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Old 01-04-2020, 09:35 PM   #126
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what does it run?
I never took it to the track. People report high 12's to low 13's @ 105-107 mph and 300-320 WHP. AP was 600 bucks, tune was 150, car was 28K WRX Premium HK.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:38 PM   #127
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Why are you so mad that a E30 OTS Stage 2 WRX was head to head with a stage 1 RS3 ?
a tuned rs3 should run in the 10's or very low 11's at worst. i dont believe for a second that thats a tuned rs3.

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Old 01-04-2020, 09:42 PM   #128
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WRX with a DP and FF is an absolute beast.
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That was a tuned RS3, at least according to the title (most likely something like APR stg 1 ?)...

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Old 01-04-2020, 09:45 PM   #130
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WRX with a DP and FF is an absolute beast.
my car is quicker and im on the stock downpipe and no flex fuel.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:46 PM   #131
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That was a APR stage 1 RS3 and BTW the blow the motors left and right after they switched to the aluminum block, specially on E85...A 25K TD1 mistake.
if that was a tuned rs3, he must have been shifting it at like 3,500 rpm.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:47 PM   #132
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my car is quicker and im on the stock downpipe and no flex fuel.
I spent about 12 grand less what a Golf R would cost me and my car is quicker than a stock R and it handles better, what is your point.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:48 PM   #133
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Gti is fwd and has a hard time to not spin the tires. If you give it a lot of pedal from a stop or a crawl the tires just spin and try to grip that is the reason the wrx cvt had the same times despite being heavier.
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if that was a tuned rs3, he must have been shifting it at like 3,500 rpm.
They are DSG only.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:50 PM   #135
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I spent about 12 grand what a Golf R would cost me and my car is quicker than a stock R and it handles better, what is your point.
i never said the golf r is the cheapest way to go fast. a mullet mobile is. a wrx is a good value if you keep it low on options and dont mind less refinement. i wanted something quieter, nicer, and better at freeway speeds and i was willing to pay for it. a golf r is the perfect car for me, its not the best choice for everyone.
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Gti is fwd and has a hard time to not spin the tires. If you give it a lot of pedal from a stop or a crawl the tires just spin and try to grip that is the reason the wrx cvt had the same times despite being heavier.
That is the point.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:58 PM   #137
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i never said the golf r is the cheapest way to go fast. a mullet mobile is. a wrx is a good value if you keep it low on options and dont mind less refinement. i wanted something quieter, nicer, and better at freeway speeds and i was willing to pay for it. a golf r is the perfect car for me, its not the best choice for everyone.
DSG R is tits, just not my cup of tea. I am just trying to give some credit to the WRX where it is due. They can be really quick too for much less.
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:02 PM   #138
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That is the point.
Yep and I mean there are pros and cons. Most people say the gti is more fun to drive over the R because it’s lighter despite the traction issue and it also doesn’t cost 42,000 for a golf.

You have to look at all aspects besides 0-60 when making a decision on which car to buy though. Gas mpg, daily driver comfort (interior, ride quality), transmission options (auto, manual) etc.

I’ll say this though, I would probably buy a wrx over a gti if it had a good auto option.
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:26 PM   #139
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Yep and I mean there are pros and cons. Most people say the gti is more fun to drive over the R because it’s lighter despite the traction issue and it also doesn’t cost 42,000 for a golf.

You have to look at all aspects besides 0-60 when making a decision on which car to buy though. Gas mpg, daily driver comfort (interior, ride quality), transmission options (auto, manual) etc.

I’ll say this though, I would probably buy a wrx over a gti if it had a good auto option.
GTI is a great car, much better and comfortable daily driver than something like the current WRX. I had few of them myself. I miss the hatchback utility and the light curb weight but I don't miss the FWD lack of traction and I am not a fan of any automatics, including the DSG. Manuals in them are so, so at best. Very sloppy.
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my car is quicker and im on the stock downpipe and no flex fuel.
Any time slips ? E30 is no flex fuel, no kit required. No different than much higher than 93 octane exaggerated dyno numbers APR posts.
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:45 PM   #141
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Any time slips ? E30 is no flex fuel, no kit required. No different than much higher than 93 octane exaggerated dyno numbers APR posts.
i just use my dragy, its very accurate. i hate the drag strip with a passion, pile of slack jawed yokels and rubes. i run straight e10 93 or 91. while e30 isnt flex fuel, its certainly not "pump gas".
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FWD will always trap higher. GTI makes about 220 WHP and DSG is much quicker than CVT. A CVT WRX is close to 3,500 lbs too.
Don't really care about the comparison. You're obsessed with comparing these cars. If you're not impressed with the GTI that's fine. Camry and Accord, both drag racing FWD cars don't even hit 100 mph.
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Old 01-05-2020, 06:31 AM   #143
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Don't really care about the comparison. You're obsessed with comparing these cars. If you're not impressed with the GTI that's fine. Camry and Accord, both drag racing FWD cars don't even hit 100 mph.
Meh, I guess I just got bored and grumpy since my plans for the weekend got canceled last minute. I also got annoyed at the constant Subaru bashing going on recently on these forums. n2oiroc, those are great numbers. Sorry for being a douche in this thread. Cheers!

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Old 01-05-2020, 04:22 PM   #144
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I think opposite. Pretty damn sad it can't outrun a "piece of trash" CVT that is over 300 lbs heavier .

BTW a 6 speed WRX trapped @ 102...Golf R performance for the price of a GTI.
Did Subaru ever fix that cooling problem with the CVT that put them into limp home mode after three laps on the track?

I mean, if 0-60 was the only measure of a car, the WRX would win.

Fortunately, I'm no longer 19 years old and couldn't give a **** less which car is marginally quicker in a straight line. If I was concerned with that, I wouldn't own either car.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:34 AM   #145
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The highly anticipated, eighth-generation Volkswagen Golf GTI will be revealed at Geneva motor show in March, the car maker has confirmed.

Volkswagen will have a grand total of four hot Golf models in dealers before the end of 2020 - with the R going on sale a few months after the GTI, diesel GTD and plug-in hybrid GTE.

Following the reveal of the GTI and GTD at Geneva motor show, the R version will be shown in July at the Goodwood Festival of Speed.

The transformation from regular Golf to GTI is likely to be as subtly handled as previous variants. It will include the usual dual-exit tailpipes, red brake calipers, chunky air intakes and a bodykit extending around the lower portion of the car.

In a reversal of original plans, Wolfsburg has decided not to make a more radical switch to hybrid power. Instead, the eighth-generation Golf GTI is set to stick with much of the hardware that has made the seventh-generation model such a success, both critically and commercially.

End-of-the-line seventh-generation Golf GTI is fast, precise and assured on track, but hasn’t got the attitude to usurp the hot hatch class’s most exciting front-drivers.

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That means an updated version of the Audi-developed EA888 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine used in the existing Mk7 Golf GTI. Again, like the current car, it will be offered with two power outputs: a standard output of around 242bhp and a more powerful 287bhp model, which will replace the MK7 Performance version.

Although it was previously thought that the latter variant would wear the TCR badge, VW's decision to leave the racing series as part of its plans to end all combustion-engined motorsport means it will go by the Clubsport name instead.

An increase in torque beyond the 258lb ft and 273lb ft of today’s two versions of the GTI is claimed to establish new levels of performance. In the case of the higher-spec model, it is said the 0-62mph time will be less than 6.0sec and the top speed 155mph. Gearbox choices will include carry-over versions of today’s six-speed manual and seven-speed dual-clutch items.

As recently as late 2018, VW had planned to switch the Golf GTI to mild-hybrid power as the performance flagship of a new range of IQ-badged petrol-electric mild-hybrid models.

That system is also based around the EA888 engine. However, it will not be used on the Golf GTI, under the instruction of VW Group chairman Herbert Diess, who reversed the decision of his predecessor Matthias Müller.

The transversely mounted 2.0-litre four-cylinder powerplant will be mated to an electric motor and 48V electrical architecture. It is a setup that VW plans to mirror on the smaller 1.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine and 2.0-litre four-cylinder diesel units used on the new Mk8 Golf.

The original plan had been to improve the Golf GTI’s low-end response with electric boosting. Additionally, the technology was to bring a coasting function that idles the engine on a trailing throttle and a recuperation system that harvests kinetic energy during braking. However, VW’s about-turn on hybrid technology should lead to the new GTI having a similar character to today’s car.

2020 VW Golf GTI: chassis and underpinnings

The new Golf GTI is underpinned by a further-developed version of the existing model’s MQB platform, using a MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension in combination with adaptive damping control.

Engineers involved in the new car’s development say a lot of attention has been focused on steering accuracy. The electro-mechanical set-up of the outgoing model has been heavily reworked to provide it with added levels of feedback and a more direct ratio.

Buyers will be restricted to just one bodystyle: a five-door hatchback. The three-door will no longer be produced. Changes inside include a new digital cockpit with an optional head-up display unit and new switchgear, including a centre console featuring a stubby T-shaped gearlever for DSG-equipped versions.

The new GTI is also expected to follow the mainstream model and get a technical overhaul. Most significantly, this includes the integration of a new, larger central digital screen that will have some touch functionality, but also a new tactile control system designed to make the most common control adjustments easier.

GTE, GTD and R variants: what do we know so far

A performance increase for the GTI is necessary to ensure that it occupies a performance level above the new GTE, revealed at the same time as the standard Golf.

That model's 242bhp comes from a 1.4-litre turbo petrol engine combined with an electric motor, with a lower-powered 201bhp variant expected at a later date. It makes use of a 13kWh battery that allows up to 43 miles of zero-emissions range, and can be taken up to 87mph without any assistance from the engine. Performance figures are yet to be detailed, however, as are economy figures.

Details of the GTD are even more scarce. We know it will use a variant of the Group's well-established 2.0-litre diesel engine with mild-hybrid tech, but a power output is unconfirmed. The previous variant made 181bhp and 280lb ft of torque, with both figures likely to be improved upon. The mild hybrid system should ensure even better economy, too.

The R is again likely to use a heavily boosted EA888 motor with at least 300bhp in entry-level form, mated to all-wheel drive. Insiders suggest a range-topping R Plus is still on the cards, albeit with around 350bhp rather than the previously rumoured 400bhp.
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One of the most important debuts of the year for Volkswagen is undoubtedly the eighth generation of its quintessential hot hatch – the Golf GTI. It was confirmed last week for an official reveal at Geneva Motor Show, but we won’t have wait until early March to see the rear end design of the Grand Tourer Injection Mk8 as there’s a revealing image of the car’s derrière making the rounds on social media.

If I were a betting man, I’d say the car’s rear belongs to the hotter Golf GTI TCR rather than the regular version of the performance hatch judging by the chunky roof-mounted rear spoiler. The standard model will probably make do with a simpler setup without sending that look-at-me vibe as a way to separate the two flavors of the GTI.

The overall design is typical VW, representing a subtle evolution over the old Golf GTI in the same vein as the lesser variants of Wolfsburg’s insanely popular hatchback are remarkably similar to the Mk7. We’re not so sure about those wheels, but it goes without saying there will be plenty of designs to choose from when placing an order for the TCR and the standard sporty version.

Other noticeable traits denoting this is something a bit more special than a mainstream Golf include the dual exhaust tips flanking a tiny diffuser, while the lowered ride height indicates the car had a stiffer suspension setup. The “Golf” lettering remains hidden under a white piece of wrap underneath the VW logo in the center of the tailgate, and it looks like the traditional red “GTI” logo is missing altogether. That’s hardly a surprise since we’re probably dealing with a pre-production prototype that might not have all the final bits.

Reports say the standard Golf GTI will offer 232 horsepower from a 2.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engine equipped with mild-hybrid tech and linked to either a standard six-speed manual or an optional dual-clutch, seven-speed automatic. The spicy Golf GTI TCR will allegedly up the power ante to 286 hp and add goodies such as a limited-slip differential, bigger wheels, beefier brakes, and a lower ride height.

It remains to be seen whether the TCR will be shown alongside the normal GTI in Geneva where VW is also bringing the diesel equivalent, the GTD. Come July, the all-paw R will celebrate its world debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed with over 300 horses under the hood.

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It's not much of a reveal - there are plenty of pictures of it already out in the wild.
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