when appropriate, and then lease an Infiniti for more "adult" tasks? I honestly love the qx50. It has 325hp, awd, and room for 5. However, fitting 3 car seats in the rear would be tough. We have just two in ours. The car is fast, handles well, and is comfortable. We have all the options and it's about $450/mo for a 12k/yr lease, with like $600 down at signing. You won't have a manual, but you'll still have the STi for those cravings, and I promise
You will still enjoy driving the qx50!
You would be surprised what cars you can properly install 3 car seats across in. There is more then just the width of the rear seat, it is also about belt and latch placements. It also helps to have the right seat combination.

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Can you really put 3 car seats across the back of an STI?

I don't think so.

So...is that a requirement or not?

If it is, I think you'll have to look at much bigger cars, no?
You can safely fit 3 carseats across in the 2015+ WRX/STIs. I had to make sure my seats would fit in my 2016 WRX before I could sell the wife on it. With the right seats, you can get a proper install. I even had mine checked by a certified carseat installer. I have 2 Diono RXTs Forward Facing with seat belts installed on the sides (Latch would put them too close to the center for a middle seat), and a Britax Marathon 70 in the Middle Seat Belt Installed. Proper Seat Belt installs are just as safe, if not safer then LATCH, however it is more difficult to get a proper Belt Install, over the LATCH. There is just enough room for a proper install, and with the extra leg room we have in the rear, getting the middle kid in and out isn't a big deal. We have the same seat combo in my wifes Lexus GX470, and it is actually easier to install the seats in the WRX then the much larger lexus (Because of the belt and latch placements).



On a side note, I do agree that with a subtle color, and without the STI Wing, a Stock 2015+ WRX/STI do look pretty subtle to the uneducated. The current model is the most "mature" looking yet.
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Old 01-19-2017, 12:44 PM   #82
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I have my big wang STi as a weekend toy. I just sold my older Nissan Frontier and paid cash for a very clean V8 4Runner to use as my "respectable" daily. You can find a decent daily without having to sell your soul to the corporate overlords.
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Old 01-19-2017, 12:54 PM   #83
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On a side note, I do agree that with a subtle color, and without the STI Wing, a Stock 2015+ WRX/STI do look pretty subtle to the uneducated. The current model is the most "mature" looking yet.
the look is negated by the noise/smell if you put a catless 3" tbe on it heheh
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:07 PM   #84
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Ya but what happens when your 3 kids all start playing sports and have friends to tote around...wish ford would bring back the excursion
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:20 PM   #85
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You can safely fit 3 carseats across in the 2015+ WRX/STIs. I had to make sure my seats would fit in my 2016 WRX before I could sell the wife on it. With the right seats, you can get a proper install. I even had mine checked by a certified carseat installer. I have 2 Diono RXTs Forward Facing with seat belts installed on the sides (Latch would put them too close to the center for a middle seat), and a Britax Marathon 70 in the Middle Seat Belt Installed.
Awesome info, thanks. I bought an RXT as well, knowing it was quite narrow. Perfect username for a seat discussion as well.
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:27 PM   #86
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uhhhh, no nobody can go bankrupt from a serious illness. Even before this ridiculous new law that took a 3 trillion dollar a year industry and placed it on an exponentially increasing cost curve, it still couldn't happen. Medical debt is totally unsecured, they can't take your house, your car, or any assets. They can send you letters asking to be paid, which is why nobody pays other than people who work. Even if it were true the medical system is the cause of that, not our country. Let me guess, the federal gov't should just borrow to 'make it free' for everyone?

And exactly which debt ridden countries are you talking about??? France, Italy or Greece?
Pretty sure 'one of our political parties' will continue to exist if the news broke of the European ultra liberal handouts, because the news did break. Democrats never stop yapping about what "europe" gives away and why that means we should too, it's no secret.
There's some people that understand you can't spend 30-40% more than you take in EVERY single year for eternity. (like we have for the last 8 years)
At least now we only borrow 950 billion dollars annually though right, in addition to an 800 billion dollar trade deficit.
Hold it right there buddy, don't spew your political view bull****. Sign a contract for a debt, don't pay it and you will land in court with a judgment against you, they'll dig in your bank account and garnish your wages. Good luck with your ignorant new president he will MAGA
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:31 PM   #87
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Why has no one said CTS-V yet.
Because it's nothing at all like an STI?
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Old 01-19-2017, 01:42 PM   #88
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BMW 335i or its larger bro the 535i rwd or awd and twin turbo v6... They look like an ordinary BMW not flashy or anything and when tuned beat m3s easily.
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Old 01-19-2017, 02:00 PM   #89
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Ya but what happens when your 3 kids all start playing sports and have friends to tote around...wish ford would bring back the excursion
Then it is Minivan time, but that is what you have your wife drive, or you just get an older one for the few times you will need the extra capacity.
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Old 01-19-2017, 02:13 PM   #90
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Thank you for all the responses. I figured I'd get a bunch of, "screw what other people think" type comments, and certainly appreciate that viewpoint. That said, as I've grown older I've also come to appreciate the, "happy wife, happy life" and "your network is your net worth" viewpoints as well. For whoever said that American's seem especially preoccupied with impressing others, I'd suggest that may be in part due to our lack of a real social safety net. In the main, you've always got to be selling yourself here if you want to eat consistently and sleep indoors. That includes in social settings for a lot of careers.

Let me just say that, while vanity certainly plays a part me seeking a more grown-up alternative to my current ride, I'm not interested in impressing people with my car. Mostly looking for something more anonymous so I can stop having to explain my choice of "Fast & Furious" vehicle to others all the time. Also, I'd be lying if the crummy ride quality (and associated complaining from passengers) and low rent interior weren't getting a bit old.
Where do you live? I mean, while I certainly understand your point, it seems to be pretty exaggerated. I get not having visible tattoes, sadly that can directly affect your career and general success. But, are you going to not get a job, miss out on a promotion or lose business because of your car? Will your kids have to go to a worse school? Or is it really just you imagining that some strangers might be thinking your still trying to be boy racer?

And I don't really understand all these the STi is a kids car statements. I mean if you were driving a clapped out blobeye with lime green wheels, then sure I get it. But a new STi is a $40k car, you pretty much have to be an adult to afford one! If you wanna be a little more low key just get rid of the wing and run stock exhaust. After that it's no different than having a bright red corvette, which is known for being a midlife crisis, gold chain stuck in his chest hair old man car.
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Old 01-19-2017, 02:28 PM   #91
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I'll kind of echo the whole 'who cares what other people think?' sentiment.

I'm in my early 30's and coworkers say I'm like a big kid (still playing computer games, driving an STI, etc). It'strue, but you know what? Kids are generally happy, and so am I.

So in conclusion: just buy a skyline for a weekend car like a normal person.

I mean that's what I did.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:00 PM   #92
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BMW 335i or its larger bro the 535i rwd or awd and twin turbo v6... They look like an ordinary BMW not flashy or anything and when tuned beat m3s easily.
They're inline 6s, and haven't been twin turbo since 2010 (maybe '11 for the 5 series). The earlier twins are quite potent though, yes. The newer single-scrolls, not as much. Along the same lines, the 340 and 540, while still single turbo, are more potent than the single turbo '35 cars.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:23 PM   #93
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I like the CTS-V sedan/ wagon idea. If no, then S4 or 3 series. In that order. CTS is on another level performance wise though. The Golf R, while I love it, I think you'll find is pretty small.

Also, why are we talking about healthcare and random crap? OP asked for car options. Not what we think of his decisions. He merely gave a back story so that we could see where he's coming from to better suggest other options. It's not like he's a 19 year old living with his parents asking if it's a good idea to buy a brand new STI.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:32 PM   #94
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Jm2c, I changed from a 13 hatch to a Golf R and I love it, definitely a whole different car, I also loved the WRX Hatch and its "roughness" but I felt it wasn't for me, maybe the horror stories from here didn't help but I also wanted a more toned down car.

I looked at a few BMW's, Charger (RWD not good in NE for daily IMO) in the end got a good price for the R and bought it, also the freedom of modding without a tune every time I change a screw its a big plus. My kids are older, no car seats but they fit comfortable inside.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:56 PM   #95
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Can you really put 3 car seats across the back of an STI?

I don't think so.

So...is that a requirement or not?

If it is, I think you'll have to look at much bigger cars, no?
Sure can. We use one Combi Coccorro (front facing) for our oldest and two Chico Keyfit 30s (rear facing) for our twin infants. No bases. It's a tight fit, but totally doable. With the big trunk and our roof box mounted there pretty much isn't any trip the STI can't handle.

Obviously the STI isn't our primary kid vehicle. We also have a three row Mazda CX-9 (basically a lifted minivan) as the family hauler and a BMW X1 that my wife uses as her DD. Both are better kid vehicles, but I nonetheless need to keep my car capable of the occassional three kid haul for emergencies.

Thanks again for all the ideas everyone. Going to definitely drive the Golf R. Would love to try a Chevy SS as well, but it looks like there are currently zero new or used manual SS's for sale as of this morning. The CTS-V wagon with a 6 speed would be the holy grail, but it looks like those are still going for 60K+. I saw a few in the high 50s, but emailing the listings found them to all be sold. Will set up an alert.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:59 PM   #96
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Sure can. We use one Combi Coccorro (front facing) for our oldest and two Chico Keyfit 30s (rear facing) for our twin infants. No bases. It's a tight fit, but totally doable. With the big trunk and our roof box mounted there pretty much isn't any trip the STI can't handle.

Obviously the STI isn't our primary kid vehicle. We also have a three row Mazda CX-9 (basically a lifted minivan) as the family hauler and a BMW X1 that my wife uses as her DD. Both are better kid vehicles, but I nonetheless need to keep my car capable of the occassional three kid haul for emergencies.

Thanks again for all the ideas everyone. Going to definitely drive the Golf R. Would love to try a Chevy SS as well, but it looks like there are currently zero new or used manual SS's for sale as of this morning. The CTS-V wagon with a 6 speed would be the holy grail, but it looks like those are still going for 60K+. I saw a few in the high 50s, but emailing the listings found them to all be sold. Will set up an alert.

PM user KC. He just listed his SS for sale. MT and it's the reddish orange IIRC.
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Hold it right there buddy, don't spew your political view bull****. Sign a contract for a debt, don't pay it and you will land in court with a judgment against you, they'll dig in your bank account and garnish your wages. Good luck with your ignorant new president he will MAGA
Actually I voted for Clinton smart guy, but now Trump is my president and yours too.

Sorry, medical bills don't work that way, you just assumed they did because that would make sense.
What political views exactly would you say were spewed?
I corrected a blatantly false statement about the prospect of going bankrupt from an illness because that is impossible, and pointed out that the welfare states across the Atlantic are completely debt ridden, another fact.
Don't spew your bitterness about those facts.
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:10 PM   #98
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I'm 68 years old and drive a 06 STI with up grades, don't grow up. Have fun enjoying a fun fast car keep the STI
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:28 PM   #99
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I'll be horn-shwaggled. I am going through this VERY thing! Completely built bug-eye wagon, but I just turned 47 and I can't stand to get in the thing anymore because it's far too obnoxious and tedious. I needed a project though, but something a bit more luxurious and "appropriate". Don't let anyone here discount the fact that getting into a "nice" car, and something people don't look at you as a clown is a GREAT feeling.
It was a short list for me, because I also just bought a pretty new GLK, and so I'm broke. HAD to have awd because I live near Tahoe now. It was either a V8 S4, C300 4-matic, or a 4motion VR6 CC or Passat. BMW and Subaru Leggy gt or 3.6 were on the absolute fringe (I know BMWs break a lot, and the Legacys are still crappy inside and prone to typical Subie maladies).
Soooo, I just bought a salvage '08 335xi, with major body damage, and a couple of lit airbags, but no suspension or structural damage. Couldnt pass it up, because of price, and broken bits were probaly things I would have replaced anyway.
I'll miss the JDM 5mt dccd, the LSDs, and the MPS block/Phatbotti tuned 500bhp, but I'll tell you what I WON'T miss. I won't miss the tin can sound of shutting the door, chasing down every rattle while driving the car, OR being able to sit at a stop light without every Honda or Neon in the place revving blue smoke in my face.
Finally, as to the automatic, go sit on the 5 or the 101 near L.A. on a Friday afternoon, about 2p, and let me know how that stick shift is working for you. Autos are too good these days to fault, except for Subaru's auto!
Wish you the best. Now, I'm off...to prep body panels...in the snow.

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Old 01-19-2017, 05:32 PM   #100
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