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Old 03-01-2007, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Best STU Tire for 2007? Need some help choosing!

Ok, I know this has been discussed to some degree, but I can't really make heads or tails of my search results.

I am looking for an STU tire for 2007. I'd like a 245/40/17. These will be daily driven, so I'd prefer not to have to shave. I run in and around CT, mostly on asphalt.

I would appreciate ANY opinions regarding the following, and any I might have missed.

My decision comes down to the following:

Falken 615 - Not really crazy about 245/35/17 size. Sounds like it has one of the better sidewalls. Good price.

Yoko Neova - Right size, performance, etc. Wrong price. I'd rather not spend $1k plus. Aside from price, it sounds like this is the tire to have

Hankook Z212 Good bang for the buck, but sloppy sidewall. Rather not have to shave.

RE070 right price, but how much performance am I giving up with the 225 width?

Advan 046 - The stock evo tire. Better performing than the Re070? About the same price, can be purchased used for cheap

RE01R - At the moment, this is where I am leaning. Right size (245/40/17) decent price. Seems like performance very close to Neova at $250 a set less cost.

Is there anything else I am missing? Anything that will be coming out during thenext month or so?

Thanks very much for your help!
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:55 PM   #2
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Well, the best tire is the Neova. However, if money is a concern, I would probably go for the RE01R. I don't think the Falken 615 comes in a 245/35/17. AFAIK, it is 245/45/17 only. Plenty of people use the Falken - personally I did not like them for STU, but they are cheap and good.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:03 PM   #3
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Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:11 PM   #4
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For doing regional stuff when tire money is a concern I'd do RE070. If you are doing national stuff, Neovas are it. (contingency money can help offset their increased cost assuming you win)

Looking forward to meeting you at Atwater Max!
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:19 PM   #5
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Well, it depends on your region RE070's are a great tire though - you're not giving up much to a Neova.

See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:23 PM   #6
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This is great info guys, I do appreciate it.

Surprising amount of respect for the factory stockers, despite the width disadvantage.

What do you guys think about the RE01R's compared to the RE070's?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:00 PM   #7
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i like my Hankook vents RS-2
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:17 PM   #8
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i like my Hankook vents RS-2
Again, a fine choice locally although I believe the sidewall is a bit soft for a STI.

Hancook is offering contingency this year, so you might get a few more people trying them in STU.

I would try the RE01R, but they don't pay Contingency. I won enough money last year for 3 sets of Yoks.
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:34 PM   #9
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I am almost 100% set on getting hankook RS2's this season. They are a good tire from what I have read they have great grip, just a bit of a soft sidewall... but thats not a "huge" problem... I ran neova's this season and they were good but I dont wanna pay big $$$ again....
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Well, it depends on your region RE070's are a great tire though - you're not giving up much to a Neova.

See you in Atwater Funky. You should come down here for the El Toro Pro.
I had thought about doing El Toro, but couldn't work the trip into my schedule with the long drive and all. I'm registered for Atwater already, #14STU, should be good fun.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:44 PM   #11
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Ive driven on the RT615's, RS2's, and RE070's. I like the 615 and re070s the best out of those. The hankook has too soft a side wall for my preference. Since you will be DDing the car, I recomend the RE01R. I have heard great things about this tire, and it is up there in my choice for next tire
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:39 AM   #12
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So anyone tried to alleviate the soft sidewall of the RS2 by running them with 50lbs. or so of air before giving up on them?
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You're much better off just tuning the car for the tire than trying to tune the tire to the car. Setup for the RS-2s is not the same as the setup for the old 215s is not the same as setup for the 615s is not the same as setup for the Neovas.... You get the idea. Each tire preforms best when it is worked a slightly different way and few people have spent the effort to tune a car to the RS-2s, everyone just repeats the "they have soft sidewalls" line. Simple example, the Neovas like a lot less static camber up front than the 215s did.

You can win national events on any of the tires listed IMO, you just can't cookie cutter someone else's setup from a different tire. When everyone used the 215 you could pretty well copy another persons setup but with the different tires that is just not the case anymore.

I find it curious that the OP feels the Hankooks would need shaved but you think the REs and Neovas wouldn't. I've seen all three start to chunk even when shaved.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:58 AM   #14
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Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.
lol, Max got beat by the RE-01R's at the 06' Solo2 Nat's and the AD07's are not close to the RA-01's.

Sorry Max, just giving your fan club a hard time.

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What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?

There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?

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Sorry Max, just giving your fan club a hard time.
Hey there! I resemble that remark!
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What about the Continental ContiSportContact or the newest "3" version. Baring the results at Nat's, how did Steve Rankins like them overall?

There's also the Dunlop Direzza DZ101's. Anyone run these?

Dave
Steve couldn't legally use the ContiSport Contact 3's as they weren't available stateside at the time Nationals took place IIRC... He had to run Contact 2's and finished ~17th. Steve has mentioned that the Contact 3's are much grippier than the Contact 2's though.
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:42 PM   #17
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lol, Max got beat by the RE-01R's at the 06' Solo2 Nat's and the AD07's are not close to the RA-01's.
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Bugger off Dave

He does have a point though - there is not much difference between the Neova and the RE-01R... it comes down to the driver in the end.

I creamed Dave in the Pro, and he just slightly beat me in Champ
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For the Hankook RS2, you need alot of negative camber, like -3 degrees
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Which tire do you think would be best for a car running stock-ish camber (-1.0 degrees)? I'm thinking something ultra-stiff, like the RE070?
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The Falken RT615 would be great, plus its cheap! They have a very stiff sidewall and doesnt need alot of camber..
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The RE070 (and other Bridgestone tires for that matter) has something that the Falken, Hankook, and basically nobody else has in a sidewall: A concave design. Upon heavy cornering with little camber, it is much more difficult to fold under versus a regular sidewall design since the sidewall basically compresses rather than rolls. For camber challenged vehicles, this is my unequivocal recommendation, seconded only by the RE01R.

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^Great info. I was not aware that the sidewalls were concave; I knew they were stiff, but not concave.

DrBiggly, does your recommendation also stand for stock-cambered vehicles when considering the availability of other tires in wider sizes (ie RE070 rollover resistance vs. wider tires)?
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Thank you all for all of the GREAT info.

I found a set of RE070's with more than half tread for $200 locally, so I wen t that direction based on all the great responses.

If I end up competing beyond the local level, I'll look to spend the extra money on RE01R's or Neovas...
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Good choice. FWIW, the tread width of the 225 RE070 is actually 1/10" wider than the Evo's 235 Advan 046 tire.
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Listen to Max (BlkWRXWag). He's the '06 National Pro Solo Champion in STU. FWIW, I've heard that Neovas are as fast if not slightly faster than Toyo RA-1's (r-comps) in a similar size.
OMG you read his profile too!

Ever been on RA-1's? There's still a hefty gap.... Who in the world said that???
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