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Old 02-09-2008, 12:46 AM   #51
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For the record, this was not brought up by the SCCA. This is a discussion on SCCAForums(not affiliated with SCCA) by members who are merely thinking out loud. Too much wieght is put into these "what if?" disussions on web forums. If you are worried about it, write a quick letter to the SCCA and explain why you don"t think such an idea is appropriate.

It's okay, take a deep breath, the sky is not falling.

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Thanks James. The BMW drivers got waxed by Fenter and now they want changes to level the playing field. They are pretty vocal, just go look at the thread on SCCAforums. Well written letters to [email protected] are what get considered by the advisory committees. Comments on the forums are generally considered noise. Any changes would first go out for member comment and then would possibly be considered for 2009. The rules are already in place for 2008.
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:10 AM   #52
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I think the letter writing thing is BS....I've written my share. I believe the rulesmakers are gonna do whatever the hell they want.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:17 AM   #53
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Thanks James. The BMW drivers got waxed by Fenter and now they want changes to level the playing field.
Which would be all fine and dandy if he didn't also kick the asses of all the other WRX drivers too!
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:31 AM   #54
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I think the letter writing thing is BS....I've written my share. I believe the rulesmakers are gonna do whatever the hell they want.
Back in the day, I actually used to get log numbers

I sent the chairperson of the SEB an email about signing up to write the Auto-Doug software. I hope they let me.

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Old 02-09-2008, 10:44 AM   #55
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To be legal a tire has to be available in 4 diameters and 6 sizes. Toyo R1R is only available in 3 diameters. Unless they release something in a 16" diameter before the end of April, the tire isn't legal.
13.3.F which you are referencing doesn't apply to ST tires. "Tires must meet the eligibility requirements of the Stock category (excluding 13.3.F), with the following additional restrictions" The Toyo will be perfectly legal as long as they actually are sold by April 30th.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:21 AM   #56
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I think some 1R1's are already being sold

http://www.aimtire.com/typ_category.asp?ObjectID=6650
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Old 02-09-2008, 02:21 PM   #57
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For the record, this was not brought up by the SCCA. This is a discussion on SCCAForums(not affiliated with SCCA) by members who are merely thinking out loud. Too much wieght is put into these "what if?" disussions on web forums. If you are worried about it, write a quick letter to the SCCA and explain why you don"t think such an idea is appropriate.

It's okay, take a deep breath, the sky is not falling.
I thought the same thing about the emissions crap on SCCAForums last June. Up until it became instantly official in July.
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:24 PM   #58
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Tire question:

how good are the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1's compared to the almighty Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R?

I'm currently running falken azenis rt615s, and planned on getting bridgestones, but I can get a much better deal on a set of dunlops. however, i don't see hardly anyone running the dunlops, just the bridgestones and yokohamas.

anyone have any testing of the dunlops? any articles comparing all of the above tires?
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:54 PM   #59
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tirerack did a test w/ all three- Dunlop fared well

I think after the first tour event there may be more info on the Dunlop
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:17 PM   #60
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tirerack did a test w/ all three- Dunlop fared well

I think after the first tour event there may be more info on the Dunlop
good to know.

maybe i'll get 'em just to be different
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:56 PM   #61
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Ok, to bring this thread back, I've got a tire pressure question. I've got KYB AGX/Prodrive springs, -1.3 camber f/r, and 225/45-17 Falken Fk-452 tires. For a starting point, I'm going to run 42 psi front, 39 psi rear.

Let's say I do my first run and I want the car to rotate better, it's understeering badly, where do I begin to adjust? (aside from how I'm driving) With 39 psi in the rears, should I reduce that pressure in order to get the back end to "roll" more. Or am I thinking in the wrong direction here?
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:10 PM   #62
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I have heard of people both overinflating and underinflating their rears to change balance. I don't know that one of them is more right than the other.

That said, more camber in the front would definitely help
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:46 PM   #63
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I'd go with more air(46lb.+), it's kinder to the sidewalls.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:15 AM   #64
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I'd go with more air(46lb.+), it's kinder to the sidewalls.
Really? Well I'll take an airtank and play with the pressures. I've got 3 autocrosses in the next 5 days, so I'll see what works best.
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:41 AM   #65
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+1 for going up in pressure to help with rotation.

There's alot of things you could do but this is the cheapest and easiest. That's alot of rear camber working against you. It recovers more easily but it harder to intiate rotation.

I don't know anything about your tires but you could also try coming down in the front by a pound each run until they roll to far.

I think most, at least I, run lower in the front than the rear.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:55 AM   #66
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Yeah, I like more pressure in back than up front. It seems like when you do get the breakaway at the rear, it's more catchable that way (to me, at least).
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:45 AM   #67
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Wow, this thread hasn't been touched all season

How many runs are people getting out of their Neovas? I had mine shaved to 4/32" and with 101 runs on them (did a test and tune today, approx 24 runs) they still have plenty of tread and still feel pretty damn fast. The inner shoulders on the fronts took a beating today though because I didn't flip them halfway through (dumb, but I'm lazy).

I really love these tires!
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:22 AM   #68
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mine are in the 200 run range w/ 10,000 miles of daily driving (started full tread)- I screwed mine up early trying to run some toe out w/ -3.0 of camber up front (I got away w/ this at -2.3-ish)- might be doable on a "weekend" only car, but not on a daily driver.

other than the uneven wear the toe out caused, these are wearing well and more importantly still sticking well

too bad Yoko pulled their contingency this year
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:06 PM   #69
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I really liked Yoks when you got tires with a recent build date.
My last couple sets (bought in late 07 and early 08) had 2005 build dates, the difference is definitely noticeable.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:26 PM   #70
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They're coming out w/ a new street tire to replace the Neova I hear- anyone else hear anything on it
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:33 PM   #71
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Yeah - I have also heard there will be a "new Neova" and that this time around we stand a decent chance of getting the smaller than 17" sizes. For now it's just a rumor, tho
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:28 PM   #72
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It already sounds expensive.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:48 PM   #73
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well the Kumho XS is officially available now (tirerack) and I heard a rumor (unsubstantiated) that at recent San Diego event they did VERY good. Anyone else hear anything?
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:47 PM   #74
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It's more than a rumor.

Here's Stephen Yeoh's blog of that event. Stephen finished 3rd in STS at Nationals this year. The Kumho was used by Ken Motonishi (2 time STS national champ) on his own STS Civic. This doesn't say anything about the tires, only that Ken on the Kumhos was faster than Stephen on the Bridgestones (but the blog mentions some compromises made to his car).

http://yeohbaby.blogspot.com/2008/08...ar-me-now.html

Ken also ran the Kumhos on his Civic at a Los Angeles area night event the week before. On a 32-33 second course, he was only 0.1 seconds off from my STX time.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:27 PM   #75
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What size was he on?
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