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![]() I'm waiting to see actual timed track comparisons. Will the model 3 beat an M3 around a track like Elon claimed?
My guess is it won't or we'd be seeing more track tests. Not that it really matters in the end, but I want to see if Elon was making another empty promise. |
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![]() I saw Elirentz comment from 2018 about Ring time etc...Thought of this article/info from cars.com this week.
The Week in Tesla News: Model S Rocks the ’Ring, Model 3 Aces Crash Tests, Dog Mode Defended https://www.cars.com/articles/the-we...fended-410252/ |
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![]() Boy talk about coming long way.. 322 miles AWD, 4.4 seconds. With electric anyone can get off the line match claimed zero to sixty. Starting to see more Tesla cars in my area (North East PA, but out in the country), I don’t how the service warranty crap goes, guess the come out or it flat-bedded to nearest facility. Anyway, at 322 I’m in.. I’m good at 30 really, just that once twice a month 200 mile round trips.
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Queens, New York
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![]() I test drove a Model 3 performance edition with the 20" wheels. It was scary fast, never been in a car that just rockets off the line without any hesitation and just keeps going and no gear shifts. Every sports car even $300k+ cars have to change gears. My body felt like it just ejected out of a launchpad on the highway. Most Teslas I've seen on the road drive like Priuses. But never seen anybody gone fast with it.
I overcooked the turn a little and the tail comes out and then the AWD just sort itself out like the Evo and the car just sort itself out. Amazing. It definitely feels like the car has a lot of traction control, assists, and collision safety system. I got a little too close to the sidewalk and the steering wheel sort of locked itself and the car pull back onto the road. The Tesla worker told me that if you switch to Track mode it will be less intrusive with the assists. After my 15min drive, I honestly don't think there's one car quicker on the road for under $60k. It was just electrifying fast. |
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Vehicle:07 FPgreen [email protected] WRX VF39+E85 12.0, 121mph |
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Location: Queens, New York
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![]() I'm talking to the Tesla salesman and they just sold a used P3 for $55k with 7k on it. They get used one every 1-2 weeks and he said the used Dual Motor non-Performance models can be bought for $47k used. I might shoot for the DM for just $45kish. The loan is only 3.9% which is really good.
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![]() got my 5% power bump on my non performance long range AWD. It snowed here so the road wasn't good for hard acceleration. I'll test it in the next day or two.
The long range AWD is already very fast with very hard acceleration. The Performance is literally painful. When I got a ride in one at Tesla store I wasn't ready for the stop light launch, and my neck was hurting afterward. My buddy traded in his Camaro SS 1LE for a Model 3 Performance. |
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The handling was something that surprised me, there was no understeer as it was just so flat it makes boxer engine feel like a yaht. The closest like I said was like having AYC and ACD on the Evo but without a stiff suspension. P3 didn't feel that stiff and it's able to ride like rails on turns. I may try to get a test drive of Model S P90D and see how that compares with P3. |
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![]() I just took delivery last week of used Model 3 LRDM with 10k mi on it with 19" wheels for $47k including the FSD. I know a lot of folks said the FSD is not worth it but I figure it may come in handy in my 50mi round trip commute later on. There was another used one for $43k without the FSD. So I figured adding $4k with FSD is not a bad deal.
So far I can't think of any reason to go for the Performance Model. The performance, handling, and ride felt just like it without the extra $10k bump. The car is so fast I can't think of needing anymore performance as is. On the open highway it can go from 50-90 like in under 2 secs, the handling is amazing. If you make lane changes at over 80mph+ the car is perfectly flat and no body roll/. If anyone is shopping for a STI, don't bother with it. You can have a Model 3 that has no turbo lag, no body roll, no constant gas fill ups, and from what I read of other owners, hardly any car maintenance to perform. |
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![]() I'm very happy with my long range AWD non performance, but you do notice the additional low end torque on the performance model. The non performance blows the STi away though, I agree, and you don't feel the weight too much due to the low center of gravity. It weighs as much as my challenger but feels completely different partly because it doesn't have a big V8 boat anchor under the hood.
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![]() Hacker Uncovers A Big List Of Potential Model 3 Upgrades. Including A Larger Battery @ Top Speed
Sidd Dhimaan These hacks show a lot of potential upgrades that will make the Model 3 an absolutely drool-worthy car! by , on December 24, 2019, 08:30 Tesla is generally known to be tight-lipped about news and information about its products. Take the Cybertruck, for instance. Until the date of the unveil, no one had seen it, no were any sketches or other relevant information leaked aside from Elon Musk’s cryptic logo. But, this time, Tesla couldn’t keep things to itself. Tesla somehow leaked some codes in the recent software upgrade on the Model 3. A Tesla hacker who goes by the name “Green”, has cracked the code and come up with some interesting data, including a 100 kWh battery pack in the near future! Hacker Uncovers a Big List of Potential Model 3 Upgrades. Including a Larger Battery Exterior - image 801510 While Tesla manages to keep things away from the paparazzi and the public, they can’t do much when it comes to hackers. Some hackers manage to get root access to Tesla’s software and reveal the features lined up for the near future much in advance. “Green” has been leaking Tesla’s upgrades for quite some time, but was not very active over the last year as he was focusing on visualizations of what the Tesla Autopilot can see. In this case, he noticed that Tesla is using a different gateway and that made it hard to decipher the configurations. Green tweeted, “When Model 3 was introduced it sported a very different "gateway" computer (this is where the car config is stored), instead of old style text file it is now a set of opaque binary registers with values so it was sort of hard to know what meant what." "It was curious that MCU2 reused the oldstyle gateway with a text file config. (internally it was called MCU-transitionary, so clearly it’s just a transition to something better, but I digress)." He was right. Tesla is indeed looking to bring about many changes in the Tesla Model 3 soon. Tesla Will Switch to its Own Tire Pressure Sensors One of the changes includes Tesla’s big step of shifting to its own BLE sensors from traditional Continental TPMS sensors that it has been using. As it turns out, Tesla has even applied with the FCC for the new device. Green’s tweet reads, "For example here’s an addition from April that said that Tesla is planning to do away with Conti TPMS sensors and replace them with their own BLE ones (and save money)? And sure enough this month there was FCC application confirming it,” The Tesla Model 3 Could Recieve 20-Inch Dark Staggered Wheels He also found codes about new wheels for the Model 3. Now, if you remember correctly, Tesla had initially showcased three different wheel designs, out of which two made it to the production, and the hottest looking one didn’t. According to Electrek, the patent applications show that the wheels were designed by Joonas Vartola, a car designer who left Tesla in 2016 to become an independent designer in Finland. After being asked if there’s any update on this the third design, Elon Musk tweeted saying “Will do it later this year. Too much on plate right now. Will be available as an upgrade from service.” Apparently, Tesla abandoned this design in favor of the other two, but it will make a comeback as an optional upgrade. So, it could be those wheels that are making a comeback. Tesla Model 3 Aerodynamic Updates? With improved airflow, the Model 3 could become an even better performer. The function of the air intake system is to allow air to reach the powertrain. It helps keep the batteries cool, thus increasing their life in the long run. It also helps achieve better power and range efficiency. The next upgrade on the Model 3 could come with a better airflow system and aerodynamic updates. PET - It Means the Tesla Model 3 May Be Offered With Some Kind of Laminated Roof The Model 3 could come with some sort of laminated roof. This could come in from the 2021 model year. There have been instances in the past wherein sunroofs have exploded suddenly with no apparent cause. According to a Consumer’s Report, it investigated at least 859 accounts from the NHTSA database. So, this is a big hazard and Tesla wants no part of it. Making use of laminated glass is a simple fix that reduces that danger. The Code Shows a 100-kWh Battery Might Be Available in the Model 3 Soon Now where it gets interesting is with the actual batetery packs. the 100kWh pack has survived the great "non-model3 stuff purge" mid year so there's a fair chance this is actually upcoming and not some spillover. pic.twitter.com/gliPuJhrP7 — green (@greentheonly) December 20, 2019 Green also found codes about a battery upgrade. Currently, the Model 3’s biggest battery is a 75 kWh pack. But, this could soon be trumped by a 100 kWh pack! It doesn’t seem plausible, but he tweeted, “Now where it gets interesting is with the actual battery packs. the 100kWh pack has survived the great "non-model 3 stuff purge" mid-year so there’s a fair chance this is actually upcoming and not some spillover.” However, I’m still not convinced that Tesla will bring in such a big battery pack for the Model 3. It will send the prices close to the other products and may not even sell in huge numbers. Tesla Model 3 With Ludicrous Model? Another interesting set is performance config types. Baseplus_awd is what is speculated to be theboost, but look at the other options. Ludi mode survived the great model S purge too so there must be a reason for it? It's also all changeable on the fly. pic.twitter.com/1UXAtWzWJ4 — green (@greentheonly) December 20, 2019 The final de-code was about the performance. Green found a reference of the Ludicrous Mode for the Model 3. Musk has promised this in the past, but never got around to it. Musk has announced that it is done with new launches for the near future and will focus on technology for now. So, I think we can expect this to happen quite soon. Or, Musk could also wait for the right time and then launch this feature. Too many uncertainties, but the point is a Ludicrous mode looks very likely to happen. Final Thoughts Hacker Uncovers a Big List of Potential Model 3 Upgrades. Including a Larger Battery Exterior - image 801512 The Tesla Model 3 is the most popular product in the company’s lineup currently. So, it is inevitable that the car receives a lot of upgrades every now and then. The Model 3 Performance recently received an over-the-air update that enhanced the performance by five-percent. Many owners checked this out and all of them felt the increase in their 0-60 mph sprints. The company’s earlier 3.2 seconds claim was squashed by this update as owners were able to breach the three-second barrier. The Model 3 Performance comes with two motors, one attached to each axle, and boasts a power-to-weight ratio of 191 W/kg. With all the codes decoded, the Model 3 could become an even more exciting vehicle to drive. Which hack surprised you the most? Share your thoughts with us in the comments section below. From ELECTREC https://ww.electrek.co/2019/12/21/te...udicrous-mode/ Tesla leaks code hinting at Model 3 100 kWh battery pack, Ludicrous mode, and more - Electrek Tesla leaked some code in recent software updates hinting at a possible Model 3 with a 100 kWh battery pack, Ludicrous mode, and more. Some hackers have root access to Tesla’s software in their vehicles, and they have often revealed features ahead of time. A Tesla hacker known as Green has done it several times, but he slowed down his leaks over the last year, focusing on cool visualizations of what the Tesla Autopilot can see. For the end of the year, he is back at it and released a ton of interesting information that he found in recent Tesla software updates. There are some relatively small but interesting changes, like Tesla moving away from traditional TPMS sensors in favor of their own BLE sensors: For example here's an addition from April that said that Tesla is planning to do away with Conti TPMS sensors and replace them with their own BLE ones (and save money)? And sure enough this month there was FCC application confirming it https://t.co/5yur4WOJKg pic.twitter.com/J6edXXRq1U This code leak appears likely to turn out to be correct since as Green pointed out, Tesla has filed an application with the FCC for the new device. Green also found some hints of new wheels coming from Model 3: Or the existing wheel types with some upcoming one that there's no picture of yet? pic.twitter.com/cTLBaHqhYG Tesla recently launched the new Gemini wheels for Model 3, and it wouldn’t be the first time that Tesla wheels first leak through Tesla’s software. We have also recently seen on Model Y prototypes wheels first unveiled on the Model 3 prototypes but that never made it to market: It might be one of those new wheels Green is seeing in the code of Tesla’s latest software updates. Now to the bigger stuff — much bigger, but also less likely to happen. Green found a reference to a 100 kWh battery pack for the Model 3, which would be a massive increase over the current biggest Model 3 pack (75 kWh): Now where it gets interesting is with the actual batetery packs. the 100kWh pack has survived the great "non-model3 stuff purge" mid year so there's a fair chance this is actually upcoming and not some spillover. pic.twitter.com/gliPuJhrP7 The hacker also found a reference to Ludicrous Mode for the Model 3, which is something CEO Elon Musk has promised in the past, but Tesla never released it for the Model 3 Performance: Another interesting set is performance config types. Baseplus_awd is what is speculated to be theboost, but look at the other options. Ludi mode survived the great model S purge too so there must be a reason for it? It's also all changeable on the fly. pic.twitter.com/1UXAtWzWJ4 To be clear, Green himself warns that it’s still all speculation at this point: Tesla moves in unknown ways and none of that may come to life. While it’s a good sign that it’s in the software, Tesla has sometimes included things in updates that never made it to the wider fleet. Electrek’s Take As a Model 3 Performance owner, I’d love to finally see a power upgrade resulting in a Ludicrous mode, but I also kind of think that if it was going to happen, it would already have. I’ll believe it when I see it. As for the 100 kWh battery pack, that would be a massive surprise, and also, not really necessary. What would Tesla do with a 100 kWh battery pack? A $60,000 Model 3 vehicle with 400 miles? I am not exactly sure how many people actually want that. 300 miles of range is plenty for most people. Don’t get me wrong, I am not against it, but it would be very surprising to me. The good news is that it would also likely indicate an energy density improvement to enable such an energy capacity in the Model 3 form factor. Maybe with a new Tesla-made battery cell? |
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![]() Boy you would think a loaner would have been provided. New car with 5K on odometer. Not just the manufacturer but who ever sold it to him . When my brand spanking new 04 STI failed less than 1k think it was week 2, they had a loaner provided Instantly and they didn't even sell the car to me. Brand Spanking New Impreza, they pulled sticker and plastic off in front me..
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![]() Cost cutting unfortunately
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![]() interesting. I'm assuming the huge increase in sales have overwhelmed the service infrastructure. It would be advantageous to open-source the diagnosis and repair services, but parts supplies are going to be constrained until they aren't.
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![]() Well it's summer 03 everyone Here was posting this first 04 STI available, I think it might have even been posted on EBay Motors from The dealer. No one was buying it, it sat for a while people here where like holy crap why isn't that selling. It was located in Upstate New York. I get back to the States after three years in Afghanistan with Special Activity Division, people who even heard of it think it is part service it's not. Anyway, I knew I had only short period of time before I would have to leave again. Jump in a piece **** Chevy Prizm it's really a Toyota Corolla. Go to the dealer, paid cash for STI, I got 2500 off the sticker 500 for the prizm. Drive it back to PA, stop half way, go to restart, the DCcD would flash go into lock mode Restart car, itwould be ok , I figured it was something stupid, I didn't know much about it at that point. Get back home over next couple days did it more and more.I Look it up in the manual sure enough it was there. It was going into DCCD failure. By the time I found it in the manual it was really bad. it was going into full lock, so when turning the wheels it was binding up bad. Call closet dealer, drop it off, They are telling me its ok , I said drive it for a couple miles and look on page .?? It's going into DCCD failure. After a day they said they finally got same result. After 2 weeks , car totally turn apart, Tranmission sent to New Jersey, SOA headquarters for a show and tell session, that I found out on my own. I was pissed they should have told me they where doing that. A wire Coil or something that was a manufacturing problem was resolved/fixed put back together. It was still screwed up. After another a month,(I'm back in Afghanistan) they finally find out the the whole wiring harness had to be replaced,it was shorting out. There wasn't one available in the states. Then SOA said a 2003 Forester wiring harness would work, So they get it all back together I have someone pick it up. They sign drop off loaner get keys go out to the car pull across street to get gas, he looks the whole front fender was squashed bad, guess the mechanic leaned on it while working squished it , it's alum. .. I was pissed, They fixed it by using No paint body thingy, they pop it out, without doing body work, it's incredible couldn't tell. The whole experience was night mare, took the new car STI fun out of it, plus I didn't get to enjoy it because the had to leave while they fixing it for two months . Never buy a new model when they come out Waite a good year
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![]() On the flip side, I've never had a problem with first model year cars I've owned.
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