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10-15-2012, 12:43 PM | #126 | ||||||
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10-15-2012, 01:40 PM | #127 |
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You guys should read these posts back to yourselves.....the OT (or borderline OT) threads/posts have morphed from proper upgrades/tuning and driving techniques to CAR SEATS and CHILD SAFETY!!
Can't ANYONE have fun anymore (especially in a thread regarding a still-fairly-rare factory produced hot hatch)? Talking future transportation safety management for the results of some puds' procreative activities is NOT fun. Trust me. ...and comparing ever-increasing safety mandates to the holocaust is....man....come on I would much rather these discussions were in relevantly titled threads so I could AVOID them. Yes, I am in a Monday mood. Back on topic, has anyone seen real world mpg numbers for this? |
10-15-2012, 02:49 PM | #128 | |
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10-15-2012, 04:25 PM | #129 |
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10-15-2012, 04:27 PM | #130 |
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10-15-2012, 04:29 PM | #131 |
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10-15-2012, 05:04 PM | #132 |
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10-15-2012, 05:52 PM | #133 |
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I prefer an interior without a million buttons thanks.
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10-15-2012, 06:31 PM | #134 |
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Like, say a 2005 WRX? Why is everyone changing cars so often?
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10-15-2012, 08:04 PM | #135 |
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My parents just threw me in the back of our Gran Torino station wagon, sheetmetal floor in the back to just slide around on. The RS interior didn't really wow me over any Subaru made in the last couple years.
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10-16-2012, 12:07 AM | #136 |
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Woah... so sorry I opened that can about the car seat thing. Anyway, did you get a chance to feel the interior pieces? Odd question, but I hate hard plastic in areas that I can touch. The se model focus is alright in that respect in the front... except that the doors don't have padded plastic on the doors near the window... even my 06 wrx has that. I know even a good number of Japanese cars started going all 90's chrysler, probably because of the exchange rate and many domestic going the opposite direction. The new escape is basically a stretched and more expensive focus but it has more padded plastic than the focus. Having never seen an st in person I'd like to know the status of this. Hopefully its not like the explorer where everything feels nice in the front row but the plebes in the back get the hard stuff.
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10-16-2012, 12:13 AM | #137 |
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Also, a few more questions. Does the car have a normal turn signal stalk... as In, does it click back to center after a turn? Newer fords like the explorer have a weird stalk that is just an electronic lever. Is not huge but driving a rental drove me nuts because of that. Anything else exceptional to note?
Can't help to wonder what a good tune will do to this car. With the tech it has, I'm sure its capable of at least another 30hp. Apples to oranges but my flex eco boost gained 60whp and 1mpg with just a tune. |
10-16-2012, 06:45 AM | #138 | |
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10-16-2012, 07:29 AM | #139 |
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I have to question the more reliable aspect of it.
No way to tell if that is true buddy. I have had classic cars most of my life My current Datsun is 42 years old and still uses the OEM turn stalk. I have serious doubts that today's over gadgeted electronics will ever last for that long. Terminals wear out and replacements become obsolete as fast as they came out. Electronics are great but a mechanical system in lots of cases is far more robust. |
10-16-2012, 07:58 AM | #140 |
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I had a Volvo C30, which is the same platform as the Focus, and other than the seats in the ST it is a superior car in every way. Get the R Design with the Polestar tune and make a few tweaks here and there and it's a great little car. The interior is much cleaner and softer and the turbo 5 pot is a hoot to wind up and let 'er rip. If you really need four doors the ST is a good choice but like was said the LSD is almost necessary (with the Volvo too) and can be had if you order it from Europe. I'm not sure if the Quaife fits the ST but you should be able to get the Ford Revoknuckle set up shipped over.
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10-16-2012, 08:01 AM | #141 |
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correction, you had the chassis of LAST generation Focus, this is a whole new car.
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10-16-2012, 08:10 AM | #142 |
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10-16-2012, 08:31 AM | #143 |
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Scrappy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C1_platform
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10-16-2012, 08:59 AM | #144 |
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Gravity you do know that the 2012 focus is not built on the C1 platform
It is fords new global architecture. He new focus was not built on an 8 year old platform |
10-16-2012, 09:16 AM | #145 |
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Yeah I know, it's the new Global C. Take a look underneath the "new" Focus and see if you can tell much difference between it and the Volvo P1. As the sale was becoming imminent Ford borrowed a lot of what Volvo had done to increase safety ratings and stiffen the chassis. I know a few guys that have the Quaife LSD and a few that also have the RS suspension set up in their C's. There are more similarities than differences.
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10-17-2012, 07:08 AM | #147 |
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I'm reposting since we lost this topic now. I think this particular reviewer is pushing the cars more aggressively and actually gets to the limit of the ST whereas the autocar guys seem to be just cruising around the track and may not get to a point when the LSD would help.
Point is, with no LSD, the car has lower grip in corners. And, since in theory, putting so much pwr in a FWD platform is not a great idea, the car should have every possible tool to help with traction and driveability. Ford decided to cut cost and went with electronic instead of mechanical solution. As some of us said before, no LSD for the Focus ST is really going to kill performance and driving pleasure. Here's the EVO's comparison of Focus ST with a Vauxhall. At the end, the reviewer says: Focus ST is not as much fun/is slower and it needs a LSD. He also complains of the lack of traction mid corner.... By the way, impressive "drifts" with FWD cars in this review, with this level of skill, I'm willing to agree with anything that he says lol. |
10-17-2012, 07:44 AM | #148 |
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what i wanna know is this....
is there an available lsd unit that will fit and work with the focus st??? |
10-17-2012, 09:10 AM | #149 | |
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We all go into every test drive with baggage, expectations, and desires. These taint our opinions of the cars. Knowing the metrics used to compare against helps. for that review you pointed out, there is another between the same two cars, and the reviewer said the focus is far more fun to drive. Are you saying your youtube poster is more credible than my youtube poster? That is nonsense. Neither is better or worse. To some people magazine numbers rule the roost. Others do not care so much. Two different articles have called the focus ST the greatest all around hot hatch in the world today. No two ways about it, those are big words. But it still is not for everybody. Those who live on a track or like others to believe they do, will not buy this car because of its 'limitations' which will probably never surface ever on a daily drive at legal or even near legal speeds. I posted my review of the car as honest as I could and gave you what I was comparing it to to help in anybodies personal reference frame. I do not really care what jane or John youtube say. |
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10-17-2012, 10:21 AM | #150 |
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