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02-12-2007, 03:48 PM | #26 | ||
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02-12-2007, 06:13 PM | #27 | |
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The gearing is excellent in an LT1 Camaro, and on most courses, an LS1 Camaro too. Having driven plenty of Camaros and plenty of Subarus, I'm trying to figure out what your perspective with this comment is. Karen |
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02-12-2007, 06:37 PM | #28 |
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Since I can't afford to dump the 06 engine in my 02 daily driver, this is what I have in mind for a divisionally competitive 02 sedan:
TXS TMIC TXS Intake TXS Catless TBE TXS UpPipe TXS RPV TXS UTEC (custom tune by TXS) - ::keeps fingers crossed:: 100 Octane AGX's ProKit's (spring/shocks will be replaced w/ CUSCO Z2 coils before Sept) CUSCO sways CUSCO rear strut brace 17" Rota attacks (17x7.5?, 14.9lbs ea) 225/45/17 Kumho v710s (yes, these are coming to the US on April 2nd due to "Kumho sponsoring the MX5 cup and that's their spec tire" - Vilven Tire) I want to go wider on the wheels/tires obviously but since I might sell this thing in a couple of years I don't want to do the fender flares. The wheels/tires are legally able to stick out from the bodywork so I can't see how this would be necessary. I'm not opposed but that's just one more thing I would have to do myself. I'm on a strict budget and do 90***37; of the work myself with the help of a good friend so that is limiting what I can do as well. Whattayathink? Last edited by digitalseance; 02-12-2007 at 06:45 PM. |
02-12-2007, 07:36 PM | #29 | |
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Speaking of which, what kind of power should the 2.5l be able to make with unlimited boost, 112+ octane and water injection? Full bore engine, .047 overbore, SP mods to the head, catless, etc. How durable IS the trans that comes on the 2.5l cars? What about for the LS1 camaro? |
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02-12-2007, 08:32 PM | #30 |
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If you guys notice, there was a DSM in 3rd this year at nats. And we all know even a 2.0 liter GD is going to be a better platform.
I really think a well prepped 2.0 liter WRX could take the win. Throw the 285/30/18's on it. ZZYZX suspension, the basic power mods and some weight reduction and you'd be right there. I don't even think you'd have to go crazy on the build. And who needs fender flares, just bust out the sawzall. As far as the competition. The ESP class is pretty well concrete. I think the pony guys will police themselves just fine. As far as who to look out for. Well, check out the results! |
02-12-2007, 08:42 PM | #31 | ||
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02-12-2007, 11:14 PM | #32 |
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Digi ... you've got to at least put 245/40/17 R's on (Hoosier A6's) ... they'll fit without fender flares ... if you have stiff springs. Here on a narrow wagon.
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02-13-2007, 10:05 AM | #33 | |
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02-13-2007, 10:07 AM | #34 |
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Karen, what is top speed in 2nd gear for the LT1/LS1 cars? Anyone have the 1st and 2nd gear ratios and final drive ratios for the LT1/LS1 cars and the WRX's?
Agreed, the T56 is a stought gearbox. |
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Read his build. He doesn't have stiff springs or shocks. I'd suggest getting a more serious suspension first/next. As KC found out with his car in STX trim, a good suspension is worth quite a bit of time.
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02-13-2007, 10:18 AM | #36 | |
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I'm getting the willies just thinking about setting up one for ESP. I would have to say that a WRX (and those saying only with a 2.0L could be correct) could take ESP in both ProSolos (as long as you have the '06 gearbox) and nationals. Dammit, someone gimme some money. Like I said earlier, $20K would suffice and I'll guarantee coverage and a podium finish at nationals. Maybe I might wok on this for my '08 plan. I know I've talked to solo-x at length about it, and it's quite doable. --kC |
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02-13-2007, 11:26 AM | #37 | |
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You saw my post about corner weighing my '06 WRX TR in the DS thread? Came in at 3,056lbs with a 1/3 tank of gas on my heavy stock wheels & RE070 tires. With my racing wheels and victoracers my car will be in the 3,020lb range and I could see a fully prepped DS '06+ WRX TR dipping below the 3,000lb mark. In SP* trim, a TR should get down to the low 2,800lb range - maybe even crack into the high 2,700lb range. |
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02-13-2007, 11:28 AM | #38 | |
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I'll keep pushin' on him for doing this before '08... but he's happy with his non-nationally-competitive SM car. |
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02-13-2007, 12:03 PM | #39 | |
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But since I would have to start from scratch, the '02/'03 would be the cheapest to start with. Again, dropping a 2.5L powertrain into an '02/'03 would be the ultimate way to do it, lighter chassis to start with. Yes, the 2.5L and tranny weighs more than the outgoing unit it would replace, but the weight savings would still be there. Like, if anyone were to build the ultimate WRX for ESP. --kC (2nd request... send me money) |
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02-13-2007, 12:48 PM | #40 | |
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02-13-2007, 12:55 PM | #41 | |
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The 2.5L cars are MUCH better about trannys. I've heard 3rd gear is now the one to break, which obviously shouldn't be a problem on an auto-x course. I easily have 200 launches on my car, many with R-comps, and the tranny is just fine Granted it's not the 509509 that you have on your green car though! If $20k is going to anyone, it's to someone who already has a 2.5L. ME. So, I'm putting in my bid. I feel I only need $15k to go trophy in ESP. I'll even give you your money back if I don't!!! haha. |
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02-13-2007, 01:03 PM | #42 | |
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02-13-2007, 01:43 PM | #44 | ||
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I will throw some other tidbits for a 06/07 out... we are getting some problems with 3rdgear breaking now here at the dealership...we have had about 4 in the last couple of monthes....and...it seems the stock clutch is weaker also than that of a 2.0 car...we have replaced 4 clutches under 10000 miles so far... You look at the cars in ESP....most of them are frekkin Dinosours..so ANY new blood of technology in the class is already going to be a HUGE advantage... Oh yeah..I forgot one important car thats missing...a Cadillac CTSV...seems one actually entered the San Diego tour last year....and it was basically stock with some hoosiers...Since it has the various computers...traction dontrol...and all that...its probably the most advance car in the class...followed by the Subaru's, the GTO, the new Mustangs..and the Mazda 6... Bill |
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Well, after the SM thread....
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02-13-2007, 05:04 PM | #48 |
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We have a guy locally piloting what we affectionately call the Black Wagon of Doom and he won the class this year. We need to do some tuning as he just got a UTEC and he needs some new stickies next year. He's running 255's on his wagon. So I say go for it!
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02-13-2007, 05:12 PM | #49 |
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X ... didn't sound like he had any suspension yet ... "ProKit" to be followed with expensive to rebuild Cusco's ... so the advice was to get stiff springs together with much wider the 225 tires. Pretty much need both it you are going to do one.
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02-13-2007, 05:25 PM | #50 | |
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I think KC pointed out the 2006+MY tranny because the 3.7 F.D. allows for someone to stay in 2nd gear all the time. |
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