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03-11-2008, 04:42 PM | #1 |
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04 USDM WRX or 99 JDM STi?
Hey guys,
I have quite the dilemma right now. I can get my hands on a complete 1999 JDM STi Type R mechanical swap for [$XXXX] which includes 100% of everything that is not interior/exterior. For the same amount of money, I can get a wrecked 04 WRX wagon. Here are the pros and Cons I have thought about so far: 1999 STi Type R Pros
If anyone has anything else to add to the list, let me know. What would you guys do though? There are no emissions here and I don't have to worry about that. I also have an ej257 block sitting in the corner of my garage in case one of the two motors were to blow on me. Goals: Daily driven, turbo. May upgrade the turbo to a VF22 or VF39 sometime down the line, but not right now. WWNASIOCD?
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03-11-2008, 06:55 PM | #2 |
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go usdm. parts will be easier to find and wont be a hassle when something breaks.
usdm engines can make big hp numbers but it just takes more $$ and theres TONS of support. |
03-11-2008, 07:00 PM | #3 | |
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Parts aren't really much easier to find, it's all plug and play from different models. I spin a bearing? Throw in my ej257. I blow a turbo? Throw in a VF39 (or my VF22 if I decide to keep it). I just don't want to have to do the work, although I can if I need to. |
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03-11-2008, 07:05 PM | #4 |
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i say the udsm ...
for the EM you could blow the 207 block and swap in the 257 but how ya gonna tune it? another $1100 for a powerfc+datalogit? or 2100 for an autronic? .. and how will those cold start? |
03-11-2008, 07:34 PM | #5 |
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03-12-2008, 03:32 AM | #6 |
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usdm just because of the readily available parts
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03-12-2008, 05:25 AM | #7 |
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usdm may require more work wiring, but you can just start replacing entire harnesses in your car. ultimately if you can get it installed with a working obd2 system, i think that would make it all worth while. my V5 STi (in a 98 RS chassis) doesn't have any obd port, and thats not as nice as my 04 STi that does.
Other than that, i love the way the ej207 pulls in the high end, much stronger above 6k than my stg 2 ej257. However the 5spd is really still not well matched to the 207, it would feel way nicer on the 6spd box. Could take better advantage of that 8k+ redline. |
03-12-2008, 10:32 AM | #8 | |
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Common misconception.
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03-12-2008, 11:46 AM | #9 |
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silentt,
There is a new wave of swaps going on right now. It involves pulling in the complete USDM wiring harness along with the dash, and fuel tank. The only splicing that is involved is for making rhe headlights, foglights, turn signals, etc. work. Do some research. It's quick and clean if you are a more mechanical than electrical sort of guy. I am with Jaxx for the same reasons... |
03-12-2008, 11:49 AM | #10 |
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I thought it was more work to fit the 04 WRX dash than to do the wiring though? Every member's journal I see on RS25 looked like the retrofit was a huge PITA. I'll check it out though, definitely something I'd be interested in.
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03-14-2008, 11:24 AM | #11 |
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yeah, that's what i was referring to. If you were afraid of wiring at all, you can just start replacing more and more of the harness rather than merge. Several people have dropped in USDM STi drivelines in GC's by simply stripping the interior and swapping out the entire body/engine harnesses to make sure everything works fine.
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03-14-2008, 11:50 AM | #12 | |
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03-14-2008, 12:09 PM | #13 |
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Soooo, I ended up choosing a 02 Bugeye that was a theft recovery. Rear bumper/trunk is toast, paint is scratched to **** and the sale is in the works for $1700. I couldn't say no to that price, since I'll come out making at least $1500 off this swap. The 02 has ~10k less miles than the 04 and was stock other than a catback and K&N panel filter. It was also half the price of the JDM STi and 04 WRX.
I have a friend that documented the entire swap process from 99 RS to 02 WRX which went from swapping the rear crossmember all the way to the wiring. Everything included pictures and the wiring was documented wire by wire. Thanks guys |
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