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Scooby Guru
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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#2 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 26358
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Da Burgh
Vehicle:2018 RS 400 |
![]() great-looking car, but too heavy, slow, and expensive.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:18 Highlander Yami XSR |
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![]() road looks wet though... Still not great for a hybrid awd setup... |
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#4 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: por\\and
Vehicle:V^V justrememberall capswhenuspellyomansname |
![]() Hybrid weight is dumb. Dumb dumb dumb. More dumb to come.
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#5 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 116123
Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:93 MR2 T Blue metallic |
![]() Power 400bhp
Torque 494lb ft 0-60mph 5.4sec She THICCC tho.... |
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#6 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 448186
Join Date: Jun 2016
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![]() yeah even the base car is really heavy, need a to find a way to shave off like 200 pounds to be near the germans weight, fix the transmission tuning to be more aggressive in dynamic and polestar modes
pros easy to get the awd t6 rear end to step out |
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#7 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 26358
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Da Burgh
Vehicle:2018 RS 400 |
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i test drove a 2019 S60 R-Design w/Polestar upgrade. interior was *fantastic*, but driving it was just kinda mediocre. kinda pricey, too, and was a little hesitant about a somewhat new turbo/supercharged engine's reliability. maybe when im a little older, but i still enjoy some enthusiastic driving. didn't really have a need for a 4-door, either. settled on a Q60 Red Sport. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 448186
Join Date: Jun 2016
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#9 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 26358
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Da Burgh
Vehicle:2018 RS 400 |
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bought a CPO 2018 Q60 RS AWD fully loaded with 17k miles for $42k (stickered for $65k ). they take a massive depreciation dive ![]() a "new" 2019 S60 now seems to be in the $42k-$45k range 6 months later. |
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#10 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 510542
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: US of A
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![]() Mmmm nice power, but the car doesn't look as good in those pics as it does IRL. Still, lust for a v60 polestar over the s60. Give me the wagon or give me death!
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
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#12 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 442
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: RI/SE Mass
Vehicle:17 Imp Spurt 00 S2k |
![]() Volvo is giving away up to $1M worth of cars to people that go to their website, configure a car, and save it in their contest... if any team gets a Safety during the superbowl.
I know it's dumb, but I configured a full-up T8 V60. ![]() --kC |
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#13 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 159474
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Whitinsville, MA
Vehicle:2017 Impreza Sport Lithium Red - OLDKID |
![]() I accidentally discovered their contest yesterday just because I was curious about my V60 Cross Country rental. Lol Of course I submitted an entry!
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#14 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 11349
Join Date: Oct 2001
Vehicle:2016 Mustang GT Blue |
![]() Thanks KC.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 183032
Join Date: Jun 2008
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: CT
Vehicle:RWD Camry Pull me over red |
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Papi Chulo
Moderator Member#: 53794
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Boner kill city
Vehicle:... 2017 BMW M2 2017 F-150 |
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#17 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
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![]() 2020 Volvo V60 T8 Polestar Engineered Is a Proper Boss Wagon
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/ Michael SimariCar and Driver Transforming Polestar from the performance-tuning arm of Swedish automaker Volvo into an EV-focused brand is the master plan, but we're happy to report that Polestar is still up to its old upptåg, tuning Volvos into powerhouses. The latest effort is the 2020 Volvo V60 T8 Polestar Engineered station wagon and, like its SUV-equivalent—the XC60 T8 Polestar Engineered—it's a practical package with a heavy dose of performance. Our stance on the fuel-economy and handling benefits of station wagons over SUVs is well known. We also don't need to keep harping on how much better wagons look, especially one that looks as good as the V60. Letting Polestar serve as the V60's personal trainer only deepens our love of the long-roof car. image Michael SimariCar and Driver HIGHS: Electrified acceleration punch, handsome styling inside and out, achievable claimed all-electric driving range. A wagon like the $68,295 V60 T8 is a sort of anti-SUV statement, and from the 240 Turbo Wagon to the previous-generation V60 Polestar, Volvo has a long history of building fast wagons. The new V60 is built on Volvo's scalable architecture that underpins its entire lineup. Polestar has been developing its own lineup of hybrid and EV vehicles, so while the old V60 Polestar was a gas-only affair, the new model leverages the brand's newfound expertise in electric motors, batteries, and EV engineering to make things both quicker and more efficient. Differentiation from lesser V60 models is subtle. Look closely and you'll notice gold brake calipers, unique 19-inch wheels, yellow seatbelts, and a chalk-white Polestar liftgate badge. It's enough to be handsome, but not so much as to tip anyone off as to what this Volvo wagon is packing. image Michael SimariCar and Driver Two Powertrains In the T8, Volvo's turbo- and supercharged 2.0-liter inline-four is assisted by an electric motor. Together the engine and motor combine to put out 415 horsepower and 494 lb-ft of torque. The gas-burning engine runs through an eight-speed automatic transmission and powers the front wheels. An electric motor in back sends power to the rear wheels. At the test track, this arrangement recorded a 4.4-second blast to 60 mph and a 12.9-second quarter-mile pass at 107 mph. LOWS: Not as quick as the last-generation V60 from Polestar, firm ride, uneven handoff between electric and gasoline power. Those numbers mean that the V60 T8 Polestar is quicker than some of our other favorite wagons, including our long-term Mercedes-Benz E450 wagon (4.7 seconds to 60 mph) and the Jaguar XF Sportbrake (5.0 seconds.) It's quicker than the XC60 T8 Polestar SUV, too, which delivered a 4.8-second zero-to-60-mph time and ran a 13.4-second quarter-mile at 105 mph. Despite a lack of electric propulsion and a 53-hp deficiency compared to the 2020 model, the 2017 V60 Polestar we tested was quicker still, running to 60 mph test in just 4.2 seconds. Blame the weight of the new V60 T8, which, at 4522 pounds, is a significant 556 pounds more than the 2017 version. image Michael SimariCar and Driver So, the old one is quicker. Out on the road, the new V60 will easily frighten any passengers with its acceleration, particularly with a full charge of its battery and running in the Polestar Engineered driving mode. Put your foot in it, and the instantaneous response from the electric motors provide the kind of EV-car shove that Tesla drivers enjoy. The acceleration is accompanied by a faint supercharger whine as the four-cylinder engine hits its stride and both powertrains combine forces to get the V60 moving quickly. In the Polestar Engineered driving mode, the four-banger provides a sonorous burble, but never relies on farts, crackles, or pops to announce its status as a performance vehicle. While it is quick, in more sedate driving the interplay between electric power and a gas engine with a supercharger and turbocharger leads to occasional surges and delays. While it doesn't amount to much, it's there. Polestar hasn't just added power, though. The V60's suspension has also been massaged. Pop the hood and you'll see gold nubbins protruding from the suspension towers. The nubs are how the standard Öhlins dampers are adjusted, and you have to do so manually. That kind of DIY modification is all but unheard of in production vehicles, let alone a luxurious station wagon. The setup is also offered on the XC60 T8 Polestar and even the Polestar 1. It's unlikely the average buyer will fuss with the dampers. But you know who will? Wagon-loving enthusiasts like us, wrenches in hand, ready to dial in the suspension to how we like it. image Michael SimariCar and Driver Plug-In Efficiency On the other efficiency side of the spectrum, the electric motor and 11.6-kWh battery pack allows for an EPA rating of 22 miles of purely electric driving. In our experience, that range number seems realistic; our test vehicle motored for 21 miles at 75 mph on battery power before firing up the gas engine. On our 200-mile highway-fuel economy test, the V60 T8 Polestar delivered 31 mpg overall, beating the non-hybrid V60 T6 all-wheel-drive model's 29 mpg and the XC60 Polestar's far worse 23 mpg in the same test. Volvo's plug-in hybrid system is capable of charging itself using the four-cylinder as a generator, so if you use up all your electrons blasting through mountain passes, you can switch to the charging mode and replenish the battery. image Michael SimariCar and Driver While the intention here was to make a fun-to-drive, performance-oriented car, the V60 T8 Polestar is refined enough to drive to the office every day or for puttering around on errands. In the Comfort driving mode, the uneven power delivery is subdued and the throttle response isn't as immediate. The ride is definitely firm, so firm it'll likely wake sleeping children, but if they're awake they can watch you fiddle with the dampers to improve the ride, something you can't do in the softer non-Polestar V60. Volvo and Polestar have created a performance car with the practicality of a wagon and the potential efficiency of an EV, if only for 22 miles. We are thrilled it exists. Volvo could have easily just limited the T8 Polestar treatment to the XC60, but they didn't. They also gave it to this gorgeous wagon. Specifications Specifications 2020 Volvo V60 T8 Polestar Engineered VEHICLE TYPE front-engine, mid-motor, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door wagon PRICE AS TESTED $68,940 (base price: $68,295) POWERTRAIN supercharged, turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve 2.0-liter inline-4, 328 hp, 317 lb-ft; 2 permanent-magnet synchronous AC motors, 46 and 87 hp, 111 and 177 lb-ft; combined output, 415 hp, 494 lb-ft; 11.6-kWh lithium-ion battery pack TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic, single-speed direct drive CHASSIS Suspension (F/R): control arms/multilink Brakes (F/R): 14.6-in vented, grooved disc/12.6-in vented disc Tires: Continental PremiumContact 6, 235/40R-19 96W VOL DIMENSIONS Wheelbase: 113.1 in Length: 187.4 in Width: 72.8 in Height: 56.6 in Passenger volume: 93 ft3 Cargo volume: 23 ft3 Curb weight: 4522 lb C/D TEST RESULTS Rollout, 1 ft: 0.3 sec 60 mph: 4.4 sec 100 mph: 10.9 sec 130 mph: 21.7 sec Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 107 mph Top speed (governor limited): 131 mph Braking, 70–0 mph: 152 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g C/D FUEL ECONOMY Observed: 20 MPGe 75-mph highway driving, EV/hybrid mode: 68 MPGe/31 mpg Highway range, EV/hybrid mode: 21/490 miles EPA FUEL ECONOMY Combined/city/highway: 30/28/33 mpg Combined gasoline+electricity: 69 MPGe EV range: 22 miles |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: por\\and
Vehicle:V^V justrememberall capswhenuspellyomansname |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 194216
Join Date: Nov 2008
Chapter/Region:
W. Canada
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:2020 X3M Competition |
![]() Such a bland and boring looking car. If you put a Buick emblem on it nobody would blink as the car has a lot of GM styling cues. The daytime running lights are cringeworthy bad.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 232940
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: cold
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![]() Tesla will sell 3 times as many cars in the corresponding segments than Volvo. Hybrid sportish sedans and crossovers time has passed.
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#21 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 89967
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: MA
Vehicle:2012 Impreza Sport DGM |
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I actually like the styling of the new Volvo’s. Was behind an S60 on my way to work and really liked how it looked. To each his own |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 202642
Join Date: Nov 2007
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Centennial, Colorado
Vehicle:08 Impreza,80Vette 68 Impala, 15 SantaFe |
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Member#: 73805
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#24 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 324784
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:2019 Forester Sport |
![]() good looking wagon, but that price tho...
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#25 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 379605
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Peabody, MA
Vehicle:2017 Civic Sport 2012 Outback 2.5 |
![]() We test drove a V60 Cross Country today, it was pretty disappointing. I didn't drive it but my wife said it felt slow and was boring to drive. I was shocked how small the infotainment screen is in person, and the section displaying Waze is like 3" x 5". The base stereo was meh, and the seats were ok but not amazing.
The look great inside and out, but driving and function didn't seem any better than a $30k Subaru. |
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