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Old 04-06-2023, 10:10 AM   #9801
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https://www.eatthis.com/best-fast-food-burgers-chefs/

"Executive Chef Nick Dixon of Capo Restaurant in Boston raves about the classic all-beef, Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese. "I don't know what it is but it's the greatest sandwich in the world!" he says. "I don't even like to get any sides with it because the burger is absolutely perfect just the way it is. It always comes out so consistent and perfectly seasoned. I can always count on this sandwich, it never lets me down," says Dixon. We'd still say if it's been a tough day that you should splurge for those fries!"




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You clearly can't read well. I said Big Mac, but this is a double quarter pounder, so I say good day.
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Old 04-06-2023, 10:34 AM   #9802
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You clearly can't read well. I said Big Mac, but this is a double quarter pounder, so I say good day.
Good day to you too sir.

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Old 04-06-2023, 12:08 PM   #9803
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Nowhere in that article is it claimed to be great!

To quote from the article "Gourmands and chefs may quibble, but at the end of the day, nothing can beat the Big Mac on three crucial points: It's cheap, it's consistent, and it's downright good."

Last word in that quote "Good", not great. Don't care that people eat millions daily or whatever. The WRX is good, not great, that is my point.

If you think it is great, than your definition is broken. It's not even great for it's price point, it's a Big Mac. Good and that's all it will ever be, unless Subaru decides to up it's game.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:18 PM   #9804
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it may be. Fact is that it is a vast improvement to the VA and it dominates this segment in terms of sales. It is a true and proven legendary platform. Articles are spot on. Cheers!
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:21 PM   #9805
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it may be. Fact is that it is a vast improvement to your VA and it dominates this segment in terms of sales. It is a true and proven legendary platform. Articles are spot on. Cheers!
LOLOLOLOL.... so his opinion is wrong.. but yours is right?

Maybe you should look up opinion. In a world where just about every performance car is selling for sticker or above, the WRX has cash bribes on the hood to move them.

They are the ugly big mac of cars.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:42 PM   #9807
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as wrong as it may be. Fact is that it is a vast improvement to the VA and it dominates this segment in terms of sales. It is a true and proven legendary platform. Articles are spot on. Cheers!
Your burger articles are not spot on, one was a Double Quarter Pounder and the next one was actually on a Big Mac, but proved my point it is not great, but good.

Your advocation for the WRX being great was proven false, by these articles that you were trying to use to justify unending affirmation for the VB WRX.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:58 PM   #9808
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The power drops off well before then and you just "have" to shift. You wanna go faster? You're shifting "long" before 6100. The course that was laid out for us we never were able to get higher than 3rd. I've felt that "need" to shift even away from the track. I didn't hit redline on any of my "fast" cars unless I was drag racing. This isn't a drag race car.
Was it an auto-x? If you're on a track, you would be to the floor in every gear, shifting at redline, unless it was a really tight course. No long straights?
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Old 04-06-2023, 01:10 PM   #9809
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Old 04-06-2023, 01:26 PM   #9810
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Was it an auto-x? If you're on a track, you would be to the floor in every gear, shifting at redline, unless it was a really tight course. No long straights?
I didn't even bother commenting on this. I don't know what kind of track events Justy is going to...
I routinely redline all my cars in at least 1st and 2nd, e-v-e-r-y single day and that's just going to work .
I won't even mention motorcycles; I had a Ninja 250 that you just had to rev to 16K just to reach 15 MPH
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Old 04-06-2023, 01:29 PM   #9811
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I'm not talking about everybody agreeing with each other, just people being nicer goes a long way. Part in parcel it's the platform itself. Seems like the WRX community as a whole is full of a bunch of knuckleheads. Been part of other enthusiast car communities, and never have I experienced such trash.

Let's be honest, forums are pretty much outdated anyways, especially this one. I wonder when's the last time they updated the UI..... I'm guessing it's been about 15 years.
I've been in the community since 2004. It was originally college-age+ guys, mostly engineers, or young-dads, looking for an everyday car that was fun. Plus, Gran Turismo added to the allure. I was on ClubWRX.net and NASIOC. NASIOC (Nazi-oc) was always less friendly, and I would go to local car meets all the time with my "Flat4" crew on CWRX. It was a family feel.

Then, as the WRX got cheaper (used cars) the demographics shifted younger, we started to gain the California flat-brim, Stance (slammed cars with lots of negative camber), "illest" stickered guys. Then we had the vap crowd. Today, with forums dwindling (FB is terrible for car groups, FYI), it seems to be mostly older guys (I'm 38) who are holding onto the old days (myself included). You have a mix of OG nice guys (chanomatik), OG mean people (I won't name them) and new trolls. There needs to be healthy debate, and listening, but that's tough when everyone is behind a keyboard.

Overall, we are nice and helpful. Unfortunately, you are in the "vent thread." So don't expect much.

I helped to create the 2.4T subforum, and hopefully that will flourish and offer a productive space for VB owners. Please create threads and refer others to join NASIOC.

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Old 04-06-2023, 01:49 PM   #9812
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Goldstein is good. If I ever need warranty work done, I go to them. And yeah, the annoying thing about quirk works was that they installed the front license plate bracket without asking me.
The cars all come with two holes (Japanese plates) and the dealer would have to manually drill new holes for a USA plate. So, if it's just the two small holes, that's OEM from the factory and there are little dimple inserts you can buy (or plates too).

EDIT: I caught up with the thread, and you are well aware of this from the VA.
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Old 04-06-2023, 07:21 PM   #9813
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It appears manual transmissions are on the upswing.https://jalopnik.com/manual-transmis...ate-1850184123
That is a very misleading article. Doesn't break down what kind of cars these are. It would only matter if they were regular family cars. Manuals in /performance/sports cars will be around for a while longer. This just tells me that those types of cars had a falling off and now a small resurgence.

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Was it an auto-x? If you're on a track, you would be to the floor in every gear, shifting at redline, unless it was a really tight course. No long straights?
Utah Motorsports Campus. They only used a smaller section of it with several turns to highlight the handling mostly. I did try redline on the first couple turns. Was just slower after the power tapered off. Why would I continue in the rpms if the power was "gone"?
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Old 04-06-2023, 07:30 PM   #9814
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That is a very misleading article. Doesn't break down what kind of cars these are. It would only matter if they were regular family cars. Manuals in /performance/sports cars will be around for a while longer. This just tells me that those types of cars had a falling off and now a small resurgence.



Utah Motorsports Campus. They only used a smaller section of it with several turns to highlight the handling mostly. I did try redline on the first couple turns. Was just slower after the power tapered off. Why would I continue in the rpms if the power was "gone"?
Depends on the situation. Higher RPMs might be beneficial for added stopping power before a bend or to set up a section where you are off throttle, lowering RPMs, but don’t want to be in a higher gear (very low RPM) so you have torque to drive out.

These cars run out of steam around 5,500 so a second later you are at redline.

You would redline most gears on track, especially when testing.
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Old 04-06-2023, 07:56 PM   #9815
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Was it an auto-x? If you're on a track, you would be to the floor in every gear, shifting at redline, unless it was a really tight course. No long straights?
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Depends on the situation. Higher RPMs might be beneficial for added stopping power before a bend or to set up a section where you are off throttle, lowering RPMs, but don’t want to be in a higher gear (very low RPM) so you have torque to drive out.

These cars run out of steam around 5,500 so a second later you are at redline.

You would redline most gears on track, especially when testing.

I'm(personally) not typically looking at the tachometer when I'm driving like that. I'm feeling everything. And I was shifting once I felt power waning off. I did look down a couple times during this to see the redline and figure why people were worried about it. All I had was bewilderment about it. It was doing fine and I was certainly not going to gain any significant speed in that "second" you mention.
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:07 PM   #9816
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[...]These cars run out of steam around 5,500 so a second later you are at redline. [...]
I just plugged in gear ratios, final drive and tire size into a calculator.
Shifting at redline in 1st drops RPM back down to 3500 RPM into 2nd.
Things get better from 2nd to 6th but, in my mind, there's no question, that 1st to 2nd shift needs to happen at redline to keep the engine on boil...on my way to work
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Old 04-07-2023, 09:12 AM   #9817
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I'm(personally) not typically looking at the tachometer when I'm driving like that. I'm feeling everything. And I was shifting once I felt power waning off. I did look down a couple times during this to see the redline and figure why people were worried about it. All I had was bewilderment about it. It was doing fine and I was certainly not going to gain any significant speed in that "second" you mention.
I realize that you can shift by ear, but in a performance setting you need to look or be acutely aware. Powerband is important as is staying in gear when a shift will put you outside the band. Usually you try to not shift if you can avoid it. Shift lights exist for a reason. You were out to have fun, not to be competitive.

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Old 04-07-2023, 10:44 AM   #9819
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McDonald's sells a lot of Big Mac's, but that does not mean it is a great burger.
this is not the accurate statement. if there is nothing by which we may compare the big mac, it is a great burger.

however, if you try to tell me that the Big Mac is better than even a Whataburger hamburger (or In-N-Out if you don't have access to a Whataburger) specifically because of the amount sold, I gotta call BS.

the Big Mac is cheaper and easier to access than either of those two options, but better? nope, no one can convince me that McDonalds hamburger is better than Whataburger, or In-N-Out.

and just to be clear, the WRX is the Big Mac, the GR Corolla can be the Whataburger, and the CTR can be the In-N-Out burger, and maybe the Golf R is Red Robin.

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if McDonalds revamps their special sauce it may be better than the previous version of the special sauce, and in turn the Big Mac may be a better hamburger than it used to be, but it still isn't as good as other lower volume fast food options that add just a little bit more care into the creation of their burger, at a higher cost.
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Old 04-07-2023, 12:41 PM   #9820
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Have not been around much, I think the new WRX looks worse in person than even in pictures, but is there any rumor of a refresh? In the Northeast dealers are offering discounts and there seems to be lots of inventory. One dealer near me is offering $4K+ off MSRP on the WRX but no discount on other Subaru's like the BRZ or even Impreza. Crazy. I have to think Subaru will need to do something.
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Old 04-07-2023, 12:47 PM   #9821
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You've been missed. To catch you up on things, according to the non-haters the new WRX isn't ugly, doesn't need to change anything, and Subaru has always offered discounts on the WRX and dealers have always had excess supply when production numbers are level.

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You've been missed. To catch you up on things, according to the non-haters the new WRX isn't ugly, doesn't need to change anything, and Subaru has always offered discounts on the WRX and dealers have always had excess supply when production numbers are level.

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1) The WRX is ugly (some angles are good).
2) It does need to change some things.
3) They have always offered discounts. We used to make fun of anyone paying over invoice.
4) They have always had cars on lots. All 3 of my red WRX were off the lot (rare color, low production). My STI was custom ordered.
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Apologies, I was legitimately combining two conversations so as to cut them off at the head before they resurfaced. I wasn't intending to have your conversation of dealership lots and pricing come across as sarcasm.

I paid MSRP for my 2013 BRZ and 2011 WRX Limited because I chose to be an early adopter of both. Otherwise everyone after me got Invoice or close to it. My current Impreza was Invoice, so at this point no one should settle for MSRP.

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Old 04-07-2023, 01:55 PM   #9824
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I disagree on inventory and discounts. There is little to no competition right now where I live within a 75-100 mile radius (which in central New England encompasses about 4 states).

For example looking at Autotrader I see:
- 13 Elantra N's for sale and most of those are in-transit and many of those I guarantee will be marked up.
- 9 Honda Civic SI's. Same as above. You will have to order and wait and likely pay markup. You are definitely not getting any type of steep discount.
- 8 GTI's. Same as above. Good luck finding one for MSRP or less and be prepared to wait a long time for the exact spec you want.

200 new WRX's for sale. Many on lots with discounts. And you could also argue that Subaru also offered big discounts on Impreza hatchbacks, Crosstreks, BRZ etc in the past. Almost everything I am seeing is MSRP and definitely not $4500K off MSRP like I finding on the new WRX.

It tells me two things. One, dealers are having problems moving these at MSRP. With the competition having little to no inventory, Subaru should be selling every one of these cars at MSRP or higher.

You can't compare this to pre 2020. The market has completely changed with even less competition. For an AWD sports sedan there is nothing near the price range, Subaru literally has the market to themself.

It has to be the styling.
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