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06-08-2012, 03:09 PM | #9001 | |
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06-08-2012, 03:14 PM | #9002 |
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06-08-2012, 04:03 PM | #9003 |
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Hey Armin, did I get lucky with any of the 30 pictures I put up and possibly earn a stamp?
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06-08-2012, 04:44 PM | #9004 |
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im arguing with myself on if i like the rock/water background better or just the Pacific, opinions on which one? also i think the sky came out a LITTLE bit better in this one
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06-08-2012, 04:46 PM | #9005 |
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What a difference the polarizer makes! These are much better, but the location and the crops are a little odd. They all make me ask why they cars were cut off in those specific spots.
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06-08-2012, 04:50 PM | #9006 |
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Much better than the other crops. Exposure looks good and it's nice and clear, but the location of course isn't the best. I could see something like this turn into a commercial shot with the right type of processing though.
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06-08-2012, 05:00 PM | #9007 |
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Your second shot here is definitely the stronger of the two, but the red is also a bit too strong as well. The white balance is also a little on the cooler side for my liking.
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06-08-2012, 05:03 PM | #9008 | ||
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06-08-2012, 05:12 PM | #9009 | |
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06-08-2012, 05:17 PM | #9010 |
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That style of shooting is usually going to require multiple exposures, and you'll need a program like Photoshop to layer them. As good as our DSLRs are, that's a type of dynamic range that simply isn't going to be possible right out of the box.
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06-08-2012, 05:19 PM | #9011 |
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Hard to say, I like them both. However, in this on it looks like your horizon and road don't match...they're not parallel to each other, thus getting them to match might take a bit more work. I still think you should shoot lower as well.
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06-08-2012, 05:40 PM | #9012 | |
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Multiple polarization? Are you kidding me? My wife is going to kill me. Can I run the same type of filter on top of the one i have? I'm going to try to go back to some of my other locations now that I have my filter and see if I can get better results. |
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06-08-2012, 05:44 PM | #9013 | |
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06-08-2012, 05:46 PM | #9014 |
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So this obviously can't be done in Lightroom then? I do have Ps CS5 but I never really got into it. I guess I'll have to put it on my list of things to do.
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06-08-2012, 05:50 PM | #9015 |
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Nope, you can't do multiple layers in Lightroom. You mustn't think of PS as being a cop-out to taking photos...it's a tool just like anything else, just a tool that can often be misused. I've been using Photoshop since 1996 and just like with anything, you can make a good photo great with it, but you can't make a terrible photo great. Garbage in, garbage out. With great power comes great responsibility
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06-08-2012, 06:00 PM | #9016 |
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Man, I'm a little discouraged. I thought I had a good one there. I put all the rules into place on that one. (except the background) I also think I'm at a disadvantage with the red car, it seems very tough to capture the true color. So is it possible to get a shot without glare or reflections without using Photoshop?
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06-08-2012, 06:07 PM | #9017 | |
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Red is definitely a tough color...personally for me it's the most difficult color to capture properly (along with orange). It is possible to get a shot without glare if you shoot at night, but you cannot eliminate all reflections unless you're shooting a matte painted car. Some commercial photographers I know will take as many as 10-15 exposures, all with different polarizations just to get rid of as many reflections as possible. That's going to overkill for most people, but that just shows the lengths that people will go to make everything look absolutely perfect. |
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06-08-2012, 06:14 PM | #9018 |
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Yeah I don't think I'll be going to that extreme but it's something I'll try out at some point. The video was very helpful. You have a great way of explaining things simply. My question is.... you obviously have to use a tripod for this, but you are kind of limited to how low you can go. Everyone seems to say the low angled shots are favorable so what do you suggest for angles that aren't ground level?
Oh, and my other photos where everything was cropped oddly, I was trying different compositions without using the whole car. Any advice as far as composition goes? |
06-08-2012, 06:23 PM | #9019 |
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Here's another one. I kind of like the glare on this and the way the sun is coming through. I don't like the reflection on the side of the car though.
And I kinda like this one. Last edited by INKMAN; 06-08-2012 at 06:49 PM. |
06-08-2012, 06:57 PM | #9020 | ||
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As far as composition goes, when you crop certain parts of the car off, you're usually trying to highlight something else and you've paid attention to where exactly you're cutting off the car. Here's an example: Your eyes go straight to the red tow hook, and then you've got the lower diffuser as well, then as you wrap around you get to the burn tip of the exhaust. Notice I kept the body line that touches the passenger side tail light so that you can see where the line ends. I also made sure to include enough ground so that the car's not just floating. In your cropped shots that you posted, there wasn't a clear subject that you wanted your viewer to focus on...it was almost random where you decided to cut off the rest of the car. Quote:
As for the second shot, you've got some bad lens flare right in the center of the frame, and again there isn't a clear focus point for your viewer. |
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06-08-2012, 08:39 PM | #9021 |
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Good example. I don't know if I can retain all this info while I'm taking a picture. Like I said, I do this as a hobby so some of this might be overkill for me but the advice is always great so I can develop further down the road. I have great respect for pro photographers now. I never knew how much thought went into a single picture. I give you a lot of credit man!
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06-10-2012, 06:05 PM | #9022 |
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it feels like its been some time since ive shot a car. and well, it has been and that hasnt changed. (been keeping busy with macro and landscapes, as some may know). but i did happen to come across a much older shot, that when i first processed, didnt "do it" for me. with newly learned techniques processing styles, i thought i would give an old man a revisit. i liked the way it came out, but the original wasnt the best to begin with. specially with the side of the car being in direct sunlight. EEK.
edit: for some reason, this smaller res version looks a tad oversharpened. or is that just me? |
06-11-2012, 08:24 AM | #9023 |
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Way too much contrast for my liking. It looks like you've managed to blow out the blacks and the whites.
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06-11-2012, 11:52 AM | #9024 |
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shot at a bad angle, and wrong time of day. while i know the blacks are clipped, the histo didnt tell me the whites had clipped yet. i think it just seems that way since the hella contrast and the entire side being lit up by the sun.
ill stick to taking the shot correctly over attempting to make a terrible shot work. |
06-11-2012, 12:18 PM | #9025 | |
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Overall it's a bit too contrasty for me for sure...the blacks for sure, and the whites do seem a bit blown out on the side of the car. Perhaps if the overall contrast was toned down a little, it won't seem quite as blown out. It definitely could use some experimenting. Another thing I might suggest is toning down the blue saturation a little bit, particularly on the hood/front bumper area that's in the shadow. You've also got some grass at the bottom leaking onto the side skirt...that should be an easy fix though. |
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