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Old 05-31-2006, 07:24 AM   #251
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I have ordered Torco several times from Need4SpeedPower and I have gotten my orders no problems. Hell, the first time I ordered back when it was fairly new I only ordered 1 can and he sent me 2 because he knew I would buy more. I have since ordered several cases.

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Old 05-31-2006, 01:39 PM   #252
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There was another (much longer) thread on this site, but I can't seem to find it. Here's one.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...ght=need4speed

Caveat Emptor.

I'm glad you are doing everything you can to try to wreck my friends business.

He is looking into this now, to see why it is that this one person did not receive one of the two cases he ordered.

remowgn, I can show you complaints and ripped off customers from many many suppliers, everyone in any kind of business has had some sort of issue .. at some point in time ...

I'm sure my friend will figure out how to resolve this issue. Need4Speed Power Products is a good little company, they are not out to rip people off.
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Old 05-31-2006, 01:47 PM   #253
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I agree they are a good company. I am going to be ordering another case very soon from Need4SpeedPower. I will always get my Torco from them because of his price and that I have recieved every order I have ever placed with them with no issues.

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Old 05-31-2006, 09:49 PM   #254
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I will vouch for that place. I placed an order quite a while back and about a week after I placed the order and paid for the order, the guy emailed me and said torco unleaded was back ordered and he might not have it for a couple weeks. He wanted to know if I wanted my money refunded. I chose to get a refund. He was professional about the whole deal, even when I made a smart azz comment in the email about if it would really be there in a couple weeks or if it would be a couple months.

I appreciate that kind of business. Many companies, once they have your money, they are content to let you wait several months. Anybody that has ordered aftermarket parts has heard the "it will be in if you can just wait a couple more weeks" line so many times it makes you want to vomit. It was refreshing for a company to actually be proactive and show some customer service to let the customer know the stuff they ordered might not arrive at their door in a timely manner.

Sure enough, after about 2 weeks from the point he emailed me and refunded my money, he emailed again to let me know the torco was now available if I was still interested.

For me, that shows it's a good/honest company. A company out to rip off customers wouldn't behave in this manner...
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:23 AM   #255
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Ok, they're decent, moving on. What about more torco info, experiences?
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:21 AM   #256
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i use it in every tank. pump and 100 octane. no issues yet. I buy it by the 5 gallon can.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:48 PM   #257
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i use it in every tank. pump and 100 octane. no issues yet. I buy it by the 5 gallon can.
Hey attitude,

Have you ever done a smog check?
Are you modded?
How long have you been using it?
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:02 PM   #258
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Hey attitude,

Have you ever done a smog check?
Are you modded?
How long have you been using it?
no
heavily
1 year
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:46 PM   #259
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I also buy it by the 5-gal. can, have had no problems, have a map especially for it's use (+1 degree of timing), and...
no
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:57 PM   #260
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I have ordered from Need4SpeedPower, and have only good things to say. They did not send out any sort of verification of my order, but I am used to that. The order came quickly. The wrong 5 gallon can was drop shipped (not Need4Speed's fault), and they cleared it up immediately, and I was sent the correct can very quickly. I also got to keep the wrong can free of charge

I also like the GTA.

I will order from them again, in a heartbeat!
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:04 PM   #261
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I heard from one of my friends that is on the LS1 boards that the need4speed guy took a bunch of orders for torco and other stuff, and disappeared off the face of the earth. I'd call him directly or wait to see what happens with that before placing any kind of order.

That being said, I did order torco from them before without any problems.
Gotta love the internet ... If you read remowgns post above, he stated that Need4Speed took a "bunch" of orders, and ripped everyone off. In fact, there was one person, who paid for two cases and was only drop shipped one. A supplier problem. Unfortunately, Need4Speed wasn't able to receive the customers voicemail to know that there was a problem. No email was ever sent.

On the flip side, he also said that he had ordered in the past, and didn't have a problem. Interesting.

Need4Speed Power Products does not man a phone all day, they can do email, but in order to have the cheapest pricing on the net for the product, that's the way it has to be. As for order confirmations, well, the same applies, Torco has an older internal system, that does not give individual tracking #'s to Need4Speed unless someone calls for each one of them ... again, not enough man power or funds to pay for it.

Keeping the costs down is the main goal.

You can check them out here :

http://www.need4speedpower.com/torco.html
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:30 PM   #262
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Yeah, I am OK with their process, and as I said, have only (very) good things to say about their customer service. I will be ordering again soon!
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:47 PM   #263
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Default More MMT info

Well, after a CONSIDERABLE amount of research, I have come to the conclusion that the issues associated with using MMT in gasoline are dependent on the amount that is used. The following reference sums up the findings and presents real data and pictures of what MMT will do:

http://www.cleantransportcouncil.org..._ICCT_2004.pdf

The main conclusions I have come to are:
1) Problems are dependent on the concentration of MMT in the fuel; the less used the less the problems
2) MMT WILL cause an increase in vehicle emmisions but the amount depends on a lot of factors, including #1.
3) It WILL plug your cats, but in low concentrations it won't be very much especially if you have a high flow cat. In LEV testing it plugged 20% of the cat surface over 100K miles. I would NOT use it on a stock vehicle if I plan to use that exhaust to pass smog testing.
4) You are even less prone to have issues if you use it after driving for like 10,000 miles. Apparently a "precoated" exhaust system is less prone to manganese oxide buildup (the orange stuff). I couldn't find data for this but it was stated in the above reference.
5) It appears that injector and/or valve cleaner (or something similar) should be used periodically to keep the exhaust valves clean. Leakage can occur from the buildup of manganese oxide.

Does anyone know the concentration of MMT in Torco?

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Old 06-06-2006, 10:46 PM   #264
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Nice piece of research, decaman.

Quote:
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Does anyone know the concentration of MMT in Torco?
Torco holds this close to the vest as proprietary info. ...doubt anybody here knows, but I could be surprised.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:50 AM   #265
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Has anyone ordered from need4speedpower lately?

I'm thinking about picking up a few to try soon, but they seem to have not updated their stock status for a few months.

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Old 11-22-2006, 12:47 AM   #266
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So has their been a final consensus yet? Toluene or Torco? I too am looking for a good octane booster
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:07 AM   #267
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Torco, ftw..
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:30 AM   #268
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Torco. I dynoed today and even though I ran 13-1 AFR at 11 psi from 4500-6000 rpm, I didnt knock once. Helps I am at 7.5-1 compression, but still...... I ran about 12 dyno runs back to back with not much waiting in between either, but it was pretty cool out.

I was running 1/2 can to 12 gallons of 92
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:10 AM   #269
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Have you guys thought about running E85?
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:20 AM   #270
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So has their been a final consensus yet? Toluene or Torco? I too am looking for a good octane booster
1gal of toluene is about the same as 1can of torco. IMO the leaded torco works wonders and smells awsome.

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Old 11-22-2006, 07:28 AM   #271
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after reading this whole thread I am gonna try this stuff
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:12 AM   #272
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I love it from when I bought my first little can 2 years ago... I still use it and encourage lots of people too. I've only been buying unleaded but when my car is done I'm going to ttry the leaded version.
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:48 PM   #273
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Have you guys thought about running E85?
I want to run pure E85 but my tuner believes anything over 30% is dangerous and won't touch it. Plus my injectors aren't big enough.

1 Gal of toluene to how many gallons 93?
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I want to run pure E85 but my tuner believes anything over 30% is dangerous and won't touch it. Plus my injectors aren't big enough.

1 Gal of toluene to how many gallons 93?
1 can torco to a full tank
1 gal toluene to a full tank.

They are about equal.

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Have you guys thought about running E85?
I wish I could get it.

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